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Draft:Jonn Poker (Beauty YouTuber)

Hey, can you help creating a page for an artist ? I saw there have been drafts made in the pasta but deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nerdmaniac2021 (talk • contribs) 20:50, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

That is because he is not notable, and your many previous accounts have been locked/blocked. --IWI (talk) 22:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Protected pages query

Hi Cryptic, Ajpolino has placed a very useful result of your query on WP:MED, relating to protected pages in the medicine space. Would you be able to run the same query (as in [1]) on articles corresponding to the talk pages in this category Category:WikiProject Anatomy articles? Thanks, hopefully! --Tom (LT) (talk) 09:37, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I'll do you one better. Go read Wikipedia:Request a query/Archive 1#Newly created Presbyterian articles, where I previously wrote out step-by-step instructions on how to register on Quarry and duplicate a query. This not only lets you edit it so you can change the category in the query, but lets you run it again without having to ask me - the results on Quarry don't automatically update when the wiki changes.

The only added wrinkle compared to Anna's situation is that you'll need to update the cl_to comparison near the end. It should not have "Category:" in it, and spaces should be replaced with underscores - that is, WHERE cl_to = 'WikiProject_Anatomy_articles', not WHERE cl_to = 'Category:WikiProject Anatomy articles'. —Cryptic 13:51, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

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A cookie for you!

thanks for your terrific and helpful assistance!! -Sm8900 (talk) 🚀🌍 13:59, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

thanks for help with Communal burrow

Hi. just wanted to thank you for your help with the new entry communal burrow. I never saw a bot put a flag on an entry that way before. these mirror sites are kind of bizarre, aren't they? what is the idea behind them? are they generating revenue oir spam for their owners, somehow? truly perplexed on this.

anyway, thanks so much for your help on this. by the way., I am the originator of one of our very own Wikifauna here, the WikiPrairie Dog. As you can guess , so I have an interest in this topic, as a general subject. you are welcome to join our communal burrow any time! jump-yip! lol! nice to meet you! ---Sm8900 (talk) 🚀🌍 13:59, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

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Draft talk: Syed Shahid Ali

Hello!

I hope you're doing good. I have been trying to create a page of Syed Shahid Ali which you previously deleted under the G8 criteria of Speedy Deletion. Now, I am editing the content and toning it down to make it encyclopedic.

However, I am unable to submit the draft of Syed Shahid Ali for review. Can you help me with that? Ahmed.masoom (talk) 07:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

He is a known Pakistani Businessman, a former national Polo Player who is a well-known figure in Pakistan. I am creating an article on him for the general public interest. Ahmed.masoom (talk) 07:44, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

You have to type {{subst:submit}} as it appears when you're viewing the page, not "<nowiki>{{</nowiki>[[Template:Submit|subst:submit]]<nowiki>}}</nowiki>", which is what it looks like when you're viewing source.

Also, you have to at least go through the motions of not making your draft look like a resume from the first edit, or you'll just end up blocked again. —Cryptic 17:28, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Remove the protection for the page "Dushyant Kapoor"

My client wants to create Dushyant Kapoor page. I request to kindly remove the protection and allow me to work on it so that it will fulfill Wikipedia standards and I as an Extended Confirmed User and lover of Wikipedia contribute in making wikipedia greater. I will try my best to make this page as good with solid references. Kindly approve my request. Regards, Thanks in advance Armaghan Muawiya — Preceding unsigned comment added by Armaghan Muawiyah (talk • contribs) 20:09, 9 October 2021 (UTC)

The protections of Dushyant Kapoor and Draft:Dushyant Kapoor were not made on my own initiative, but in response to community discussions at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dushyant Kapoor and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Dushyant Kapoor. I can't unilaterally reverse them absent strong evidence that they're no longer valid. Your assertion that you have "solid references" isn't sufficient - you'll have to actually provide them. I must admit that I'm not immediately seeing anything convincing in a casual google search in English; the articles I looked at have the character of press releases or other material created by the subject or his publicity team and uncritically reprinted.

Quite aside from that, your mention of "My client" is concerning, and I'll be following up with a formal warning on your talk page. Please reply to that (there) before doing anything else. —Cryptic 18:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

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Draft Talk: Glassy Tiger Life Cycle

Hii. I had been trying to an article Glassy Tiger Life Cycle. But it has been deleted under the dupication with article Parantica aglea. I want to know that can I create an article that describes the life cycle of (Parantica aglea) . Can you help me with that? Thank you. Sandew LA (talk) 12:41, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Parantica aglea already has a section about its life cycle. Why not expand that instead? —Cryptic 16:37, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2020 September 5 files

Hi Cryptic. I wasn't aware that you were working on these at User:Cryptic/sandbox. I had actually forgot about them until I actually stumbled across File:Comoros FA.png via WP:MCQ#Football Logos when File:FF Comoros (logo).png was asked about. That led me query the original deleting admin about this at User talk:Fastily#File:Comoros FA.png which resulted in Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2021 November 25#File:Comoros FA.png. I've also asked another admin about some of the other files on your list at User talk:Masem#Danish Superliga former logos, but haven't done anything further about them yet. FWIW, this wasn't a case of me getting tired of waiting for you or anyone else to do something about these files; I just completely forgot about the whole kerfuffle until trying to answer that MCQ question. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:46, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm not actually working on them - look at the timestamp there. I only got the two near the bottom of WP:Files for discussion/2020 September 14 renominated before getting distracted by the kerfuffle at Wikipedia talk:Deletion review/Log/2020 September 5, which was considerably more urgent. Have at it. —Cryptic 00:52, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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Deletion close parsing

It's not just my parser that gets thrown off by non-bolded AfD closes; Enterprisey's AfDstats chokes on it as well. I do intend to write a general library for AfD-close parsing that handles edge cases like this, but there's a fairly low rate of undeterminable closes (six this month out of a couple thousand AfDs) that I figure it is probably easier to bold the closes manually until this is set up. But if you'd like me to not do this on your closes, I can stop. jp×g 20:32, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Help me to save safe account

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Thank you

RE [2]

You did not seem irritable. You never do. I have always found you to be kind and thoughtfully helpful. Sorry about me being a little short with an inexperienced editor, who in the end proved to be completely right. -- SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:26, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Arghh. Exukvera (talk · contribs) is not a newcomer, but a 15 years 19000 edits virtually all-mainspace editing veteran. My apologies to him. Projects space wonks should bend over backwards to help content creators like him. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:31, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Naveen Jain

Hi Cryptic. Thanks for keeping an eye on Naveen Jain (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Do you think a SPI would be helpful at this point with the new set of editors there (Ferife Hendersonville 099 (talk · contribs), Tomjonnie (talk · contribs), Cecellixcd (talk · contribs)) all trying to blank information? I'm planning a COIN, minimally to make other editors aware of the sock/meatpuppet farm and their articles of interest. --Hipal (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Probably not. Even if they're from the same IP range, checkusers are unlikely to block it; and finding out whatever other accounts they've made isn't going to accomplish much. It might be more useful if - no, let's be realistic, when - they start gaming to get around semiprotection, to find stray sleepers. —Cryptic 16:16, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Something to look forward to ;^) --Hipal (talk) 16:32, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

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Tamzin RFA Comment

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Deletion of the article Rajender Singh Pahl

Hi Cryptic, I have recreated an article Rajender Singh Pahl. Earlier this article was marked promotional and advertising. I have made article neutral and encyclopedic. Also I have provided credible references from the biggest journals and newspapers. The page has been deleted by you. I therefore request you to allow me to rewrite this article and I assure you that I will follow all the wikipedia guidelines and no violations would be made from my end. I truly believe that this article will contribute to Wikipedia and the people who will be looking for it. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prasun020 (talk • contribs) 08:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

It was an advertisement, sourced to advertisements, and if you didn't bill the subject for writing it, then you've been swindled. I won't restore it; your route of appeal is Deletion review. —Cryptic 12:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of the article Passfolio

Hi Cryptic, wanted to check on Passfolio Article. It is not a paid contribution. I use the app and a friend works there and chatting about it I just updated the article. I think it's quite relevant but was not aware it was deleted previously, in fact that made me doubt about make a claim. I will appeal now in review, but, just for the record, was pretty confident (if article was not erased 2 times before) that had acceptable background comparing with others companies / articles in same category. Thanks. --Joji (talk) 01:37, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry, were you waiting on me for something? I haven't said anything because I read "I will appeal now in review" as "I'm imminently starting a deletion review, (correctly) surmising that you wouldn't restore this if I asked for that directly", so I'd planned on making a response there. —Cryptic 21:17, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi @Cryptic, I hadn't seen your answer, following this, I had a second look and I thought your point was understandable, sources seem good but 3 previous deletions, it is a blur line. Thanks. Joji (talk) 15:20, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Some bubble tea for you!

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Thankyou for your comment at ANI

Thankyou for your comment at ANI. I am glad to see some editors actually understand the situation.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:04, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

• One question, is there a way we could figure out how many articles Lugnuts has actually created?John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:21, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
  • Yes. Not only that, I can show what proportion of the articles in the categories you've been (very clearly) going through that he's created. I'll be presenting evidence at arbitration.
    That said, he probably honestly doesn't realize that one would expect to see that many articles of his nominated by someone going through the year-of-birth categories and afding without regard to who created them. I know I'd react much the same if it were my articles and I hadn't stopped to crunch the numbers. You'd do well to make an active effort to avoid articles he started, or even edited, for the time being. —Cryptic 12:47, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
    • I just realized Lugnuts has created 93,547 articles. He posts that number on his user page. I am not sure I thought it was that large.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:52, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

ANI

I am really amazed at how many people do not get the scope of articles that Lugnuts has created. I would really like it if someone could put up the total number of articles he has created.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

• After your last comment on ANI, I realized that Lugnuts on his talk page explcitly says how many articles he has created. It is 93,547.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:51, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Links in spam warnings

FYI, I and some others put links into spam warnings such as the one you commented on because it makes it simpler to connect accounts if they switch to spamming from sockpuppets later. MrOllie (talk) 20:51, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

That a six-edit account also added this (and another) link and was immediately reverted each time isn't likely to be useful. Even for cases where it might be, you'll get much, much better results by poking User:COIBot, and if that's too much, then you can still find the link from Special:Linksearch without leaving it there untouched to click on if you poison it by adding an invalid host at the start. —Cryptic 21:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

the s.url makes it effectively useless for spamming purposes which is why it's included in the warnings (and so it's still searchable by coibot and general search.) PRAXIDICAE🌈 21:11, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Oh - that's what I'm talking about at the end of my comment about poisoning the link. I'd missed that it had been done (I think because it was a different link that had been spammed today). —Cryptic 21:14, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as spam

yea, that was just a test related to ongoing issues in phab:T311744, it isn't needed now. — xaosflux ^Talk 22:59, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Ah, yes, I should've recognized it as testing for that bug. What's happening - and I'm fairly sure it's mentioned on one of the other bugs for it - is that, while the category table is correctly counting the number of categorylinks entries, there's categorylinks entries that weren't removed when their corresponding page table entries were, usually (always?) by on-wiki deletion. That's why purging doesn't help (that just forces a recount of categorylinks), and why the number in the interface is right (since it's joining page). —Cryptic 23:12, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

I missed the note about the substituted template :( Thank you for fixing that. Clovermoss (talk) 17:27, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

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Block Request

Dear Cryptic, जितेंद्र सूर्यवंशी is seem like spambot I request to you Please block this user on English Wikipedia, he already block on hiwiki.Please see this Global Information on जितेंद्र सूर्यवंशी thanks. Aviram7 (talk) 14:35, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Plainly not a bot, just self-promoting. I did consider blocking, but I don't think they're quite there yet. Besides, they haven't edited since May 1. —Cryptic 14:49, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Of Course! But He never stops self-promotion on English Wikipedia themself , You will see as they find out that their Userpage has been deleted, they will immediately freak out, then try to promote, but by then their account will be locked globally. Aviram7 (talk) 15:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

He stopped self-promoting after eight days, and hasn't edit for almost another five months. Enwiki doesn't block accounts that have been idle that long; I will if he actually comes back. —Cryptic 15:25, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

Conduct review

Looking for assistance on conduct review,content deletion, & escalation. Opensourceheart (talk) 22:43, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Context? —Cryptic 22:45, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/Ser! 18:09 edit, response messages and flagging & message between admin and user who made context edit, Citing Golden rule, biting of new user, lack of civil discourse, direct escalation without understanding. Opensourceheart (talk) 22:50, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Well, the reasoning given in their edit summary looks reasonable to me at first glance. The first step is to wait for Ser!'s response on their talk page, if any; your own comment there doesn't seem particularly aimed at improving the article. —Cryptic 23:03, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Moritz Pindorek

Hello, Cryptic,

Thank you for your correction. I don't know how I didn't see those recent edits to this draft. I look at every page and its page history before I delete a G13. But I guess we all make mistakes. I appreciate you reexamining this draft and deciding on an appropriate CSD criteria. Thanks again. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:19, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

The context was WT:CSD#RFC on clarifying G13 and what constitutes "last human edit", which you might be interested in. —Cryptic 02:22, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

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Question

Thank you for answering my question with the query you provided here. I am new to Quarry. Would you mind answering some questions I had about how you created this query or could recommend a place where I can go to ask questions about it such as a discord server perhaps?

Thanks Dleigthful (talk) 18:55, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm happy to answer specific questions, though I'm not about to teach you SQL; and it's the busiest time of year for me at work, so it may take me a while to respond. You can also try asking at mw:Talk:Quarry. —Cryptic 14:26, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

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Umm, what are these for? Special:Diff/1150974631, Special:Diff/1150974616 --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 04:30, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Fixing your obvious errors. They're not only not speedy candidates, they are so plainly not the U5s you tagged them as that I could think of no other explanation. —Cryptic 04:34, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

User:ArabInstitute/sandbox/The Arab Institute for Women can be a draft but User:Dinesh Aryanshetty is clearly a U5. --Minorax^«¦talk¦» 04:39, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

It is no such thing, and if you honestly think otherwise you should not be tagging pages for speedy deletion. It is both of the things WP:U5 specifically excludes: a (poor) attempt at a draft, and material that wouldn't be inappropriate for a userpage had it not been formatted as a draft. It's mildly promotional, but nowhere near a G11; that it's an autobiography is immaterial. —Cryptic 04:49, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

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Files with multiple versions Quarry

Greetings,

way back when I asked somewhere if there was a way to find files that have more than one file in the history, and I remember that you showed a Quarry query or something like that that listed such files. Do you still have it? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 07:18, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Do you mean this?

Note that, by design, it's still showing results as of April 2020; instructions on how to get up-to-date results are here. You'll also have to put enwiki_p in the "Enter the db name..." field. —Cryptic 12:54, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, it seems to have worked. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 17:44, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

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Python help

As a follow up to Wikipedia:Request_a_query/Archive_3#Find_all_instances_of_journal=publisher, I finally have some time to give this a shot.

First thing is "save it from raw mode" downloads some .php file. It seems to simply be the same thing as the raw text of https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=User:Cryptic/dup-publisher.py, so I assume I just need rename the extension to a .py instead of .php

Next is a more major hurdle, in that python3 -m pip install mwparserfromhell gives an error where pip is considered invalid syntax. py.exe and Idle both give me that error. StackOverflow is rather unhelpful to me, but might help elucidate things.

And that's where I'm stuck now (using python 3.11.4, in Windows). Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 02:18, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

That should be run from a command-line, not from inside python itself. If you start python with py.exe, it would be py.exe -m pip install mwparserfromhell.

Don't run py.exe directly from windows (by double-clicking on it, or windows+r py.exe); start a command-line shell with windows+r cmd.exe, then type the command into that.

If you've been running python-based bots, you might already have mwparserfromhell installed; if you can execute import mwparserfromhell from inside either idle or py.exe and not get an error (probably "ModuleNotFoundError: no module named 'mwparserfromhell'), then you can skip this. You'd still need to run python from a command-line to run the script (replacing "python3" with "py.exe" in my original instructions); I set it up to take its options from there and output to there, since I took you at your word when you said you'd be able to manage. —Cryptic 04:31, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Aight, mwparserfromhell installed. I got (I named the file dupe.py)

usage: dupe.py [-h] [-a] [-c] [-m] [-o OUTPUT] dumpfile

Not sure where to go from there. Presumable it wants a bunch of possibly optional arguments/modes I know nothing about (-h -a -c -m -o) and two locations, one for output (e.g. C:\...\output.txt), one for the dump file (C:\...\dumpfile.xml)? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 04:49, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Run it with -h (or --help) to see what the options do. —Cryptic 04:58, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Figured it, though now I'm getting some... invalid data stream weirdness (whatever that means). See the pastebin below.

https://pastebin.com/L7bUcV02

Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:07, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

It expects the dump files to still be compressed. Hang on, I'll fix it so it can handle them uncompressed. —Cryptic 05:09, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

OK, redownload the script and try again. —Cryptic 05:27, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Different error now: https://pastebin.com/WTtLpnHT

UnicodeDecodeError: 'charmap' codec can't decode byte 0x8d in position 2682: character maps to <undefined>

(Stack Overflow on this?) Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 05:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

OK, I've download (the start of) the same file you're using. It works ok on linux, but produces the same error you're getting with the windows-native python build. Investigating. —Cryptic 05:50, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Sigh, try now. —Cryptic 05:59, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Seems to be doing something. No crashes yet. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:02, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

If you're outputting to a file (or possibly even if you're not, depending on how long it takes to find a bad article), don't expect to see anything on screen for a long time, since you're using the monolithic all-of-mainspace-in-one-file dump. (Extrapolating from the partial test file I used, expect something on the order of three days' running time.) You may want to abort it early and run with the -c option, which will keep you informed of its progress. —Cryptic 06:07, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Might as well show some progress. Seems to be matching, but not outputting. I guess this'll happen at the end of the run? Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:13, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

It won't show results on-screen if you give it an output filename. If you didn't, the results should be interleaved with the progress markers. —Cryptic 06:17, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

I mean the output.txt file isn't growing. It's got over 700 matches now (15K pages read) and it's still at 0KB filesize. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 06:18, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Not surprising. Output to the file is in text mode, so it's probably being buffered. —Cryptic 06:23, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

You can see the buffer size by running

import io
print (io.DEFAULT_BUFFER_SIZE)

in another instance of py.exe. I get 8192; my test file (enwiki-20230620-pages-articles16.xml-p20460153p20570392.bz2) results in 1508 bytes from 68 matches, so doesn't write to the file until completion. When I change it to print each matching article twenty times, I saw the output file grow to 8210 bytes after the nineteenth match (so roughly 380 with real data). If, as you say, you've gotten 700 matches, the file size is still 0, and you don't have an outlandishly large DEFAULT_BUFFER_SIZE, then something's really awry. —Cryptic 06:34, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

It took a while, but the file is now growing. 1.4 M articles read, 50K matches. I might abort and do individual parameter pairings since Citation bot doesn't deal them all equally well. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 15:27, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

(I trust you're aware that that dumpfile includes all pages in mainspace, not just "articles". So you got through about a fortieth of mainspace, not a fourth.)

The -m option will say which pair of template parameters it matched for each page, like I showed in the sample output at RAQ, though it'll only show the first match. If that's not sufficient, I don't advise just commenting out parts of has_dupe_cite_params() and running the program several times; matching fewer pairs won't make it run any faster. I suppose I could add an option to list all matches on each page, or wrote to a different file for each pair. —Cryptic 17:46, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

I've commented out the pairings yup. The fastness of the matching is a concern, but really for the first run I want journal/publisher/series match because that's what the bot is good at dealing with and I would rather have a run on a few K articles instead of a few 10K articles. By the time that's dealt with, there will be another dump out. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 18:20, 16 July 2023 (UTC)