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Findians
Unfortunately, there is only one English language source I was able to find, almost everything is in Finnish, however they are provided by YLE, which is Finnish government funded, which is a very reliable source, also there is a very old Finnish wikipedia article about it. --ValtteriLahti12 (talk) 16:41, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
- As I said on the articles, if it's notable for en-wiki, there will also be WP:RS sources in English. If there is insufficient notability in English, it's doubtful that it meets inclusion criteria. None of the sources you've added are in English. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 20:23, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Is there a real rule about the language of the sources and where can it be seen, the sources are maibly from YLE which is a Finnish government funded source, it is for sure good enough, also why would there have to be always an English source, for example many villages most likely only have sources in their native tongue, and no mention in English, or even some small minority languages could mainly have sources in the majority language of that area. ValtteriLahti12 (talk) 05:28, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
- Per WP:NOENG, non-English sources fail Verifiability on Wikipedia. Therefore they can only be used to bolster WP:V and WP:RS sources. They can't be the sole sources in an article. Right now Findians is failing basic sourcing criteria for en-wiki. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 18:28, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
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I don't see where this says that an article can't be based off non English sources? if it would then we should start deleting many village pages or minority language/dialect pages, like the Rauma dialect page, in fact, most dialects of Finnish can never have any articles then, as sources that exists are almost all in Finnish. Couldn't those sources just be translated by someone for verification? https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Translators_available#Finnish-to-English However there is that one English source, which is reliable, because its government funded. With every article having to have multiple English sources, dying languages and dialects would often be left out of wikipedia. --ValtteriLahti12 (talk) 17:30, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- I haven't deleted the article. I said it needs more sourcing in English. May I suggest that, instead of continuing to edit my talk page to go round in circles, you find some RS sources in English? Thanks. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 17:59, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also, this is about communities, notably, Indigenous communities, on the North American continent. Why aren't there sources from that landbase and those communities? This started because you tried to insert this content in the Ojibwe article. The original draft said a substantial number of them speak Anishinaabemowin; I'd be happy to see sources from that language community, and confirmation from the Ojibwe people about the claims made about them in the article. It's not just the language, it's that the perspective is coming from another culture and countries entirely. All the sources are from another country than where these people live, in a language they don't speak. The Finnish government is not an authority on Indigenous peoples. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 18:13, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
The sources are mainly in Finnish because these people are partly descendant from Finns, and here there is much intrest in people who have genetic links to Finns, because the Uralic people are quite small, and it appears from Finnish sources that Finns themselves went into the areas they lived in (such as Yle having a documentary of them), to document information. https://areena.yle.fi/1-4616330 here is video information of the Finnish-Native mixed peoples, they mostly speak English in the video, as you desired information from the community itself, the video has them speaking. --ValtteriLahti12 (talk) 16:58, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Wind River
Two companies have been sourced now. 148.252.129.144 (talk) 17:59, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
LBI (2016 film)
Voltage Pictures is credited but the logo isn't in the film itself. 148.252.129.144 (talk) 18:02, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks for your intervention of the Yoruba people article and the subsequent protection. Please note that the newest section reversion under Name [1] made by you is not a part of the ongoing article conflict and I actually created and removed it from the section under conflict to avoid conflation and entanglement of issues, which seems to be exactly what has happened with your deletion of it. Thanks. Oramfe (talk) 22:32, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hi CorbieVreccan, I just want to corroborate that the Name section is not part of the dispute. The only section is Etymology and some parts of Infobox ethnic group, for which there are existing sections on the talk page. I am not in a dispute over the name section. Thank you for helping. :) -Oluwatalisman (talk) 22:57, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
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- Okay, thanks! -Oluwatalisman (talk) 23:11, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
vector risk management deletion
I asked the user who tagged the article on how to improve it, and i have, so could you maybe check it again and restore the article? Carrots3141592 (talk) 04:39, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- Where are these improvements? - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 18:22, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
i removed the company’s website as a source and changed the words to make it more neutral. Carrots3141592 (talk) 08:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
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Hi. I've just been maybe a little too bold, and turned the Braves (Native Americans) article into a redirect. It didn't seem to me that anything about that article could be saved due to the inherently racist concept in the name. (I suppose it could be rewritten in the same way that squ*w has been, but is it needed?) However, now I'm wondering if there is an article that some of the materials regarding 19th century warfare, etc, inserted in good faith by editors, might be inserted back into. Or maybe there is an article that would be a better target for the redirect? Would you please, if you have a moment, take a look at the previous version of the article and let me know what you think? Vizjim (talk) 16:01, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
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Hi - This user just went through a bunch of articles about notable Cherokees and removed "Cherokee" from their nationality. I've been through and reverted all of these, but wanted to flag this up as I know you're already in discussions regarding their disruptive edits elsewhere. Vizjim (talk) 08:13, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
- Revert it all. It's a continuation of the pattern. He's had a final warning. If he does any more of this he's blocked. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 18:27, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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Marsha P. Johnson tribute song by Sammy Copley
Read your comments about my removed contribution. Although I understand the concerns, especially when it comes to copyrights and spamming, I do think Sammy Copley is not a no-name artist. He is signed to a label and has gained millions of views on YT. Kind regards, Bob — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobheid (talk • contribs) 03:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- What label, and where does his work appear besides YouTube? - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 19:13, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Looking at the "label"... it looks to be a website that takes open submissions, "in all genres". It doesn't appear to record or distribute music, but rather lists the social media links of people who self-produce. Some of their "signed artists" only have an instagram and a tiktok. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 20:44, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback. Tinpot Records, founded by Tom Rosenthal last year, is still a work in progress. Let's see how Sammy Copley's career develops and if he gains more clout add the song? If not, then not. As you can see I'm not a daily wikipedian, so this stuff is a bit trial and mostly error for me, although I have contributed successfully in my field of education (Medieval History) in the past. Kind regards, Bob — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobheid (talk • contribs) 23:12, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed, Tom Rosenthal (musician), now that all the self-sourced stuff has been cleaned up, barely meets notablity. I have to say, there are also probable WP:COI/Autobio issues with that article, as well. The majority of the content was contributed by a Single Purpose Account and was sourced to his own sites. I think the use of his songs on the TV shows probably makes him notable, but only barely. The new label... "two" of the artists are him and his alter-ego. And it sounds like he's barely performed live. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 23:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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I couldn't find anything on WP:NCP suggesting that indigenous people's tribal citizenship should be used in the context they were used in the Rutherford Falls article. Would you be able to point me in the right direction? --Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 21:00, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
- We mostly handle it at The Indigenous Wikiproject. We've been a bit slow about getting it all integrated into the MOS. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 21:15, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – March 2022
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).
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Guideline and policy news
- A RfC is open to change the wording of revision deletion criterion 1 to remove the sentence relating to non-infringing contributions.
- A RfC is open to discuss prohibiting draftification of articles over 90 days old.
Technical news
- The deployment of the reply tool as an opt-out feature, as announced in last month's newsletter, has been delayed to 7 March. Feedback and comments are being welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project. (T296645)
- Special:Nuke will now allow the selection of standard deletion reasons to be used when mass-deleting pages. This was a Community Wishlist Survey request from 2022. (T25020)
- The ability to undelete the talk page when undeleting a page using Special:Undelete or the API will be added soon. This change was requested in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. (T295389)
Arbitration
- Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.
Miscellaneous
- The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
- Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
- The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey results have been published alongside the ranking of prioritized proposals.
Kyrie's enrollment
It seems you are intent on using "documented descendent" in Kyrie Irving's article just so you can use him as an example on your essay. That seems unnecessary since he is now enrolled as the new sources state. oncamera (talk page) 22:22, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
- That was his status for four years. I had no idea he had petitioned for, let alone been recently been granted, citizenship. He was also mis-filed under "self-identified". I'm just trying to keep things accurate. - CorbieVreccan ☊ ☼ 22:35, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
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