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Jacob Alexander Figueroa

Hello! I saw that you edited a category on this Wikipedia page, thank you! Also, I'd like to point out a possible conflict of interest with one of the users voting to delete this article. This user: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:Johnpacklambert is voting to delete the article and he clearly has a conflict of interest as his profile states he is a member of the Church of the Latter Day Saints. Jacob Alexander Figueroa is a LGBT-friendly artist for a decade plus. The Church of Latter Day Saints is known to harass LGBT groups, and supporters. Would you be willing to respond to his vote for "Delete" that he is in a direct conflict of interest? I suspected that there was racism or other bigotry at play here and I believe his profile confirms this. Thank you! WeAreAllStars (talk) 13:58, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher)@WeAreAllStars:, you need to chill. We have something here called assume good faith. We do not run around calling people White supremacists (as you do at the above AfD) and bigots (as you do above) without evidence. Continuing to do so without evidence will land you in a bit of trouble. If you had been around AfDs a little longer you would also know that Johnpacklambert almost always !votes delete, followed by a few neutral words. There is absolutely nothing bigoted or surprising about his !vote. ThatMontrealIP (talk) 22:06, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Links farming, unsourced edits and uploading email screenshots

User:Elprime is using Wikipedia for creating personal attacks on Santrex, he is uploading email screenshots (File:Alexander Freeman Threatened Brian Krebs .png), google links (File:HostSailor TrendMicro.png), adding spam links https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Hosting_environment&oldid=961794660 and disrupting Wikipedia pages. Adding spam on pages https://wiki.riteme.site/w/index.php?title=Crime_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates&oldid=961874445. Can you look into this? 71.195.54.223 (talk) 16:33, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/More of Our Stupid Noise (2nd nomination)

Mentioning this here because the nom didn't notify you. Username⁶⁸⁹² 00:56, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Language!

Watch your language, please! BOVINEBOY2008 01:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

There is not, and never has been, a no swearing rule on Wikipedia, so I'll use any language I damn please. Bearcat (talk) 02:25, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

But civility is one of the five main pillars of Wikipedia! Perhaps you should review it, especially WP:ESDOS, where it says in edit summaries, "Don't be aggressive". BOVINEBOY2008 14:40, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Also profanity is a sign of incivility, per WP:ICU, which could get you blocked. BOVINEBOY2008 14:41, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Intensive Care Unit, which is a project about rescuing problematic articles? I think you missed the target there.

As for the lists themselves, as important as it is that lists be referenced under current rules, we do have a lot of old lists that were created long before that rule was imposed and thus still don't have references at all — in other words, as important as it is that lists be referenced now, comprehensively adding references to all lists is a bigger project than anybody can be reasonably expected to take on all at once, and it would create an unreasonably extreme amount of work for other editors to attempt to reconstruct dozens or hundreds of evacuated lists from scratch. So it's neither collaborative nor productive to more or less erase almost every entry in an entire list just because it doesn't already have a reference on it, thus creating an urgent content crisis that other people have to drop more important projects to fix immediately — and if a film already has an article, furthermore, then all anyone (including you) has to do is pull a reference over from the existing article to elimiate the problem. So the rule is that even if a list entry is not referenced, you are not permitted to remove it from the list if its includability in the list is properly documented in its own article.

So the only times it's ever acceptable to remove an entry from a list are if (a) the entry is both unreferenced and redlinked, or (b) you actually have a legitimate reason to dispute whether it belongs in the list at all (such as if somebody tried to add Star Wars to List of Canadian films of 2019 even though it's obviously neither a 2019 film nor a Canadian film.) If you're not restricting yourself to checking the lists for those types of issues, but just indiscriminately removing all entries that don't already have a reference provided directly in the list even if they do have properly supporting references in their own articles, then you're not being constructive or collaborative either and don't get to claim that you're the king of the high road. Bearcat (talk) 14:56, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for June 15

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Nomination of Peter Tiefenbach for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Peter Tiefenbach is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Peter Tiefenbach until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Leschnei (talk) 14:07, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Kinga Surma

Hi Bearcat, this is an urgent message about the article Kinga Surma, Some user goes by the name of User:Amchow78 has put Category:People from Ottawa into the category but King Surma is not undertaking as an Ottawa politician. Kinga Surma is the MPP for the Toronto provincial riding of Etobicoke Centre. I remove the the People from Ottawa twice and User:Amchow78 has restored it twice. Now could you go to the Kinga Surma article and remove the Category:People from Ottawa category because Kinga Surma did not undertaken as an Ottawa politician, she is undertaking as a Toronto politician. Once the People from Ottawa category remove could you talk to User:Amchow78 to never put the "People from Ottawa" category Kinga Surma did not undertaken as an Ottawa politician, when Kinga Surma first elected in the Toronto riding it will kept the "Politicians from Toronto". Go talk to User:Amchow78 to never put People from Ottawa category. I will be happy with your reply. Thanks. 2001:569:74D2:A800:34D7:29ED:E4A7:A0EA (talk) 18:07, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

I have remove the People from category, so could you watch the Kinga Surma article if User:Amchow78 restores the People from Ottawa category remove it immediately and talk to User:Amchow78 to never restore the "People from Ottawa" category about undertaking. Thanks again. 2001:569:74D2:A800:34D7:29ED:E4A7:A0EA (talk) 18:14, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

removed categories on sandbox page?

Hi! I was working on a page in my userspace and added some categories that I thought were relevant. It's just a work in progress. Just wondering why you removed them? Are they supposed to be added after the page is posted as a real Wikipedia page? Thank you!!

ORCommsGalKayla (talk) 17:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) @ORCommsGalKayla: Only pages in mainspace should have categories, not those in draft or sandboxes, otherwise these unfinished items appear in category listings. There are two ways to suppress them: put them all into a comment (I've just reverted Bearcat and then done so) or suppress each category by putting a ":" between the opening double bracket and "Category": [[:Category:Yorkshire]]. Similarly, drafts shouldn't have stub templates, as these generate categories too: again, commenting out works well. Hope that helps. PamD 20:37, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! ORCommsGalKayla (talk) 21:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Double Live

Hi, Bearcat. Don't know how strongly you feel about this close--you know a lot more about the Rheostatics than I do. I think you had a good case for keeping this one; I'm also not sure how much experience the closer has. Take care. Caro7200 (talk) 22:52, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Towns versus townships in Greater Sudbury

Thanks for fixing. When I was flattening this table, Excel autopopulated as "TP" for township, when I wanted "T" for town and this went unnoticed. If you find anymore errors, please advise. Cheers, Hwy43 (talk) 04:28, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

June 2020

The first sentence of edit violates WP:CIVIL and is entirely unnecessary. Please remove it and apologize for your offensive personal attack. Nfitz (talk) 21:39, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Clarification on the categories you changed

Hello Bearcat,
Thank you for the edit you made on the Elsie S. Kanza article, I understand it is in good faith. However, I will like to clarify that Elsie S. Kanza is also a citizen of Tanzania although she was born in Kenya. Also, she is not a journalist, so I would like to know why "she MUST be categorized SPECIFICALLY as a KENYAN journalist". Like I earlier said when I changed the category, the above article was created during a project, and the categories I inputted were part of the instructions for articles to count.

Having said the above, please I will humble request for your permission to include the categories or undo your edit. Thank you.

--Uzoma Ozurumba (talk) 08:14, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Drag Race Australia for deletion

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Nomination of 10th Jutra Awards for deletion

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Nomination of 11th Jutra Awards for deletion

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Nomination of 9th Jutra Awards for deletion

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Nomination of 8th Jutra Awards for deletion

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July

Swearing at editors like this, because they have pointed out a mistake (or ever), is absolutely unacceptable. [[WP::5P4]] is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia, and cannot be violated. You may be blocked from editing if you continue in this manner. Nfitz (talk) 16:39, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not, and has never had, any rule against swearing. In exactly no version of reality would any Wikipedia ever be blocked just for using a swear word once. Bearcat (talk) 17:36, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

And if you said "fucking government" or something, then sure. But the combination of words "your fucking high horse" seems to have a personal edge to it. Sad to see you deflecting this, rather than doing the right thing and simply apologizing. Nfitz (talk) 00:18, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I might, if I had anything to apologize for. You're not the arbiter of what is or isn't the right thing, and I'm not a person who needs lectures in what is or isn't the right thing from you. Bearcat (talk) 00:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)