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Banes, you're welcome. I have annoyed one WikiPerson and helped another today, so the karma must have evened out. Brequinda
Hi Banes, good to see the Capetonians outnumber those from Jhb for now (some minor rivalry always spices things up) :). A pleasure (adding the templates) - I see you've also experienced your first raging hothead on the apartheid pages. Welcome to Wikipedia :) For me, the best way is of course not to feed the troll, and accept I'm likely to be wrong as often as not, and not take it too seriously. Others not sharing my ideas need not shatter my sense of identity :) Greenman20:30, 4 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
That mistake on the Bush talk page is fine - we all make them. I've probably padded my edit count with about 100 edits to add my signature to comments, or remove random symbols from within words, so I'm far from perfect. Anyway, I'm a Year 11 student at Caulfield Grammar School (blatant cross-promotion for my featured article :p), so my second-last year of high school. I hope to see you contributing to lots of articles and making many good contributions. We teens add a lot to this site - just look at Emsworth's contributions! Good luck on the Wikipedia, and feel free to drop me a line any time. Thanks. Harro5 07:14, July 28, 2005 (UTC)
Yes, it was I, Xiphon who wrote that message. Sorry if I scared you ;) . My questions still stand however, which you can answer on my talk page or on the appropriate discussion page of the article in question.--Xiphon17:53, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I see that we have both been active on the apartheid talk page. A word of friendly advice, if you indent your replies using a semicolon (:), it makes them easier to read (use more to indent further). I was impressed by your contributions on the Bush page, what the blazes is all that stuff about archiving etc??? I do not blame you in any way for the treehouse incident, mostly because you tell the tale with such flair! I got several laughs. If you could add more humorous details that would be great too--Xiphon18:05, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
By using the semicolon you indent your paragraph, such as I have done here. I would love to write an article, but everything interesting has been taken. You going firm on your resolution to write about the heroes of apartheid resistance? Maybe I could get onboard with that? I have been active recently in the ancient history section, discussing Alexander etc. It is my little niche area.--Xiphon18:32, 1 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Just thought I'd drop you a line to say "thanks" for all your hard work on the History of South Africa in the apartheid era article. It's looking really good due, in no small part, to your excellent editing. Keep it up! :-) TomerTALK 20:33, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
I mumble a lot. :-p TomerTALK 23:37, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
Wow Banes! Long have I said this (read this as if I am an old man with a flowing white beard seated by a roaring fire), but your location has gone downhill. Many a time have we joked about the "colour wars" but now it is time for the diplomats to step aside and let the army come through (Rome TW style).I must say that I am impressed by your cool-headedness in dealing with the would-be escapee, however the outcome might have been very different if he had been armed and not just a petty thief. There wasn't really much point in pursuing, at best he would have spent a coupla' months in Pollsmoor, but more likely his case would have been dropped as being just toO insignificant - the whole system is swamped. Have you looked into the landmine option? In other news I have recently discovered that it is possible for me to select and lift segments of a DVD's sound track on my machine for personal use. The catchy tune from "Pirates of the Caribbean" has already been stored and adjusted (Pump that bass!). If I had e-jay in my possession I could incorporate catchy numbers into the tune for variety. Just a thought. (LOTR will be my next project). I have dispatched the info you requested, your weekly postal-runner should bring it in soon. Apparently I have been invited to a massive LAN in CLairmont on Sunday, so I'm not sure that it is a good idea to take off Monday as well, but if that doesn't materialise (you know LAN's), then I'll give you a call.-END TRANSMISSION
Yes I will most likely find time for the Springboks, in between Chamberlain and the Great Depression. Am in the process of updating my user page, but will have to read the manuals first.
TO be honest, I haven't sent it yet, I am too lazy. I'll do it before the end of the day.
Incidentally I hope that you'll agree that my user page has its own distinct flavour to it - much better than copying someone elses!No one can take offence if I download music - surely you know that it is perfectly legal to download songs for approx 1$ each?
To you I address an emphatic rasberry, or, in the words of Monty Python (which I watched on DVD the other day) "I wave my private parts in your general direction!"
No, unfortuantely I don't pay for my downloads, however I haven't said that on my user page ;)
On a more serious note, I would like to create something, a joint project is sounding better all the time, any ideas? The frenchman lets off a stream of abuse, and somewhere he states the line I qouted. I know, because I also watched the Japanese version (really I did), and they had that line as a subtitle.
Ja maybe, but not exactly likely to be read I think. I have a new ambition in the mean time, I wish to receive the janitorial award for fixing of minor errors on pages. The DVD also had the lego version of the film, it was the funniest (and most pathetic) thing ever! I'm definately thinking of writing an article either of historical note, or about a book.
You still need help with that image Banes? Apparently your new article came under fire on the apartheid page. But if you still want help then just drop me a line--Xiphon17:19, 11 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I need to know where that image comes from, ie give me an article.
Tell me where the image comes from, because I need a name. Did you upload it yourself? If its from another page (non wIKI) it may not be legal. what do you mean vandalised?
Mind you, if you really don't know, I could upload it for you and do verything myself. If you want me do this then just let me know ASAP thank you.
I had a good chuckle at the appaling English of the miscreant in question. Please answer my above question--Xiphon
Banes, I noticed that you made a spelling change in the article Baptists, but also put question marks as if you weren't sure. The original spelling was "as is" from the older English as Thomas Helwys wrote it - "comaund what of man he will, and wee are to obey it,"
I'm not sure if there is a Wikipedia rule or standard on this. Your change makes it easier for the average person to read. But since it is a direct quote from Helwys' writings, perhaps it should remain as he wrote it? Not sure. - Rlvaughn
Of course you are wanted, one of the biggest things you can do for the project is to check the notice board often and vote, and help us to form coherent policy on decency. Agriculture15:58, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Never let anyone intimidate you on Wikipedia...that is the way to survive some of the attacks. Continue to create and edit articles you care about and go into the "war zone" articles only when you feel up to it. It took me awhile to develop a cool head....a few still try to push my buttons to little avail. Just follow the rules and you'll do fine. I have doubts as to whether Agriculture will return...he seems fairly pissed off. I tried to calm him down, but don't think it worked. Have a good one.--MONGO 13:06, August 17, 2005 (UTC)
Here's my educated guess at an answer. Violating WP:POINT once will probably just get a warning, but repeat offences, like with any other issue, can lead to blocking and banning. The following is from the WP:POINT guidline page:
Egregious disruption of any kind is blockable by any administrator--for up to one month in the case of repeat offenses that are highly disruptive. If you are ever involved in arbitration, doing things against the spirit of this guideline may also be a factor in the decision of the Arbitration Committee. See Wikipedia:Arbitration policy/Precedents for examples the Committee's views on various types of disruptive behavior.
Banes, yes, if someone has signed up with purely the purpose to disrupt, then they can be warned. If they disrupt repeatedly it becomes vandalism and can also be a violation of WP:POINT which can get them blocked. Repeated violations beyond that can result in a Rfc and if that fails, Arbitration. Like your killer rabbit pic...!--MONGO 19:29, August 18, 2005 (UTC)
I'm probably going to get something else going after the Vfd is completed anyway...that thing is a disaster zone...but the core of the concept is not over...I'll let you know what comes up...waiting to see if Agriculture returns and what Noitall and a few others want to do.--MONGO 08:30, August 19, 2005 (UTC)
It appears that MONGO or sockpuppets of his (it looks like the IP addresses of some anons are clustered) continually reverts the WfD project page to remove any good faith contributions from me or others. I think s/he thinks it's her/his own private sandbox, and none of us barbarians may contribute... but that's not how WP works. I suspect we're not in 100% agreement on the project and its goals; but you are clearly someone committed to the WP consensus project, and I could use your help in watching for vandalism. Thanks muchly. Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 17:03, 2005 August 22 (UTC)
Well, the sore losers over there went and renominated it for deletion then it was quickly denominated. I've been accused of vandalism, trolling and sockpuppetry (all lies). A few only want to discuss imagery and the issues go beyond that. Noitall and a few others are hardly participating and as far as I am concerned, I ended the discussion about what imagery can and what imagery can't be in wikipedia with this argument and no one wants to really challenge it: [1]. Anyhoo...chime in if you want...I'm going to be busy for most of the day so I probably won't have much time to mess with it...oh yeah, you may want to take down your decency banner on your user page...but up to you. Good to hear from ya.--MONGO 20:02, August 25, 2005 (UTC)
Where did you fid that..I was looking all over and couldn't locate that info for Heaven's Peak, nor can I find much in terms of size and depth of St. Mary Lake and other technical stuff related to itmes found along the Going-to-the-Sun Road...nice job! I'll probably resume fixing some the articles I worked on yesterday in a couple of hours. The Heaven's Peak article should probably get an infobox template such as this one: Gannett Peak. Thanks again, I'll do the metric conversion unless you want to.
Yeah, I didn't know how to do the conversion either and had another user help me...the way I do it is to use Google [2]...simply write out what you want to convert such as: 10 kilometers to feet or vice versa...also works well for area such as: 10 square kilometers to acres, etc. then at the top of the page, it'll give you the conversion. You might want to check out Heaven's Peak now and see what I mean by the template...it's used to standardize all mountains and make them look more like encyclopedic articles. Also, just so you know, I have never been to South Africa, but all the pictures I have seen indicate it is a beautiful country. Have a good one.--MONGO 08:54, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
Good point...I'll look around for first ascent info...as far as the merit project, inless you or someone can convince User:Noitall, User:Johntex and a few others with like minded attitudes to help on a regular basis, it isn't going to really become cohesive and I think they're going to try and delete it again, or at the least, play obstructionists to any forward progress. I had to break from it as it was only bringing out the worst in me so maybe in a few days or so.--MONGO 09:18, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
Would you be happy to go to RFAr, with the intention of stopping users Hipocrite and Lulu of Lotus Eaters - the two biggest trolls, from editing the decency project? I will happily fill out the details, as it's getting to the point where nothing else is going to work. Erwin
Do you have email? I will send you a copy of the RFAr and you can decide to endorse it. I will only file it if there are several supporters. Erwin
This message has been posted on the talk pages of all users actively editing the Decency project. The RFAr has now been completed, documenting an extensive range of disruptive edits by Hipocrite and Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters, and is available on request.
Before the RFAr is submitted, I think a conversation on Noitall’s talk page User_talk:Noitall#Arbitration should be read, where Hipocrite seems to indicate he might be open to mediation. Perhaps the mediation process might be productive on this occasion, and I am willing to extend an olive branch before banning is contemplated. I will file a mediation request in the next few days, unless there are any objections on my talk page. Of course, if Hipocrite and/or Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters do not agree to mediation, the case will go immediately to arbcom.
Erwin
Re: For some more context, Agriculture and me hated eachother, in fact I probably triggered his leaving. In return, he called me a trollish admin and accused me of using a sock to discredit him.
Sad how low people can sink when they get annoyed at eachother, isn't it?
But that's all in the past, and we seem to be fine from eachother. I've left him a peace note (though he never replied :-|)
Anyways yes, you're welcome in Esperanza. Go list yourself under B :)
Great to hear from a fellow Wikipedian from South Africa, there's stil far too few of us on here. Thanks for the compliment about the SAAF articles, though I have to admit I've been deficient in completing and updating them, so it's great that you and the other guy are working on them too. Good luck! Impi22:49, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
How vandals are spotted quickly? You may be aware of the page Special:Recent changes, but it has little clues of the quality of changes and it's slow, so we have a IRC/java based script that monitors recent changes - CryptoDerk's Vandal Fighter (CDVF). It's a blessing and a curse, you can easily spot malicious changes is the good part, the bad is that it's hard not to monitor it and make articles at the same time, since the new changes appear fast. That's the long version. -feydey19:11, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
3RR does not apply to cases of "simple vandalism" (Blanking a page and reverting with "you suck!", etc). I'm actually using a bot on IRC, #en.wikipedia.vandalism, on Freenode, which Coolcat has made. It parses the wikimedia IRC feeds that CDVF uses, and filters out most valid edits. I also am a sysop, so I can revert a little bit faster...sometimes. I'm on dialup. --Phroziac(talk)18:06, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
How many times did you edit conflict me today, rvv/clearing up vandalism? I think it was three, and, you'd already done most of the others I checked over. Well done, speedy. Carry on. Alfmelmac19:16, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again, I have (unilatterly) taken away the 'assembly' idea, as per my reasons at that edit summary and per Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Charter. I have left the admin general, as some leadership is good. Now, all you have to do is be a member to establish consensus, the whole assembly idea is gone. Also, I have added an advisory committee, of four members, with limited power besides watching over the admin general and making sure he doesn't do anything stupid. Please look at the ammended charter, and I would love a comment. Redwolf24 (talk) 23:48, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I tried to enter some information the other day and it appears that maybe you have edited the entry back off. It was concerning mooking equipment. How do I get it to stay on the page?
funyunmaster@yahoo.com
The last time I'm spamming you all with Esperanza stuff
Hello Banes. As you may or may not know, there have been some troubles with Esperanza. So now, as a last ditch to save the community, please vote at Wikipedia:Esperanza/Reform on all neccisary polls. P.S. I'm very sorry for spamming you all with these messages, and this will be the last time. I recommend putting ESP on your watchlist. Cheers and please look at that, let's stop the civil war then. Redwolf24 (talk) 02:42, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Danny Boy-- Thank you for your kind sentiments concerning my RfA. I appreciate your support. Although I fear this is headed for "no consensus", I would hope you would think about supporting me again in the future. See you around. --Lord Voldemort(Dark Mark)13:41, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
==Who's RfA== Thank you for supporting my masters RfA. He appreciates your support and comments and looks forward to better serving Wikipedia the best he can. Of course I will be doing all of the real work. He would have responded to you directly, but he is currently out of town, and wanted to thank you asap. Thanks again. --Who's mop?¿? 21:07, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, my first ever spam mass produced and mailed to the spamlist. Well first of all let me re-state that we have an irc channel, #wp-esperanza, and its been rather empty, so I'd appreciate it if you come, even if you just idle about. Now, the evil polls have closed, and I left a justification note for running the evil polls. Nothing has really changed, but at least I have somewhat of a consensus. I hope to figure out a way to overturn my power to JCarriker somehow, I'll figure out a way :-) Meanwhile, I've been busy reforming the mediation system where I am the chairman now, er, acting chairman. Enjoy your spam, with extra vikings. Redwolf24 (talk) 00:35, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for reverting that vandalism to my user page, and for giving me my first barnstar. Both are much appreciated, and the barnstar will be kept in a place of pride there on my user page. --Canderson714:59, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
For me it's all the same... I just thought I hadn't saved my edit before I finally logged in and almost freaked out. Ehm... thanks? :) Aarnepolkusin22:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there Banes, its SWD316. I got your message. I said I was going to leave Wikipedia, but I decided not too. I just went on Wikibeak for about 5-6 days. Thanks for considering me to be good enough to be an admin, others apparently didn't think it was such a good idea. SWD316talk to me20:30, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, thanks for dropping a note! I usually have a notice or message on my main user page, and then a link to my "real" page, named /User2. That way, if anyone clicks on my sig, they go straight to a message that I want them to read (Wikibreak, Esperanza, etc), and still get the benefit of my info. Glad to see you're using the same system! Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza21:18, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hello spam list, look at this. Essjay is the new leader of Esperanza, and I'm interested in seeing how he runs it. I'm busy doing other work... Please comment at that talk page there. I will still probably run the spamlist though. Redwolf24 (talk) 22:55, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Our new admin general, Essjay, has set the date for the advisory committee elections, that date being October 7th. By UTC it is October 5th right now. So see WP:ESP/E for voting in two days, and add yourself to the list if you're interested in running. On a personal note, I'm considering running, as I only resigned as admin general because of time. I'm sure I could help out on the advisory committee... Anywho, watchlist that page, and be sure to read the voting method too. Regards, Redwolf24 (talk) 01:07, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Just watch the election page, comb the history every so often, and bring it to my attention if you see anything suspicious (non-Esperanzians voting, other's votes being altered, etc.) Congratulations, you're a poll worker! -- Essjay · Talk20:37, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Banes, why thank you, I would love to be an administrator but no one nominated me yet. I have noticed four other wikipedians who also deserve to be administrators and would gladly support them if asked (Impi, Elf-friend, Pall and Wizzy). I have also noticed that you part of Esperanza. I think it is a good cause. --Jcw6917:32, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to be the first South African administrator then I will gladly support you. :-) I came across stress levels some time back but because I have been busy with other things during the last month I did not notice Esperanza. I only noticed it today from your talk page and would like to sign up but will wait until after the voting.--Jcw6918:25, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yes I see your point but when I joined there wasn't much from a South African point of view so I concentrated mainly on Africa (especially South Africa) anyway you could have a look at the users I mentioned above although one of them is not South African. --Jcw6918:47, 7 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry Banes, the Telkom exchange went down just after 7pm. After been on the phone to them until way after 10pm they only sent someone out this morning to see what the problem was. It only went up at 1pm today. Anyway thank you for the nomination, I hope by accepting abit late does not effect my chances.
Okay, I have answered all the questions, not easy when you have to sell yourself with three questions. When does it move onto the main voting area?
Yes I won't forget about my ardent supporters, lol - you starting to sound like a campaign manger. Keep up the good work. --Jcw6918:23, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I have not seen Elf-friend around for some time, but I will try get hold of him somehow. I am trying to drum up some support--Jcw6918:37, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't ever nominated anyone but you can follow this link: [3] and it will take you to the instructions on how. Not that you planned on nominating me, but I'm currently not interested. I have you bookmarked so I see your edits all the time and after a few more months of contributions I may nominate you though! Participate in Afd, article editing, RC Patrol and what not as you have been and you'll be one of my prime choices. I have your "killer rabbit" image as one of my backgrounds on my computer...funny image!
Ah yes, I remember that now. What a mess. It was sad to see what happened to Agriculture there, but in the end, i'm glad everything turned out ok there, that had the potential to get even uglier with time. Ultimately, the best thing I thought I could do there was update the vote count, so that's what I tried to focus on -- believe it or not, despite how it may seem, I have a bad temper; a trait that I loathe in myself and try desperately to change on a continuing basis.
I almost lost it again with this Fadix thing, but I figured the best thing to do was to leave a diplomatic sounding message on his talk page since i'm getting the adminship anyway and not make it any worse. Me and Coolcat got a laugh out of what transpired on IRC this morning.
Now if I can just get the Tony Sidaway thing under control, i'll be all set. Karmafist21:37, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Banes, thank you very much for your vote of confidence in my bid to become one of the first members of the Esperanza Advisory Committee. Even though the elections not finished, and the final results are still out, I would like you to know that I appreciate your support, and look forward to working together in making Wikipedia a better place to work and edit. Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza18:18, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, that is a huge compliment, being listed on your user page. You've honored me, and made my day. I hope that I will be able to stand up and work hard with you in the future. Thanks a lot, Bratschetalk | Esperanza03:27, 10 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Perfectly percolated coffee, Esperanza's own blend.
Regarding your Esperanza notice saying that users should tell you of their acts of kindness, and compliment you on being an election worker. Well, I spent a lot of time recently welcoming newcomers, which you can probably confirm on my contributions. Oh, and you're a wonderful election worker. Have some coffee! JDH Owens talk | Esperanza20:25, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I do something like [4], and copy/paste the results into a spreadsheet I have that supports the nominee charts I do. I frequently do this even when I'm not going to make a chart just to see the usage of edit summaries and average edits per day. Since it's an automatic generation (I actually copy the data, then click a button on the spreadsheet, and it does the rest), it's quick and easy to do. --Durin20:25, 13 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Banes, thank you so much for electing me to the Advisory Committee. And since you were the first one to vote for me, you get a cookie. :P Acetic'Acid20:25, 14 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
My other annoouncement is that our founder, JCarriker, has founded Esperanza's sister project, Wikipediology. I have written two essays here (my name is Matt Binder). My essays are under Teenage Wikipedians and Anon Editors.
On behalf of myself and Jay Carriker and the other wikipediologists, I would appreciate it if you were to join.
I noticed you were asking about Elf-friend's non-appearance at Jcw69's admin nomination vote. Unfortunately, Elf-friend hasn't edited since March, when he suddenly disappeared without notice. I didn't know him outside Wikipedia, and he never enabled the "email this user option", so I haven't been able to contact him to find out what happened. I just hope it was nothing bad, and that he's just on a Wiki-holiday and will return sometime, as he was a pretty prolific editor. Anyway, just thought I'd give you the heads up on the reason for his silence. Impi01:12, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Impi is correct about the reason for my long silence ... I was a bit "gatvol" about a number of issues on Wikipedia (mostly systemic bias and granularity) and decided to take a long (7 months!) Wikiholiday. Outside of Wikipedia my life is just fine :-). I'm sorry to see you are stressed at the moment and hope things will improve soon. Elf-friend12:22, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your kind words and your offer. Fortuitously, my first login after my Wikiholiday was on the last day of voting for Jcw's adminship, so at least I was able to add my vote to his well-deserved election. Yes, I would be interested in becoming an admin in the future, it would certainly help in fighting vandals ("manual" reverting is a bit tiresome). But mark my words, my long absence from Wikipedia will be held against me by some of the voters. Elf-friend14:17, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Let's rather make that early in the new year :-) ... gives me some more time for editing (and other useful activities) and also gets the busy holiday season out of the way. Elf-friend12:00, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks again :-). If Esperanza had been around in March (or was it?), I might not have needed the Wikiholiday in the first place. And I just joined the Counter Vandalism unit too ... :-) Elf-friend13:41, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
My compadrial Esperanzian! Thank you very much for your support - my bid (as you probably know) went swimmingly. I couldn't have asked for a better one. Thank you very much and I just hope I don't mess up! See you on the esperanza IRC soon, yeah? --Celestianpowerhablamé13:05, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hope the external stress lessens, I will watch your page against vicious rabbits, black knights (limbed or otherwise), french taunters, three headed knights and the like. Alfmelmac17:20, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
First, let me say that it's unfortunate to hear you've got a lot of stress in your life...believe me, I know how that can be... You'll notice I haven't been around much lately, mostly for the same reason (although there's a matter of a new woman in my life too, which has been taking up a little bit of my time ) ...
As far as the question about whether or not I've been nominated for Admin, the answer is "no", although a few people have offered to do so. I'm not sure how useful I'm going to be as an admin between now and December [when school gets out], but I'm not opposed to being nominated...God knows the extra buttons would be nice sometimes!
Anyways, I hope you get your situation sorted out, and hopefully you'll be all better and back before you realize you were gone. If you need to talk to someone, email me and I'll let you know how to get in touch. TomerTALK21:07, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The picture on my userpage of St Mary Lake is free use, as are all the images I upload... that picture was here before I was as I think I pulled it out of a wiki article....so no problem, use as you please! The view shown in that picture is one of the most photographed viwpoints in all the National Parks in the U.S....it's close to the ones you may have seen of Yosemite National Park, in terms of number of times it has been photographed. Have a good day!--MONGO18:12, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Banes - Thanks for your vote of confidence on my RfA. I was very touched by the large number of supporters. If you need anything, please feel free to ask! --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 05:05, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
<the crowds give a standing ovation as Daniel takes to the stage and stands by my side> Thank you for all that you've done from the beginning to the end. Your support was invaluable. Now get back and pass those exams. --Jcw6918:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'm trying to make sure that I take the time to thank everyone who voted in my RfA, and verify that they don't have any concerns over my experience, neutrality, etc. If you have a problem, please drop a line on my talk page and I will answer it as best as I can. Again, thank you. --tomf688{talk}14:37, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate your concerns and your honesty. However, I have responded to some of the comments that were listed above in opposition [[5]]. Thank you, a.n.o.n.y.mt11:22, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Also I would like to just point out that two of the editors who voted against me are biased against all Muslim editors, I am sorry to say. The other person who voted against me had perfectly valid reasons about a 3rr in my first week of wikipedia. As for the one who wrote a large paragraph on me, I don't know them and why they voted against me, since they only have been here 2 weeks (and a month after my disputes with two editors on "India-related" articles were settled). I can only assume that they might be a sockpuppet, but I am not going to speculate. I still like to thank you replying to my message. I expect a lot of oppose votes in the future, though, because the first oppose voter posted material on a wikiproject trying to rally support against me, which seems unfair. However, I will let wikipedians decide. :) Thank you, a.n.o.n.y.mt11:33, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I fully understand your position Banes. It can get violent and stressing on these voting pages. See you around the wikipedia and take all the time you need to think this over. Thanks :) --a.n.o.n.y.mt05:11, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Banes. Thanks for your note! Yes, I am quite stressed, but it is due to volume of real-life work rather than any Wikipedia issue. I am looking forward to my stress going down, but it may only happen at the end of term. :-)
The months I spent in South Africa were back when I was a student -- I was mostly in Cape Town and Stellenbosch, but I did also get the chance to spend some time in and around Kruger National Park and in Swaziland. I had a fantastic time in the months I spent there and plan to go back as soon as possible (only issues of cash flow keep me away!). --Ngb?!?21:20, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
That depends entirely on what you want to do. Have you got a hotmail account or are you sticking with yahoo? JUt cast around, somehwhere on there you can download windows messenger.
Hi Banes, When I view the diff between two edits, there is a rollback link which when clicked will revert to the previous edit not authored by the last editor and puts in the summuary for example "Reverted edits by 202.156.6.59 to last version by Srini81". What does help which you can also use is CryptoDerk's Vandal Fighter . It gives me an unfair advantage over vandels--Jcw6906:35, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for supporting me in my RfA. I never thought I would get so much support! Thanks to your help, my nomination was the 10th most supported RfA in Wikipedia history. Now, please keep an eye out on me while I learn the new tools, ok? Thanks again! Titoxd(?!?)17:33, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The lucky bastard bit was a reference to Xiphon's somewhat fortunate view at the time. I've written a bit on how I solved it at his talk page, and as you can see it wasn't actually that hard. I mean, I'm crap at maths, so most cryptoanalysis is beyond my comprehension, let alone my ability. No problem with the tips, I'll send them over as soon as I've got a bit of free time. On another note, I think you and Xiphon are the first guys to have communicated in code ok Wikipedia's talk pages, that deserves some credit. — Impi17:48, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again Banes, I thought about what you, LV, and Celestianpower said and your right. I was just mad. I decided not to leave. I just needed some time away. How two days of no stress make a differance. I came back because of my 4 day absense on one page I edit regulary, there has been much vandalism. I read your last comment on the Esperanza talk page too. It is depressing seeing those people listed, even myself, knowing they quit. If anyone noticed my last edit before this I stated in the edit summury the quote: "Etú Brutè, then fall Caesar", which in Latin means something like "You too Brutus", which are the last words uttered by Julius Caesar when he was stabbed in the back. I felt like I was stabbed in the back by Wikipedia. But now Im over that. Thank you. SWD316talk to me16:42, 5 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The final outcome was (96/2/0), so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any queries about my actions, please do not hesitate to contact me. Again, thanks!
I was considering nominating you for admin soon too...perhaps reconsider after you take some time off from here.--MONGO02:48, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I know how conflict and stress come and go. Don't let it get you down: there are always going to be people against you in life. The real test is how you respond. So rise to the occasion, take a break, and come back ready to tackly the great beast that is Wikipedia. I hope to see you soon. Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza03:18, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much for voting in my RfA, and especially thank you for supporting me. I really appreciate it, and will wield the mop and bucket the best way I know how. I, like RoboCop, promise four things:
Serve the public trust
Protect the innocent
Uphold the law
Classified
I hope to do all those things and, even if I can't keep my fourth classified, will do all I can to be a great admin. Stop by my talk page, or on article pages; I look forward to working with you. A belated thanks again, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] [[additions | e-mail]]04:46, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Dear Banes. I saw your message on Shauri's talkpage. Wikibreaks do indeed work wonders and I am sure that you will be seeing her positive influence on Wikipedia one day soon :).--Wiglaf08:01, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to ask those fellows who have not indicated whether or not they grant permission for a wikibio on them to please do so soon. I'd also appreciate it everyone could expand or create the wikibios for which permission has been granted. The wikibio project simply won't be useful unless fellows actively participate; so I'd like to issue a challenge that each fellow contribute at least one sentence to two wikibios. I'll be on wikibreak for the next week and when I get back there will be prizes in store for the fellows who have the three highest edit counts on wikibios. Thanks. -JCarriker22:35, 17 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I was going to pull my Rfa, but a few supportors encouraged me to not do so. As it stands now, I may squeak by but I don't like having less than a 90% approval rate. It's like a dark cloud hanging over me and really takes away from my respectibility. No doubt some of my edits have been questionable. You and others that know me as a bit of a jokester understand that I can come across as rather blunt and even hostile at times, but there is never any malice behind it. As far as a future adminship for you, I think you'll absolutely suceed. You are one of the kindest contributors here and have been involved in a wide range of things and have a lot of experience from it. January is not far off and I'll be glad to nominate or at least offer my strong support as you please. Thanks again.--MONGO10:40, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, there certainly are worse articles that stand than one listing the names of the 9/11 victims. Can you link me to it?--MONGO10:56, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I would ask Tony Sidaway the same questions and if you don't know who he is, tell him I sent you to him and he also has email if you prefer that. He may have a better answer than I do. What were your motivations for such a huge task such as that. I mean, I can only imagine how stressful that must be.
Well, kudos to you man! The one emotion that detail would fill me with is anger...I think of those people that were still stuck in the towers, dealing with three options: smoke, fire or jumping a thousand feet to their deaths. I oftimes wonder, without trying to disturb your emotions, how many were still alive when the towers collapsed. What a crummy way to go, and for what? Were the "crimes" of the U.S. so egregious to deserve 9/11?...I should remind myself of the non U.S. citizens that also died in the towers as well. See what Tony has to say and I'll see if I can dig up the answer in the meantime.--MONGO11:24, 18 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I am now an administrator (with rollback even faster than before) and would like to thank you for your support on my RfA. I was very surprised at the number of votes and amount of and kind comments that I gathered. Please don't hesitate to contact me if I mess up in the use of my new powers. --GraemeL(talk)15:30, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the last three support votes or the last oppose vote count since the nomination period has expired. I really appreciate you looking out for me. How's the memorial going?--MONGO10:15, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I agree...I think that the encyclopedic merit thing just brought out a lot of folks that wanted to grind an axe...not that they didn't have valid points and I still shouldn't have been taking names off the list anyway. BTW, the gentleman that I was teasing about being a "foreigner" voted to support my nomination but I think his may not count since it came in late. Obviously if he wasn't offended in any real way I hope everyone else understands conclusively that I really was just joking! Mr Tibbs even asked him on his user talk and then he voted support...it's nice when people can see the better side of others and not take it out of context to push an agenda.--MONGO10:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, I would be honored to be nominated an Admin! Thank you. Maybe December would be a good time to nominate me. I preview A LOT now. Guess I find many mistakes when I edit, lol. I try to add edit summaries whenever I can. I have been leaving a lot of summaries lately. I still can't believe someone wants to nominate me for Admin. If I get nominated, and pass, adminship I will have to pay you back somehow. Thanks again! SWD31619:53, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect date. I'll be working hard over the next few days on quite a few articles. I'll add edit summaries like crazy for the next few days! 22 days isn't that long, I can wait. Wait a second, thats how I'm going to pay you back! It's your Birthday that day. You should see what I'm going to have in store for you! Thanks again! SWD31620:12, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Do you think you could change the "s" in your signature to a link to your talkpage? I clicked it and was surpirised to find that it didn't lead straight here. Thanks! --Celestianpowerhablamé20:34, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I really appreciate your support, especially over the past week. I was ready to hang it up and you stood by me and I really appreciate that. Never hesitate to write me if you need anything! Thanks again!--MONGO03:10, 23 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Banes. I just want to thank you very much for supporting my RfA, and to say also that I hope I'll make a good job of it. I'm supposed to be working on an assignment at the moment, and had delayed thanking people, but I'm finding the new rollback button so easy to use that I'm just keeping Wikipedia open on my browser while working on other things, and I thought I'd like to thank at least a few of my supporters while I'm here. Cheers. AnnH(talk)19:43, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Good..I didn't want your effort to have been in vain. Hey, ever think about joining WikiProject protected areas and working on South African locations? Just a thought and I is probably not well documented...if you are interested, I can show you how. Even stubs with the infobox template and a small bit of info would be helpful...here is about all the info you need to do the infobox template for Kruger National Parkfound here after a search query here shows there are over 2 hundred protected areas in South Africa alone....in the case of Kruger, the article already exists, but it hasn't been tied into the protected areas project and doesn't have the infobox template as discussed here. Well, maybe it doesn't interest you, but thought I might mention it anyway.--MONGO18:38, 30 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll go and contact the user that developed the maps used in the template so that he can maybe make one for South Africa...anyway, I am a big fan of land management stuff and it is where I go when all ealse seems to fail...few people end up arguing with you and there is little or no vandalism to deal with...it gives me peace and I end up doing something productive...I'll get back to you.
Thank you very much for your support of my RfA. Thanks, in part, to you, I am now an Administrator, and I pledge to use my newfound powers for good rather than evil. Thanks again!--Sean|Black07:17, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Nah. Hopefully it won't become an issue. If the nom fails, so be it. I think most of our trouble is a result of neither of us understanding exactly what the "problem" is that the other has... I have complete confidence that it'll sort itself out, hopefully sooner rather than later, esp. since I have developed quite a bit of respect for him in the past few months. Tomertalk16:04, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
After accepting your nomination, I added {{Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/TShilo12}} here. Hope you don't feel like I was out of line in doing so... If you look at the history, you can see I did it a bit klutzily... Fortunately for WP, such things are easily corrected. :-) Tomertalk18:29, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Daniel for the barnstar. How did your exams go? What are you planning to do next year? All these questions, my, my. --Jcw6907:06, 2 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there Banes, its SWD316! I was going over some things on the Esperanza members list and I saw where you removed your name a while back. Why? Why would you quit? SWD31602:22, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I think I get it. I think that edit was me removing you from the current memebers to members on Wikibreak when you went on wikibreak a while back. The most recent edit involving your name was you removing your name from the members on Wikibreak. So I think we just forgot to readd your name to the current members when you came back. I'll readd your name. Sorry for disturbing you. SWD31614:42, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to be back in South Africa from 26 December to 25 January. Would be great to meet up with all my fellow South African editors that I have been working with from afar. Want to try to arrange a meet-up of some sorts? User:PZFUN/signature 08:20, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
Check out the Jesus article and edit it to keep it focused on Jesus and a biographical account of Him. Watch the Jesus page to keep it focused on Him. Thank you. Scifiintel21:39, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
User:JCarriker is going to try and make a map of South Africa for you to use in the wikiproject I mentioned before...it may have a slightly differnet format, but will probably look the same. Hopefully you're up and running again...let me know what you think.--MONGO09:55, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The only difference between this image and the US and Australian images is that this one is a PNG. Other than that I tried to match the style and colors as closely as I could, which required some adjustment (wikipedia makes images darker than they otherwise appear on my monitor). I hope it is accurate enough for your needs. -JCarriker13:12, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I would encourage you to reconsider since my main reason for nominating you was so that you could use admin rollback for your reverts. If you don't know, admins can revert edits with a single click without having to go into the page history. Until you become comfortable using other admin powers, you could simply be conservative with them until you are sure you know what you are doing. :) At any rate, if you choose to accept the nomination later, feel free to put it up on WP:RFA whenever you like. Cheers --Ryan Delaneytalk14:45, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Just fyi, my RFA [16] passed when I had barely over 1,800 edits. It's good to see humility though- it means I'll be more strongly supporting your adminship when you decide to accept it. Let me know when you've changed your mind. Cheers --Ryan Delaneytalk15:03, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I know, I have had the pleasure of reverting him myself. I wish I could help you, but you will have to ask somebody else. Cheers Banes15:19, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
By one of this life's coincidences, I've just stumbled today upon this. I was looking for some inspiration, but when looking at the source, I considered it to be cheating... So feel free to inspire! :) I hope I've understood correctly your request... --Vlad16:03, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I noticed your heroic multiple reverts of the trash anon user 143.231.249.141 kept changing the Rick Renzi article, and wanted to thank you. I'd also like to suggest we dub the user "Captain Republican," because he's been deleting emberassing information about Republicans on Wikipedia and it appears that the editor is using a computer on the US House of Representatives server. My own paranoid tendency leads me to believe he's probably a page or a staffer of a Rep, but that has no justification and you can now ridicule me for it. --JMurphy17:38, 7 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Banes, for your support in my RfA - I swear, I really wasn't already an admin - but now I'll do my best as an admin to make the reality of Wikipedia rise to the level of the dream. bd2412T02:13, 8 December 2005 (UTC)<--note new "admin gold" sig :-D[reply]
Since you wanted to get an edit count for when you broke 2,000 edits, and I've been working on improving the edit counter, I ran a check on your account. Congratulations! You now have broken the mark. Here are the statistics:
Breakdown by namespace
Main (articles): 791
Article talk: 126
User: 149
User talk: 708
Project: 180
Project talk: 56
Image talk: 2
Template: 6
Overall statistics
Total edits: 2020
Minor edits: 601
Percentage of minor edits: 29% *
- percentage is always rounded down to nearest whole number percentage.
The infobox template is ready here...using the map created by User:JCarriker and the existing infobox template for the U.S., the map is only slightly larger than those of the svg format, and we can always switch out the PNG for an svg later if need be...don't forget to add a comment to the discussion pages for each article with {{Messagebox protected areas}}...now time to get to work:-)! You can, of course modify the infobox to suit the needs of South African needs, and incorporate any changes that may help make your template more suitable. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you to help you out...--MONGO04:43, 8 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for your support on my RfA. It has done very well and is currently at 67/0/2. As such, I am posting this in advance of its closure. If I can ever help with anything or if you have any comments about my actions as an admin, please let me know. Thank you once again! – NSLE(T+C+CVU)01:01, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I just assumed that I had lost face and would have to do things that would make me have to leave in order to make things work out and blah, blah, blah. Thanks for the intervention, here's a barn star for your trouble, my friend. Please let me know if I can help out in the future. karmafist04:54, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
From your comment on the vote on this stub redirect I think you may have mistaken what is being voted on there. {{New Hampshire-stub}} is a redirect to the stub template {{NewHampshire-stub}}. Only the redirect is being considered for deletion, not the template. The redirect has been nominated because it contradicts the naming guidelines for stub templates. CaerwineCaerwhine17:50, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to get some community feedback on our work, but I want to wait until you've put in whatever art information you are planning on adding. If you want, I can look around and start a small section on art, or we can PR without it. Also, do you think the literature section has been sufficiently expanded? Smmurphy(Talk)07:31, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, cool, I just don't want to lose our momentum. Overall, I'm pretty excited about the whole thing, I learned a lot, and I'm pretty happy with the article, expecially the formation and history parts. Its nice to see the process work so well. Smmurphy(Talk)17:41, 10 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I put the article up for WP:AID. I thought that might be a better route to head down instead of a peer review, with that coming after the nomination lives or dies. Hopefully you'll support the nomination, or discuss this at the article's talk page. Thanks. Harro511:28, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi again Banes! Wow, I feel real special, not 3 but 4 vandalism accounts on my user page. I still dont mind doing the RFA tomorrow! Thats right, tomorrow, your Birthday! I'll get that party started! Lol, anyways, I dont know what is going on regarding the vandalism towards me. All, I know was I thought it was Mcfly85, a different user that claims he never vandalized my page before. Just disgruntled, I guess. SWD31619:26, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
That is annoying having to deal with that on your birthday. As to what to write in there, I'm not to sure probably something like useful contributions, roll back of vandalism, edit count, that sort of thing. Anything you want to add will help! :-) SWD31620:24, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Banes, as you are probably aware, the Esperanza elections are coming up. After running for the advisory committee last time, with some degree of success, I have decided to run for the same post again. I noticed that you (graciously) voted for me last time. I hope I can count on your vote again! Working together, we can make Wikipedia a better, more inclusive place. Yours in Esperanza, JDH Owens.
I'm an administrator, and I've got you to thank for it! Thanks to your support, my RfA passed 25/0. Please don't hesitate to contact me if I can help you with anything. See you around the wiki, :-) Alhutch05:54, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
You didnt sound rude. Thanks for supporting my efforts against Mcfly85. I know Im not supposed to make any comments but I made one comment under your recent one's if you hadnt already. SWD31621:08, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
You voted for Firefox and Titoxd for Administrator General. You did not, however, vote for them for Advisory Council. If this was a mistake, you can fix your votes any time between now and December 30. If this was not a mistake, please disregard this comment. Thanks, Ral315(talk)17:01, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm.. interesting. Now, what are the odds of Mcfly85 and Rock09 editing the same articles? Mcfly85 does clean-up and Rock09 vandalizes. Seems a little too fishy for me. Do you think we should do about this? SWD31617:48, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, this made feel all right, now I dont have to go on wikibreak. We basically caught him in the act. Thanks for all your help. SWD31619:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you!
Hi Banes, thanks for your support on my recent RFA. Although I did not make admin, I'm very happy you decided to support me. I hope that I'll live up to your expectations in the future as well. SWD316talk to me04:55, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again Banes. I just wanted your honest opinion about what my user page looks like. Tell me if there's something that looks really wierd. I tried merging the "About me" section with my user page. So, hows it look? SWD316talk to me22:59, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there Banes. I took your advice and I shortened my Bio on my user page. Thanks for being honest. I tweaked the style of the page a little more and added more info under my profile. Thoughts? Anyways, I might not be as active as I am right now on Wikipedia. See, I'm now going to participate in the Professional Wrestling WikiCity. (Population: Me) The creater of the project made 6 edits, and quit in April of this year. The project is basically deserted. I'm basically starting from scratch compared to the load of wrestling info here on Wikipedia. I think Angela, a developer here on Wikipedia if I'm not mistaken, is going to give me adminship on the WikiCity so I can better patrol the area. Well, if you leave me a message on my talk page and I don't instantly respond, you know were I'll be. Cheers! SWD316talk to me06:13, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, hope you didn't think it meant that I was never going to be around here anymore. Just less often. Im a wikipediaholic, I cant stay away even when Im busy. I will visit here on a regualr basis but I am probably not going to edit as much. Hope I didn't scare you into thinking I wasn't coming back or anything. SWD316talk to me17:35, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, you previously voted to delete this article and was wondering if you'd take another look at it. I have done it all up and many users have changed their original nomination to delete to keep including the original nominator. I have removed the fancruft and moved it to a new name Oceanic Flight 815. Please take a look and if its good enough please consider changing your vote to keep.
Thank you so much for the barnstar! I really appreciate it, and even more, your kind words accompanying it. THANK YOU! It means a lot to me.
I have thought of becoming an administrator, but I have been waiting thus far until I get to be a little better known...I'm on the Welcoming Committee, so I have a chance to see a lot of sockpuppets and vandals, so I could really use the block power. What would you suggest?
As for violin peices, right now I'm working on Bach's Partita No. 2 (Movement Gigue) and Sonata No. 1 (Movement Siciliano). I really like all of Bach's solo works, and also Mozart's Violin Concerto. That's from the stuff I play. I LOVE Tchaikovsky's concerto, but I can't play it yet.
Thanks for the compliment, but I'm sure you overrate me as a violinist. You know, it's not what you play, but how well you play it. But I am working hard at it...or, I'm trying to work hard. (Trying is almost as hard as doing!) What are you playing? I'm glad to know you're a violinist. It seems like there are actually very few violinist (or musicians, for that matter) on Wikipedia, but I am meeting more.
Regarding adminship: Thanks for the vote of confidence (figuratively speaking). Before "meeting" you, I had been looking over previous RfA's, and I understand completely what you mean about people not liking to make administrators out of people who haven't been here that long.
About AfD...I sort of have been working around there, using {{d}} or {{db}}, but thanks for pointing me to the page. I wanted to work on something like that, but couldn't find it. I will definately be part of that now, too. Thanks!
And finally, about always marking my edits as minor: Weeeeell, most of my edits are minor! Right now I have my preferences set to always show them as minor, and if it is some bigger work, I forget to unclick it, usually. I'm erring on the side of minor instead of major (not musically speaking!) so that people don't get worried that I'm doing a lot of big damaging stuff. Think I should change it and err on the side of major? Don't worry about getting back to me quickly...it's Christmas Eve, right? :)--ViolinGirl♪20:34, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, okay. I will change my preferences then. Thanks for letting me know about that. And I will take your advice about where I'm editing. I had been thinking I should be more involved with the actual encyclopedia than talk page material. So, again, thanks for the advice. No, I don't have Cryptoderk's Vandal Fighter...mind explaining it to me when you get a chance? If it's anything with monobook whatever, you'll need to do some major explaining, because I can't begin to understand that! Thanks!--ViolinGirl♪18:38, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it looks a little confusing. I'm going to be busy for a little bit now, but I'll look it over more closely later, and if I'm still having trouble, I'll let you know. Thanks for your help again!--ViolinGirl♪18:50, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you asked for it and I granted it. Since Angela has made me admin, I decided to protect the Main Page of the Wikicity and created a section for a featured article and pro wrestling news. I know there wasn't to many articles but it was the best looking one there was. I know you aren't a big fan of wrestling but I thought I might fill you in on what I did, how does it look? SWD316talk to me01:30, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to thank you for your kind support on my RfA. I'll do my best to be a good administrator. If you need anything or if I ever do something I shouldn't have, please, don't hesitate to drop me a line. Izehar16:34, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Banes! I'm glad you like your new userpage layout. :) Merry Christmas to you as well, and I hope you have an enjoyable and relaxing winter break. Take care, Sango123(talk)21:07, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I got it downloaded, and it looks like the screen shot. I'm still kind of confused. When I click on something under the "Article" column, am I supposed to be able to go to the article with that click? Because I get an error message, "There was a problem sending the command to the program."--ViolinGirl♪01:12, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. No, I have Mozilla Firefox, so that's not my problem. How do I open the program in my internet browser? I think that will solve my problems. (Sorry to have to pick your brain all the time about this, but it looks like a good idea...)--ViolinGirl♪16:34, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it's working fine. I actually saw your edit to my user talk on there without ever getting the "new message" notice. The only problem is when I click on an article name or whatever, it doesn't take me to the page. Hm...maybe I will use the discussion page...thanks for your help so far...I'm beginning to figure it out.--ViolinGirl♪16:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for all your help during the busy time of the holidays. I'm heading over to the CryptoDerk's site to ask them about it. Yeah, typing it in isn't all that helpful, so I'll see if they can give me a hand. I'll drop you a line later if I need help. Thanks again!--ViolinGirl♪16:51, 26 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
PS Thanks about my welcome message. I'll fix that ASAP, too!
BTW, I didn't mention, but I took your advice (if you didn't notice) and put up the little red light, green light, yellow light thing...I see how that will work out wonderfully! Oh, and the CDVF program is working beautifully now, too! What a help!--ViolinGirl♪16:36, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Banes, I was working on CDVF today, and I noticed I was on the temp blacklist, and also, that none of my contribs were being listed in my contrib list. Am I on a temp. block that I can't see or something? I don't think I did anything wrong, except I added {{d}} to an article by User:Ron becker, who had been causing trouble. Hope I'm not in trouble...I didn't mean to do anything wrong...--ViolinGirl♪23:48, 27 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I come to you for advice. Do you think I shouldn't consider becoming an administrator if I could really only be active for about a half hour a day? I feel like it might be interfering with my violin practice...let me know what you think. --ViolinGirl♪00:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for voting for me in the Esperanza elections. I've been appointed to the Advisory Committee, thanks to your show of confidence in me. I'll do my best to make you proud, but please feel free to ask me for help at any time or to give me tips as to what you would like to do. Thanks for being an active member of Esperanza! I'll see you around. Titoxd(?!? - help us)00:36, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
SCARING ME HALF TO DEATH! I quote: "I like to edit as much as possible, but am not that bold because I am afraid of doing it wrong and annoying someone." If you keep doing things like this, I'm going to become Quite Timid! ;) I was practically ROFL after I read your comment. Thanks a lot for the barnstar. I appreciate it, and having your support. Cheers!--ViolinGirl♪20:39, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
ROFL=Rolling on the floor laughing. I hyperlinked it, but never checked what it linked to. Don't worry, I'm not at all mad at you, either. Just wanted to make sure you knew that. >GASP GASP< You're not an administrator???! Can I nominate you? You definately should be one. I thought you were all this time!--ViolinGirl♪20:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Well, just tell me when and I'll nominate you. I just can't believe you aren't one yet! All this time, I was like, "Oh, yeah, if I ever need help with something, (and I was thinking, admin-wise) I'll give Banes a message." I definately think you are qualified enough. And, here's what I would put in the nominating comment thing...eh hem!
Banes is a terrific user with about 2,300 edits. Good, communiticating user, with about 800 user talk edits and about 900 article edits. Kind, thoughtful user, and a great vandal blocker. I think the administrator tool of rollback would help this already speedy reverter to be even faster.
Sure, no problem you can join and volunteer. However, if you are going to accept the nomination suggested just one section above, it'd be better to wait one week, since you're a shoe-in... Titoxd(?!? - help us)21:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Go on ahead and sign up. You seem to know a lot about adminship procedures, and that is helpful. I'll pair you up with another administrator when I assign requests, so you'll be all right. Titoxd(?!? - help us)21:32, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Banes! I didn't know you were homeschooled...I've been homschooled all my life! Very cool! Also, can you link me to the admin coaching thing (mentioned one header above me)? I lost the link somewhere and it would be helpful if you could link me to it? Thanks!--ViolinGirl♪00:37, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the admin coaching. Should be good! I've been in ATI for several years, that's mainly what my family uses. I'm actually graduating about two years early, but I'm so confused anyway about what "grade" I'm in, it doesn't really matter. I'm using CLEP exams to get college credit early, so that's how I can be so loose about the grade system. It looks like you're doing cool stuff with your education, as well, right now...(?)--ViolinGirl♪12:03, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm getting my BA from Thomas Edison State College right now as I "finish up" high school. After that, I hope to go to a big name music school for my MM (masters of music), and then hopefully (if I can, I'm not a millionairre) a Ph.D or whatever they call an equivalent degree in music. For now,--ViolinGirl♪01:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings, Banes! I wanted to sincerely thank you for voting in my RfA, which passed with a final result of 55/14/3. Your support means a lot to me! (FYI, though: The signature I had before didn't consist of question marks, but rather of the katakana for Nightstallion. ;)) If you have any questions or input regarding my activities, be they adminly or just a "normal" user's, or if you just want to chat about anything at all, feel free to drop me a line. Cheers! —Nightstallion(?)07:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your support of my RfA; I appreciate your confidence. I'm glad you didn't find the any skeletons. Best wishes for a happy new year, Tom HarrisonTalk13:20, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Banes. Thank you for supporting my Rfa and your nice comment! :) I will try my best to be a good administrator. Please ask me if you need any help. --a.n.o.n.y.mt17:43, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks for your support on my request for adminiship, I'm sure you'll be glad to know the final result was 92/1/0. I am now an administrator and (as always) if I do anything you have issue with, please talk about it with me. --Alfmelmac09:41, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The final outcome was (80/3/0), so I am now an administrator. I was flattered by the level of support and the comments, so I'm under real pressure not to disappoint, thus if you have any queries, suggestions or problems with any of my actions as an admin then please leave me a note --pgk(talk)10:41, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Banes, just want to say thank you for supporting my RfA. I am now an admin, and if there is ever anything I can do for you please just let me know. I've never been to South Africa, but for ages I've been saying "I'd really like to go to South Africa". It's still true. Thanks again, Babajobu16:02, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds great! We should probably ask ViolinGirl whether she prefers interacting on #wikipedia-esperanza or her talk page (time zones need to be taken into account for both). I guess we could begin by analyzing edit count proportions and making suggestions on areas of improvement, ensuring she's familiar with policies and guidelines, and maybe creating "What would you do in this situation?" scenarios. But all in all, ViolinGirl is already an outstanding candidate. :) What do you think? Sango123(talk)19:18, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I eavesdropped on your conversation with Sango, and am really excited about this. If you haven't noticed, Sunday's my best day, and I can't be on a ton because of school and stuff, but I think we can work it out pretty well seomtime.--ViolinGirl♪19:56, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. RL is definately more important, but I don't mind having fun around here sometimes, too. (I did get connected to IRC...)--ViolinGirl♪20:09, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Admin coach? Anyway, Sango did good. I just happened to notice that Phaedriel voted for Rogerd right after I uploaded his nomination for admin and I sometimes check out userpages of folks I am not familiar with, noticed she is partially Native American, had a dandy userpage and so I tried to see where her interests lay as far as editing. I guess she felt I helped her enough to warrant creating the page for me......I even got chewed out by (joking) User:Aaron Brenneman[18] and she noticed that and then fixed up his userpage. And I hoped that I was the only special one...oh well!:)--MONGO12:53, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, help all you want...help is always appreciated...the bigfoot article needs a complete rewrite and there is a guy there that has his own wikipedia article on him (Erik Beckjord) that is convinced that Bigfoot travels through wormholes and or that he may be a space alien even, he also hangs out around the Loch Ness Monster article and other strange places like that...it's almost funny, and maybe a little sad...I kind of like the guy actually, even though it is certain he vandalized my userpage and has created sock accounts.--MONGO13:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Your edits to this article have been reverted: You augmented another editor's paragraphs that were written POV (some of which is pure conjecture and is unencyclopedic anyway); further, absolutely none of it is sourced. Feel free to research legitimate sources for the material and include only that which is relevant to an encyclopedia.RadioKirktalk to me13:56, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thats fine, if you noticed, my edits were only correcting some word spacing errors, I didnt add the paragraph (I thought it looked a little fancrufty to me). I am not familiar with the article and thus was not aware of whether or not the paragraph was an accepted part of the article. I only tidied it. Cheers Banes15:10, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I did notice, in fact; I probably should have typed something to the effect that your edits disappeared as part of the purge. When editing an article, if you see something that is clearly POV, conjecture, unencyclopedic and/or unsourced (to name a few), don't be afraid to purge it. :) RadioKirktalk to me15:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you were involved in this conflict, what would you have done to resolve the matter as civilly as possible?
If you had been called upon to help resolve the conflict, what do you think would have been the best course of action?
Do you think this could have been prevented? If so, how?
These are all opinion questions, but they would help ViolinGirl acquire a certain feel for potential situations where admin intervention is needed. Cheers, Sango123(talk)20:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I sincerely couldn't help but to eavesdrop on your talk with my friend Mongo ;-) I must tell you I love the design that Sango made of your user page. Someday, he and I will have to meet to talk about web page design! I couldn't help but to notice, however, a tiny flaw on its design, which you can only observe if you're using IE: the userboxes table diplayed cut in half (check out what I mean here). Therefore, I've taken the liberty of making some adjustments and enhancements to its code; kinda hard to find something to improve, as Sango had already did a magnificent job. I've tested it both in IE and Firefox, and as far as I can tell, it displays correctly at both browsers. I've placed the final version at my Sandbox; if you like it, please feel free to copy the code directly into your user page.
I must tell you I'm kinda intrigued at Esperanza, and I've decided to ask you (and you too, Dave, should you happen to read this!) exactly what is that group about. Care to share your insight with me? Take good care, Banes! Cheers, -- Phædriel*whistle*00:15, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Banes! First of all, thanks so much for the lovely gift and the kind words - if half the people at Wikipedia are as nice as you, Mongo, Sango and Aaron, I foresee myself a long season here. I'm quite in a hurry now, but I decided to drop you a line and see what I could do with your request regarding your userpage. I didn't quite understand whether you preferred a more blueish color only at the margins or at the background too, so I made two versions: this one for margins only and this other one for a full solid blue background (it hurts my eyes!). Pick any of them, or let me know if you want me to modify any of them further. Btw, Esperanza strikes me as a great initiative - perhaps someday I'll add myself to that list. I promise to write you back as soon as I can. Kisses! -- Phædriel*whistle*13:35, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks for helping out there. I thought that the 3RR didn't apply, but I wasn't sure. Thanks. (Did we decide on Sunday yet?) --ViolinGirl♪13:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've been really busy lately, so I'm not sure. If we can do it sometime near 12:30/1:00pm (my time, which is what, 7 hours difference your time?) then that would be great, since I'm going to be busy morning (church) and in the afternoon (friends), so...--ViolinGirl♪16:41, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
REALLY?! You're a Christian, too? How thrilling! :) Wow. I'm really excited now! And, yeah...I'm learning about RL. Talk more about it later, I have to go right now, but I wanted to leave a little note...--ViolinGirl♪17:00, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah. Okay, so let's see...22:30-23:00 sounds good on my side, but it doesn't have to really be just whenever I can do it...(although, I'm not sure what other time would work well.) And, yeah, if that's 18:00 UTC time then, so it is. (Although I can't promise being exactly ON TIME, per say.) And, I wouldn't ask you to work on this early in the morning like that. Have your "day of rest" at least until the evening! :) What's Sango123 thinking? Haven't checked over there in a while...(I want to be surprised on Sunday!)
And, yeah, I'm so happy to realize that you are a Christian. I should have scrolled down in your user page, but didn't...I became a Christian when I was six. Is that why you were home-schooled? That's why I am. Regarding NPOV, I agree, although I'm not going to say something I don't believe...so I'm editing more neutral topics, usually. :)
Anyway...I think that's about it. Except, IRC channel is not working and I was up until 8:45PM (which is late for me, as you know) working on it with a ChatZilla helper, and they couldn't find anything wrong with it. They thought maybe it had to do with the channel? Anyway, I think the web-version of #wikipedia-en-vandalism is going to have to be it for now, until I get that figured out. Closing out for now...--ViolinGirl♪01:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, that's great. I'm not sure now what's going on with Sango regarding the time. We'll see. And congratulations on your edit count! WOOT! and, opps, I typed alt+o, so I'm signed out, but this really is me... :) ViolinGirl
Yeah, that's totally fine. Depending on when (my family and) I eat, I'll be on sometime around 13:00 on, so whenever you get there is fine. Sounds good!--ViolinGirl♪15:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. If it still works out for you in about an hour or less, then let's keep it there. I thought my mom was going to make me eat then :) but she decided to do it earlier. Ok? So see you after lunch...--ViolinGirl♪17:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hope you're checking here. I'm on #wikipedia-esperanza, but I don't think I'm actually on. No messages coming across, yeah? Oh, so I was just reset. Don't know how long that's going to keep up. What did it say when I got reset?--ViolinGirl♪17:59, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for the coaching today. I learned a lot, and it was so fun. (Sango's papercut...LOL! I was talking to a non-wiki friend and she was like, "Oh." HA HA HA! Come on, RL, get WL! ;) ) Be talking to you tomorrow, I'm up to late...again!--ViolinGirl♪01:54, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, so how's Monday looking to you, staying up that late last night? ;) Sounds like fun, 20Q and stuff. Couple of church families were getting together, plus a baptism later in the evening, so RL took precidence again. But, yeah, yesterday was a ball! Thanks! What's a good time for you next?--ViolinGirl♪12:33, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Today was my violin lesson, so between that and other things I was busy today, too...although it's already Tuesday for you. Well, my mom said she didn't want me "scheduling a chat time" every week, so probably the weekend isn't the best. Unfortunately, with the time difference doesn't work out too well. I'm on almost every single night from 8:00P-8:30P MY TIME, and that's it every day (except Sundays, obviously...day of rest!), although I get on once in a while to check messages. But obviously, that is an INSANE hour to wake up your time, especailly since you're so undisciplined to stay up so late every night, LOL...so, anyway, I'm not sure what's going to happen. We'll see what Sango says. TTYL--ViolinGirl♪23:34, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Banes. How are you doing (RL)? Are you going to kill me because of not doing much editing lately? :P A string ensemble I'm in at LeMoyne College just started up, so I'll probably be on even less, boo hoo! :) (We're playing Edvard Grieg's Holdberg Suite...very fun! Anyway, WL: I just was over at Sango's talk page asking her about admin coaching. I know you're busy on Sunday, and I have no clue what day would be good for me besides that, so I'm kind of waiting on her for direction. Maybe just talk paging would be good this week...let me know.--ViolinGirl♪12:58, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ciao! Glad things are going well for you in RL...the film shoot sounds very neat! Hope I don't get envious...;) Are you on vacation? I don't want you to be bothered about me if you're on vacation. If you checked out Sango's message on my talk page (and it doesn't bother me in the least if you do) it looks like she can probably do it on Sunday...although I don't have insurance on paper cuts for administrators, so I'm not sure I can afford it! ;) Anyway, let's leave it at this: Sunday afternoon unless one or the other of us can't make it, including me, because I have to check with my mom. She said something about not wanting me to get online every Sunday to "chat", so...if it's okay with you (and Sango) I'd like to leave it at, unless I let you know otherwise, Sunday afternoon. Okay? Nice to hear from you again...--ViolinGirl♪20:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just noticed this. can only roll eyes in disgust at faux humility...why, you even write about yourself in the third person on your userpage!! BTW, I'm being a horrible editor tonight...all usertalk pages...I kneel and ask your forgiveness...--ViolinGirl♪00:56, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please come to the Puerto Rico page and tell that anon user why his edit was reverted. I've started a discussion and urged him to discuss it, but he jsut keeps reverting.Gator(talk)16:40, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to thank you warmly for reverting the vandalism on my userpage yesterday so speedily. I hope that one day I may be able to return the favour! For now, enjoy the cookie! JDH Owens
Erm ... she probably wouldn't have married me otherwise ;-) (and there was a lot of organizing to do). Anyway, thanks for your congratulations :-) ... and around 6 Feb would suit me fine!
Banes...I'm sorry to say that I won't be able to talk on Sunday. I've been thinking through real life recently, and I believe that Wikipedia is not what God wants me doing right now. As explained here, this doesn't mean I won't ever be on again, but unfortunately, it means I'll have to back out of admin coaching. I can't tell you have badly I feel, after all the work you've invested in me. Please don't take it personally. I'm counting on you to understand, since we're both Christians. Still friends?--ViolinGirl♪13:55, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I guess this isn't a big RL thing, but it seemed kind of big to me, and I was really worried about how you would feel. I knew you would be on now, so I had to see how you would take it. Thank you for still being my friend. Maybe once in a while I'll just drop you a note and see how you're doing, okay? Thanks so much.--ViolinGirl♪20:26, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
For being such a great friend, through it all. --ViolinGirl♪20:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply] <--I'm not just giving you that because I'm "leaving", either, Daniel. I appreciate your kindness, first to me (when we first "met"), and during admin coaching (for which makes me feel the worst about "leaving"), and during this. I really value your WikiFriendship. Who knows? Maybe if I don't accomplish my Big Dream by that time I'll be mature enough spiritually to take the vandalism content, and be back? Remember...this doesn't mean I'm leaving leaving. I'm still going to be studying for my CLEP exam (scheduled January 30, wisdom teeth out the next day, can you believe? My mom kept it from me this long!!!!), so I'm sure I'll be finding typos and wikifying while I study. What more can I say? Thanks for everything. (How did your trip go?) I changed a minor thing on your userpage...you can revert it if you want, but I don't want you to feel responsible for keeping it on your page. I don't know what you believe about spoken blessings but, may God bless you with Wisdom from on high, and power to accomplish everything that He wants you to. *shiver* Cheers!--ViolinGirl♪20:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
And how did the snoop find my blog? (and which one?) ;) Well, I don't want you to feel responsible for leaving my name up there. It was very kind of you to put up there in the first place, but I completely understand if you ever feel like removing it. I also want to say that I appreciate your understanding. Some people don't/didn't understand at first, and I'm very glad you do understand. I also understand your reasoning. (groans at using the word "understand" one more time AND using too many parenthesis) (I just don't think I a mature enough to handle the content of the vandalism at this time.) It would be great to see you at my blog sometime (whichever one it is? ;)). I'm glad you had a good trip. I was thinking about you, and felt bad this happened while you were away. (Until I remembered you were away, I was on my tin ear...Why isn't Banes responding??????!!:))
Thankfully I noticed your (at first) unsigned comment on my page before saving this one. BS you were thinking equalled "Back Soon"? or what? Clarification is needed. ;)--ViolinGirl♪21:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
BANES! Stop messaging me while I'm messaging you! I have to keep adding (and then previewing) my messages!!!! The new sig is nice, how is it in memory of me? Cheers (before you do yet another comment!!! :D)--ViolinGirl♪21:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hm, now I'm doing it to you...isn't there a way to make text show up over links? You should make some text show up, like maybe a favorite quote or "Talk to me" or something like that, when someone hovers their coursor over your links. That would be a cool username, but I'm not sure if it's possible.--ViolinGirl♪21:16, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, okay. *prepares to give away general identity, reminds herself never to do it again*...Click here, and mine is the 8th blog post from the top right now. It's my more personal blog. So, probably this will fall under the category of "Blogs Banes Considers Stupid". :D I see about the in memory thing (ha ha, I feel dead!). Thank you. Oh, well, you know me better than to think that the barnstar would mean what you first thought it meant. Don't you keep up on the barnstars? :) I think that's it for now. (We've been on for an hour, can you believe? Thank goodness it's a weekend!)--ViolinGirl♪21:30, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
See what I mean? Oh well. That was the missing link between Wikipedia and the other un-named site. If you know me from that other unnamed site, you still can't find me here unless you realize that I'm a Christian Hedonist who's a violinist. :) Hi, Daniel Hagen, nice to meet you. ;) Yeah, I agree with the political blog business, unless they write it in a way I can understand with, and ONLY if I agree with them. :DGET TO BED. (and yeah, talk on the blog, whatever, I don't care). But do get to bed. Monday is a Monday and you can't change that. Cheers!--ViolinGirl♪21:43, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I like the other spellings for words. I automattically think of "gray" as "grey", "favorite" "favourite", etc. I don't know why.
Well, my timetable is different. I'll explain in your sandbox, just so you get this and hopefully get to bed before Monday!! but...cheers for tonight...--ViolinGirl♪21:53, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Almost literally ROFL! LOL! Finished up my online stuff and went down to dinner, you know? So, I get back on, thinking, "Maybe I'll get some good writing work done today (my side hobby, but since it takes me so long, I have to really sit down and plan time for it)". So, I get on to see if anyone else is going to complain/whatever to me before I start writing. I CAN'T BELIEVE it was keeping you awake. For pity's sake, how interesting can my schooling be? LOL...*rolls eyes at Banes' insanity You better not reply! ;)Mommy's watching!--ViolinGirl♪23:36, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Banes, for your support of my RfA. If you ever need for anything, please contact me. I will do my best in my new role and welcome your feedback. NoSeptembertalk14:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! Banes, I think you need to study! :D Take me as an example. That's what I was (fruitlessly) trying to do before your little prank. (I saw your poetry. 2 hours???) See ya' later...<puts nose to the grindstone> --ViolinGirl♪17:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
BANES! I hereby name you insane! I know now why you changed your username: BaneZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz....what happens when you spend too much time online.--ViolinGirl♪17:54, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good. I will perish if I see a reply before tomorrow morning. Anyway, here's how you do it:
<small>smalltext</small> comes out smalltext
<sup>superscripttext</sup> comes out superscripttext
Oh. Well, HTML is the coolest thing since...HTML! :D You should learn some, sometime. It's so easy to pick up. Main principles: Commands are enclosed in <'s and >'s: Example: To make something bold (other than ''' :D) you do <b>, type your text, and then type </b>. Then, you just have to learn the other commands:
<i>text</i> is text
<a href="http://www.websitename.com">text you want to appear</a> doesn't work on wikipedia, but that's what you type to get to appear in normal websites
<blink>TEXT</blink> doesn't work on wikipedia, either, but it works in other HTML websites.
<span style="color:hotpink;">TEXT</span> is TEXT
You can fool around with the colors instead of "hotpink", of course...blue, red, green, etc...to find out more commands like that, just click on edit a page, and see what they type to make it happen. That's how I've picked up my level-1 HTML...LOL! The Official Snoop saw that you're making friends with Weien. Nice! Cheers!--ViolinGirl♪12:20, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's nowhere close to matching your poetic ability, but please do accept this humble haiku. Would you mind if I printed and framed yours? ;) With profuse thanks, Sango123(talk)00:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No problem (sometimes I think that a pac-man remake where you eat typos instead of those white dots would be just the thing for a Wikipedian having a bad day, but anyway)! Turns out that "Terry Prattchett" still refers to "Terry Pratchett" though, so link-wise it was alright. And yes, I am a fan of his writing (and "Terry Pratchett books in general" is a great way to say it, I daresay XD)--ever since I was introduced to the Discworld series about a year ago, I've been wishing that the local library had the entire series (of course, if they did... byebye life ^_^).
And it certainly is unfortunate that ViolinGirl will be doing less Wikipedia--my head still spins when I see "November 4, 2005: Joined Wikipedia..." @_@ (and it's only more mind-boggling when you think about the wiki-prowess she already had a month or two ago). Then again, I'm like "And this Banes fellow has only been here since July and he's already coaching people!?" Awed. ^^ Oh, and I saw your poem over at Sango's--let's just say that I'll definitely be keeping an eye on that sub-page. "no, not 'Floral'"--oh man, gotta love the execution there ;). Anyway, nice to (finally, can I say?) meet you! Weien08:37, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
This was nice, but you knew I would see it...:P Know what you should do? Put my sandbox in your watch page, so whenever I'm studying and you're on, you can mess it up for me. I'm SO extremely bored with studying, but it's $70/test, so I can't really afford to NOT pass...--ViolinGirl♪17:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
PS Looks like you got some barnstars... :P[reply]
Grr, Tom pushed his way forward in the line. Let's see if I can get through this time, here's what I wrote once already:
NO! Don't stop. Just realize I can't always come over and thank you every time... If you knew how...uh, cheering it was to have it vandalized, you wouldn't have even thought of that. (I just don't want to take too much of your time, having you vandalize. :P Maybe I should add a message at the top so serious vandal whacker's won't accidentally block you and I would have to intercede... XD) Re: poetry, thank you, that was nice of you to say. Re: barnstars, LOL...I knew you would someday! Let's see...I think that's it for now...--ViolinGirl♪18:34, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, well...if you can see I'm going to miss it (your RFA), let me know. (You probably don't need me to nominate you, do you? I'd still be happy, but whatever you want to do...maybe not since I'm sort of backing out...) If there's one person I would like to vote for, it would be you. (That wouldn't be asking for votes, would it? Since I asked you to ask me?) And as to the vandalism: I just cleaned up two red links, their mother's won't be dissapointed in them...scrounges around in trash to see if she can find them... Ah, yes, here they are: Abi-Eshuh and Ammi-Ditana...pretty puny, huh?--ViolinGirl♪18:58, 24 January 2006 (UTC) now I forgot to sign, he, he![reply]
I'm so excited about your RfA...I suspect yours will be up there with Tito's...among the top most supported nominations. You've really got a name out there, I can't wait for you to accept! *shiver* As to your editing my "latest articles"...for what, article-space edits? :P See you around...today's my teaching day, so it will be less...much to the benefit of my CLEP exam, hmmm...anyway...--ViolinGirl♪12:34, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your swift reply on my Talk Page, i will probably loose the backgrounds as a) you think i should and b) the tutorial states some users are offended by them!
Never more than idly considered it. Yes. Yes I would, but do you think I'm ready?
In case you don't want to go back to my talk page, the questions were: Might I ask why you are not an admin? Would you like to be one? Would you like me to nominate you, or would you rather somebody else did? ;)
Monday 6 February 2006 sounds ideal. I'm all of a tither! I'd better get in the queue at Admin Coaching now... Thank you! :) ➨ ❝ReDVERS❞21:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE!!! You mean Banes is not an admin yet?!?! Then what are we waiting for, Sango?? =) Nominate the man - I'll support 1.5 seconds after you do! – Phædriel♥ tell me - 21:52, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
<impersonal template> Sango123 would like to nominate you to be an administrator. Please visit Wikipedia:Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Sango123 to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Banes 2. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so. </impersonal template>
Daniel, you're on your way to one of the most supported RfA's in the history of Wikipedia...make no mistake. I voted for you even before I got your message...it must have been providence or something that I happened to check back to your RfA page right after you accepted...(four minutes after you accepted :D) Take a look at this: [19] Best wishes for your RfA (although I know you won't need them). --ViolinGirl♪15:37, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
PS...I was actually trembling as I voted, afraid someone was going to sneak in ahead of me!!! :P
Hi Banes, Sango123, Phaedriel: the page doesn't look correctly for those whose browsers have font size increased. You should be able to see what I mean by increasing the font text size in your browser. I recommend you try using font-relative specifications for the height for the divs. —Quarl(talk)2006-01-25 05:32Z
I am indebted to you, for two reasons: 1) Helping me solve me "open problem". 2) Breaking up the intense boredom of study by me being obligated to come over and thank you. XD Thanks. So much. I'm serious, I don't believe I've ever had a boreder day. :D Except for the fact of your on-going RfA. Wish you the best, you deserve it. Not sure what was going on in the oppose section? It definately is not valid. You have a head on your shoulders...I forgive Sango for starting your RfA a week from when my wisdom teeth are coming out. It's okay, even though I'll be sick and half insane, I will do my best to pull the laptop out of the bag and see the victory party begin. begin William Tell Overture....drumroll!!!!...--ViolinGirl♪20:13, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Banes, I so very much want to support your adminship, and I'm sure your going to be making an effort to improve with warning vandals. I saw your comments to ViolinGirl, 1. The serious vandals ignore them. 2. While I'm busy editing their talk page they are elsewhere vandalizing, and I'm not reverting. 3. I get annoyed because I might put up six "stop else I'll block you" templates, and as I'm not an admin, it would be an empty threat. I have on occasion asked an admin friend/an admin....to block If your adminship fails, I doubt that it will though :-D (though I voted with a weak oppose I would like to see you make it, how redundant is that? lol) I'll be more than happy to block a vandal who has exceeded his warning thresold for the day. To your 3 points, I agree with 2 very much it is tiresome and annoying but for now it is the best way to go in my opinion. Your first point is also sadly true, but sometimes you do get those vandals that get a change of heart, or just don't know any better, I've warned vandals that had a large history of vandalism, but had not been warned before, and they have said they were sorry. Most important I had not seen any vandalism from them either since the warning. Even though it is a dire task it has it's rewards! For your third point have you tried posting them at WP:AIAV or try getting on an IRC channel for vandalism and requesting the block? I know you have not asked, but I've seen you around and I think you are a great wikipedian, so I hope that you will take these tidbits of advice/info to heart and apply them. You might be surprised with the results! KnowledgeOfSelf | talk06:54, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to say also that warnings DO work. Assuming good faith until proven otherwise, or even longer, has suprised me in how it encourages editors to use good faith. Welcome them to the W'pedia, tell them why their edits aren't wanted. I'd be happy - no, eager - to support your RFA after that. --DDerby-(talk)07:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Your demeanor about this whole situation is very commendable, as for a possible withdrawal of your RfA, I'd personaly like to see it stay! I'll continue to check your contribs and to see if your warning vandals properly and efficiently. The biggest issue is of course your admited lack of unserstanding for warning vandals. I'm sure I'm not going to be the only one whose vote might change if you show that you can warn users, and comprehend the process. If I might help this link might help you understand when to warn vandals properly. Cheers. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk08:47, 26 January 2006 (UTC) :-D[reply]
Psalm 63:8
Hey, Banes, you're doing so well! Don't let the stress get to you, I kind of sense that you're having a tough time. I totally understand about this...I didn't even want you to, because of reasons previously discussed. Have a nice rest of the day...(I still can't get used to the fact that it's already 3PM, and I've just started my day....:D) --ViolinGirl♪13:08, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wow...I didn't even realize you were thinking of getting out and in what sense, I still don't know...some enlightening would be nice, but not neccesary. I don't know how God is leading you in this...maybe He wants you "out", maybe he wants you to stay, I wouldn't know. (I'm not trying to sound superficially spiritual or artificially religious when I say...) whatever He leads you to do will be best, though. I am confident of that. May He keep you in His path...(and let me know what's going on sometime, okay?)--ViolinGirl♪15:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, no, it's 200% okay. I understand about being short, since you're leaving, and everything. I understand completely...(just don't forget to still smile every so often...;)) Have a fun time, wherever you're going...Cheers!--ViolinGirl♪16:10, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Banes, I wanted to discuss the protected areas project as far as the South African articles and sent you a few links by email to help get you started. Let me know if I can be of any help.--MONGO01:27, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ich glaube du kanst deutsch gut ich hofe sehr, ich habe gesehn das du für die zustimung das der benutzer: – Cool CatTalk|@ EIN ADMINISTRATOR WERDEN SOLL ich bitte dich deine entscheidung zurck zu hollen.
der benutzer CoolCat ist ein türkische Nationalist er hat sich sehr agresiv für die Löschung der kategori Kuristan engagisiert.
Ich verstehen, aber das ist mir egal. Ich denke, dass CoolCat einer guter benutzer sind. Er sind kein Türkishen Nationalist. Banez18:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The conversation above was getting out of hand in terms of length and what not! :-D As to this warning well generally the {{subst:bv}} template is used as a first warning for users who are blatantly over the line, i.e. gross and very offensive vandalism, that deserves just 1 warning then then a block, or a legitimate request for a block. (For example please forgive my crudness: EXAMPLE BELOW!) Also it is a warning and a welcome, so it also is more of a first warning. I personaly would not have warned him after he received his "final warning". I would have listed him at AIAV, a IRC channel, or an admin's talk page. And continued to revert his vandalism until the block took place.
For an example if a user has made lets say 4 edits, all vandalism, and they range in the "Hi this place sucks" to the mundane :-P such as "People like to eat purple candy flavored kittys" those in my opinion deserve a test1 test2 and maybe an {{subst:anon}} in there if its an anon. Now an example where {bv} should be used, again forgive me, and feel free to remove these comments after you have looked at them if you wish! Lets say a user has made again 4 edits, and has not been warned, but his edits range in the hateful to the downright disgusting. Such as "Fuck gays and Jews and all the niggers in the world." To something like "I fucked a giant last night, and it was fucking great assholes." (I don't know if anyone has ever uttered that phrase until now ;-D) Anything along that lines I'd say a bv warning is a-ok :-D Cheers KnowledgeOfSelf | talk19:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that sounds about right. With regards to the "Its those sort of people (the latter ones) who I would not say "welcome to wikipedia!" to" I agree but it does come down to civility, almost along the lines of "don't insult the vandals". Its not an insult, but even convicts, gets welcomed to prison! :-D Besides that point I would also use bv to a user who blanks pages at a high speed, yet has never been warned! I stress the never been warned area! If you ever have questions or need help I'd like to let you know my talk page is open! (I hope the same goes for you :-D) KnowledgeOfSelf | talk19:28, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Banes. No need to thank the nominator; you deserve adminship. :) As for admin coaching, would you mind taking a glance over at User talk:Gryffindor#Admin coaching? I still have the Goo and Foo situation recorded, so do you want to start with that?
Thanks for the tip on how to find typos ^^. Though, I'm finding that in most pages downwards of the featured articles, there's almost always a little something of a typo or grammar "oops" here or there to munch on. Concerning poetry, yes, ViolinGirl's poem is beautiful (and can only get better ^^), but I don't know about calling yours "nonsense." My theory is that there is "poetry unto beauty," true, but also "poetry unto hilarity." And unto deep thinking, and unto tribute, etc, etc. And while a (book of) humorous poem(s) probably would have a harder time winning its writer a Nobel Prize in Literature than would, say, a large portfolio of beautiful poems, the former can more easily (and perhaps more importantly) make your friends laugh :D.
And I suspect that it'd be relatively easier to weave, say, a hidden political agenda into a funny poem XD. For example, I could easily see a poem explaining exactly why Mr. Mugabe is a buffoon ^_^ which may be the reason why some despots had all of the poets of their era executed, if I remember correctly XD
I have heard very good things about the Bromeliad trilogy, and will definitely read them as soon as time and space allow me to do so. Speaking of which--is it just an illusion that some of the good people here seem to have, erm, countless free hours with which they Wiki? That is to more plainly ask, "Where does all that time come from!?" ^_^ Hem, hem. I'm sure the answer will come to me sooner or later. Anyway, it's been great talk:ing with you! ^^ Weien08:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
to start a new header. :D Ciao! Were they able to get the fire under control last night? I got your message last night, but had to get to bed (Went to a lovely recital last night…Paavali Jumppanen[20] played Mozart) and it was already *gasp* 10:30-ish! --ViolinGirl♪15:50, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for even offering to help. (That red link ^^ you can have all yourself. I'm not interested.;)) Just knowing I haave your support and WikiFriendship is plenty for me...thanks for that. (Your RfA is looking good...)--ViolinGirl♪17:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Your disgruntled murmurings, uh...being yourself...etc...breaking up the normalacy of my lunch time? Making me refresh the page every two seconds...get the picture? :D LOL --ViolinGirl♪18:01, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Mmmmmmmmm....*evil grin in eyes*--18:04, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that would be great, although I've already made it my background (for the computer) at least for a while now. What kind of barnstar?--ViolinGirl♪20:45, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Your doing a good job warning vandals! If I may offer two suggestions, (I'll decide support, oppose, or neutral, just before the deadline! :-D) When warning a vandal that already has been warned you don't have to use a : to space the warning out.
Example:[21] and this [22] Please note that you did nothing wrong and it hurts not a thing. It's just easier right?
Example 2. [23] this warning is great except you have gone back to a test1. Even if it is a new month the user does have a history of vandalism. So I would have warned with a test2 or 3 but again nothing wrong at all! Feel free to ignore these examples as they really do not affect the efficiency of the process, or your progress for that matter. They are just suggestions! Once you understand when, how, and where to use the warning templates, it is for the most part at your discretion :-D KnowledgeOfSelf | talk17:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing. {{subst:test1}} , don't forget the subst: when warning! That substitutes, which copies the the warning directly onto the talk page.
Yes, for simple vandalism test1, test2, test3, test4 and when and if you become a admin, test5, test6, {{subst:vblock}} among others. Gross and offensive vandalism gets a bv and then a block if it continues. Page blankers get {{blanking}}, {{subst:blanking2}} {{subst:blanking3}}, and for admins {{subst:blanking4}} . If this becomes unclear just ask and I'll see if I can explain it better! As I am not much of a teacher :-P KnowledgeOfSelf | talk17:55, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes, regarding the User Page Award program for Esperanza, you have volunteered to be one of the user's to help guide this program to success! If your offer still stands please let me know, as I am working on drawing up the proposal further. Thanks! KnowledgeOfSelf | talk14:25, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.
In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)
Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! --Celestianpowerháblame16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply] Message delivered by Rune.welsh using AWB. If you wish to recieve no further messages of this ilk, please sign your name here.
Banes, I can't believe I didn't notice until now...[25] And I can't believe I made such a stupid mistake! All my life (until today) I thought it was spelled BRAHAMS...So I get out my CD of the BraHMS concerto, and to my utter embarrassment, it's BRAHMS....thanks...*runs from talk page in embarrassment*--ViolinGirl♪19:09, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nope...I'm dead serious, I always thought of him as B-R-A-H-A-M-S instead of B-R-A-H-M-S. Oh well...I still can't quite love the beginning of his violin concerto yet, so...maybe that's why. Thanks again...--ViolinGirl♪19:12, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Brahms concerto??! Wow! Weekend was...fine-ish, although the wiki is still kind of addictive, so I'm working on not being so...hooked, so to speak. Other than that...violin practice was horrible b/c of the test, which I'm afraid I'll have to postpone anyway, just out of lack of knowledge (CLEPs can be taken whenever you want to take them, in my area, but they cost about $90 ea., so I don't really just want to throw away the money like that). So, that's probably more than you wanted to know, but that's how my weekend was, yours?--ViolinGirl♪19:19, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
(Gasp! I did it again up there!!! Fixed.) Oh...what Brahms? I find him complex to understand musically right now, but I'm sure I'll get used to him after a while. Sorry about your weekend. Hope the next week is better for you.--ViolinGirl♪19:30, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, just noticed your other comment. Well, if I don't take Western Civilization I on Tuesday, then I'll try to take it in one or two weeks. :/ Then, I'm going to try to nail Western Civilization II in a month or less if I can...*sigh* We'll see...the main thing is my wisdom teeth coming out on Wed. that I'm kind of nerved up about.--ViolinGirl♪19:32, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm? Writing on Tuesday? My wisdom teeth haven't protruded from the gums yet, and only the two bottom ones are impacted, no full root system yet, (so they say) so it shouldn't be too bad, but it will be my first time under anesthesia, so I'm just ^ that much scared. :) Oh well, I'm sure I'll live...Yes, I took a peek at the userpage award thing...looks good, although people who have Ph as a friend would have an advantage...;) It okay I'm using your pic as a background (for my computer) for now?--ViolinGirl♪19:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes, I've been adding additional information and idea's to the Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award. Make sure you check them out! I've also created the judges and nomination templates. They can be renamed to a more sensible name when we are ready to use them. Until then check em out :-D {{userpageaward}} (for nominations) and {{upajudge}} (for judges of course). KnowledgeOfSelf | talk23:01, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thank you for welcoming me. I'm thinking that instead of contributing wisely to this encyclopedic effort, I may try vandalizing for a while to see if it suits my fancy. However, I'm getting my wisdom teeth taken out on Wednesday, and am trying to decide whether or not to take a CLEP exam on Tuesday, so I'm not sure what my final decision is regarding vandalism. However, I wish you all the best, and would vote on your RfA if I had an account....Cheers!--24.58.164.19401:23, 30 January 2006 (UTC):D[reply]
Voting for the positon of Regent Ñ will begin on February 5th at the voting page. All candidates should list themselves there before then. Please take the time to vote, and become more active in the Wikipediology Institute. Thanks - Pureblade | Θ04:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of mentioning that question the next time Rune, myself and you all got together....sounds good.....Essjay is going to do it. Could you come to the Esperanza channel ASAP? KnowledgeOfSelf | talk10:22, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Jy is un Swoetart =) Dankie, my deftig vriendin! Phædriel ♥ tell me
Hi, Banes. I'm stealing Phaedriel's header just because I'm too lazy to make my own. Thanks for "welcoming" me, and commenting on my blog, everything. I've decided I'm going to take the test tomorrow, so I'm going to probably be staying up late tonight cramming (and I'm serious, it really is cramming because some of the material I haven't even looked at before). But I appreciate knowing I have your prayers...yikes! I'm scared! I'll probably be on for a bit Wed. so see you then...--ViolinGirl♪00:26, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes, firstly congrats on your RfA, I know it is not over but it looks like you got it, great job! (Have a look at the comments section of your RfA...you might want to move a comment to the proper place) Regarding the UPA I like that new design as well. Unfortunately, I have a very busy morning ahead of me so I will not be able to discuss this too much for a while. I urge you to get together with Rune, and Essjay..even CP, FireFox, and Sango123. All the users who have been helping and suggesting ideas! ....I've left this comment to Sango123,sers who win the "UPA" get entered automatically into a separate contest, which will be held monthly. After every 4 contests the winners will be entered and Banes, Rune.welsh, and myself will pick that winner. After that they can no longer go for the award, they can still be a judge, if they haven't already, or if there is not enough judges signed up by the time 15 user pages are nominated. I'll be implementing all this into the UA's pages soon. I'm afraid I have not had time to insert it into the UPA pages yet. Would you work on that please? I'm thinking it should be mentioned on both pages...Wikipedia:Esperanza/Programs#User Page Award and Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award Thanks I'll be back in about 3 hours at the most! KnowledgeOfSelf | talk11:21, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure about incorporating our sigs into the award yet we were discussing it on IRC when that situation occurred ;-). You don't have to worry about adding the new "once a month" section to the UPA pages if you don't have the time. I'll get started on it in a little while if you haven't. As to adding award ideas by all means add anything you want to the award talk. I just don't want it to be mistaken as a "barnstar". :-D I'll ttyl KnowledgeOfSelf | talk14:49, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, don't worry about weird comments from Licinius, as it seems par for the course for him to be exceedingly rude and even a bit paranoid when admins and helpful users are just doing their job or trying to help out. Best to steer way clear and let the admins take care of it, rather than spending any precious time in a situation that's only going to guarantee you'll pull a few dozen hairs out. :P — Impi14:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, with campaigning like that, don't expect an offer as campaign manager when I run for president. :P Good luck with the rest of the RFA. — Impi14:38, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your prayers and wishes for me...I passed!!! It's scored like a SAT (so passing is 50), and I got a 53...I'm so relieved. Thanks for everything!--ViolinGirl♪17:37, 31 January 2006 (UTC) (At library en route to violin lesson...neato, huh? :D)[reply]
That sounds great Banes. "Capital idea" :-D. We have 15 noms and 5 judges, the award should be done soon....... can you meet me on IRC? I have a few ideas...KnowledgeOfSelf | talk18:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to drop by and say thanks for your comments on my talk page. I hope you don't end up leaving because of real-life problems too. When you said, I will be missed, you weren't joking huh? One user quit Wikipedia because I left. Anyways, I am thiking about returning ina while after my real-life problem is solved but I might remain inactive until then. Cheers! SWD316talk to me03:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid that there is no such tags (or none that I know of) that fits the description that you want. The thing is, you want one that states that no one can reuse your image. However, uploading it to Wikipedia means that your work can be distributed to anyone, as it is liscened under the GNU Free Documentation License. The only way to keep the photo to yourself, is by deleting it. If you still want to keep it, the only available tags for such works are Template:GFDL-self or Template:No rights reserved. Additional info is found at Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags. Hope that helps. Orane(t)(c)(e)05:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations! It's my pleasure to let you know that, consensus being reached, you are now an administrator. You should read the relevant policies and other pages linked to from the administrators' reading list before carrying out tasks like deletion, protection, banning users, and editing protected pages such as the Main Page. Most of what you do is easily reversible by other sysops, apart from page history merges and image deletion, so please be especially careful with those. You might find the new administrators' how-to guide helpful. Cheers! -- Cecropia15:59, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
WOOOOOT! Yay for you! I'm so glad to hear that you made it, Banes! You had a really high level of support, what did I tell you? How exciting!--ViolinGirl♪16:24, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats to you for getting the adminship despite the opposition. I hope those links were of some help. Please let me know if you need any help at all. --Deathphoenix18:58, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
YAY!!! You made it, Banes! I'm so proud of you :) You truly deserved it, and I'm sure we have all just won an awesome admin. Congratulations!!! - Phædriel♥ tell me - 23:27, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, whatever. Just thought you might not have thought of it, and I certainly have no clue right now about that anyway. Re:Chipmunk: It's not my sig...but you know why I signed that way, of course?--ViolinGirl♪11:21, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes you around? I had a few things I wanted to discuss with you about the UPA. Let me know ASAP please because I must get to sleep in a while :-D KnowledgeOfSelf | talk06:32, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Banes! I noticed you added some things to your user page. Unfortunately, you can see the letters pass the boundary of the design.
Just to let you know that if you adjust the height value you can get around this problem! I've already fixed it for now, but if you happen to modify your user page again, you can take a look at the diff and see what I changed. FetofsHello!10:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Woot for you! That's terrific! Yeah, I'm fine. I lived through the anesthesia, and now am just dealing with the swelling...(thus the nickname, Chipmunk Cheeks). No joke, it really looks like I'm holding two lifesavers in my cheeks...:D Other than that, and occasionally some pain (to remind me to re-apply the ice), I'm doing fine. What's up with you? Enjoying your new buttons?--ViolinGirl♪18:43, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oohh, that sounds like fun. *sigh* I love kayaking...only did it once or twice, but I really enjoyed it. It's only about 7C (I think...45F) here...which is warm for a Febuary day. Actually, no snow on the ground, and I imagine that's some sort of record, because we've gotten snow on Mother's Day before here! I can only imagine the nice weather where you are. Ha ha! Have a nice rest-of-the day!--ViolinGirl♪19:20, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! I'm an eavesdropper too. ;) As for coaching, I think we should give the user subpage a try since it allows the coachee to respond in a more thorough, thought-out manner. But if progress seems too slow, then IRC it is. What are your thoughts? Cheers, Sango123(talk)21:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Banes/The whole lot, thanks for participating in my RfA discussion. Unfortunately, my fellow Wikipedians have decided at this time that I am not suitable to take on this additional responsibility, as the RfA failed with a result of 66/27/5 (71.0% support). If you voted in support of my request, thank you! If you decided to oppose me at this time, then I hope that if I do choose to reapply in the future, the effort I will make in the meantime to improve and expand my contributions to Wikipedia may persuade you to reconsider your position. All the best, Prototc10:33, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
(Edit conflict:) Sounds good, I left Rune a message with all that we talked about yesterday. He's been very busy from what I understood from him, so we should go ahead and make the changes we think should be made. If you'd like we can do it now I'm in the Esperanza channel. :-D KnowledgeOfSelf | talk10:36, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, this is perhaps a bit overdue, but thank-you for your support in my recent RfA! I passed with a final vote count consensus of (82/1/0), which was a lot of support that I really appreciate. I'll try to live up to the expectations; and on that note, if there's ever something I do wrong (or don't do right), please spit in my general direction. Cheers! --PeruvianLlama(spit)05:31, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I missed out I had to run.(I wonder if you got onto IRC with Rune) I've left a message on the UPA's talk page feel free to add any comments if you like. I've also added my congrats to Essjay: If I may jump into your conversation with FireFox, I don't see anything wrong either. I've blocked about 10 IP's with no warning, (It was a vandal who kept switching IPs, the range was so huge a range block was out of the question IMO.) KnowledgeOfSelf | talk17:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC) :-D[reply]
Well, that's no problem. You won't get in trouble, but you seem to be showing some development of admin-rogueness (which is always good). If it was me, I would have warned them with test4, seeing as the IP kept changing so there isn't a huge need to block each one. Keep up the good work, and congratulations by the way! — FireFox • T • 17:34, 4 February 2006
Well...we're getting your desire for weather right now...rain! :) Actually, this is very unusual for us in January. I'm not sure if I mentioned previously, but we have gotten snow on Mother's Day before...snowless is very strange, but I'm enjoying it. I don't know the exact stats for the amount of know we get/year, but we've been quoted as being the snowiest city in the United States. You said, "I still dont know what was going on in my page history..." Me, neither! :) As to RL...I'm doing fine (better!)...yesterday was my worst day, but I'm feeling a lot better today. (I even had a donut today! WOoooot!) How are you doing?--ViolinGirl♪23:32, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wow...now that IS spooky! *shiver* Praise the Lord for your safety! The only main thing going on with me is listening to this on a CD with my brother while working around online on misc. things. I'm seeing how well I can get around without a mouse...for some reason, mine's not working, and I don't feel like rebooting to fix it. ;) >grin< Cheers!--ViolinGirl♪19:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If I was without a keyboard, I would be totally lost. I live on keyboard shortcuts. Eventually, though, I did have to reboot because I have Windows Media Player set up to stay on the top of all other windows, and I couldn't remember how to get it down to skin-size. :D My keyboard only starts messing up after lunch sometimes. :D The new article is...not "coming". I'm the kind of writer that writes a full six-paragraph sentence and then deletes the whole thing starting over again. Since I couldn't practice yesterday, I finally got two REALLY long e-mails written which had been hanging over my head about a week (long time in cyberspace, you know). Anyway...cheers!--ViolinGirl♪20:48, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, what a great idea...downloading rain! Look, if you find a link, PLEASE give it to me. A sound machine is something I'd really like to get sometime, and downloading rain sounds like a great idea! (Well, rain isn't better than Bach, but it is pretty, I'll grant you that! ;)) Re:article thieves: I'm actually hoping someone will help me with it. Maybe someone who is a hedonist (and understands it) can help me...that's partly why I posted it up there. Ciao!--ViolinGirl♪21:03, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon the intrusion, Banes, sir, but for downloading rain... if Google can't help you, I think a good place to look is in the audio CD selection at your local library (or maybe at the library of a nearby college)--sometimes they have really great sound effect collections (we're talking a whole row of CD's with tracks that might be anywhere from 5-15 minutes long ^^). As for this article; I was wondering when that'd pop up! XD But more on that at someone else's talk page. Weien03:51, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wassssuuuup! Sorry about this self-impossed absence, dear Banes - but I see your request was properly addressed by Sango in a matter of minutes. Maybe we're spoiling you! ;) Thanks so much for the beautiful words and the wonderful pic - you really, really touched me. Anyways, what's truly important is that you're doing fine, and that I'm back full time, hopefully for a while. Btw, congratulations on the great success of the Esperanza userpage award, to you, KoS and Rune - with people like you guys at Esperanza, I'm sure the project will only get greater and greater as time passes. I'm glad to have collaborated at least a little bit with a few nominations - including the winner! ;) Kisses, Phædriel ♥ tell me - 01:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes, I'll see what I can do about writing that article <raises eye brow> Care to look and see if this is understandable, and more importantly acceptable lol. [26]
The "dispute part" you are talking about is "If you see that two editors are in a heated discussion concerning an article you are not familiar with, and you see that something should be done to calm things down. (i.e. preventing a violation of the WP:3RR or WP:NPA) How would you mediate?" If so what link do you think should be removed? KnowledgeOfSelf | talk18:37, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Grazie for stopping by! Oh, and sorry about not responding to your other comment -_- --back when we were talking about poetry, that is. But to finish off that discussion, I was just thinking about 'political' poetry the other day, and how it go beyond biting, to being moving. For one, several months ago I started a poem about the Rwandan Genocide, after watching Hotel Rwanda. Though, I only managed one verse to date; hopefully I'll be able to finish it before long. I guess we'll just have to see ^^.
Oh, and many congratulations on admin-ship! I was wondering if I should vote, but feared the possibility of a relatively non-credible user's vote having the opposite effect, sorta to the "meatpuppet" effect. But more importantly (since I'm sure a "haven't known him for long, but..." vote would've been fine :D), there were plenty of supports all along ^_^. So yes. Three "Cheers!" Weien07:20, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Banes. I saw the "shindig" annoucement on Wikipedia:Esperanza. But thanks for inviting me anyway. Thanks, even more, for caring enough to re-read my statement, and coming back 20 minutes later to revise your message. It means a lot to me (both that you invited me, and even more that you tacked an addendum to it). This still isn't easy for me...I'm still struggling to "give up" wikipedia, (even though I still am on, if you know what I mean). I'm not sure what God is trying to teach me through all this, but I have a feeling it has something to do with trusting him to give me the friends that are His perfect best for me...because right now, I honestly have no RL close friends...at least, no RL friends that I see often enough to really count. I guess maybe God is using this to cast me full on him...God "grinding me to powder" so I will "fall on this Stone (Jesus Christ)". [28] Anyway...I guess that was a little RL-ish for Wiki...but I hope you understand. Thanks for supporting me in this.
Mm, too bad that won't work for you (library). And, rhyming dictionary...I think somewhere in my archivessomeone mentioned one online? You may want to check there, I don't have time to scrounge around for the actual link for you this second, but I'm pretty sure there's one in there. Re:CLEP: Either 2.14.06 or 2.21.06-I haven't decided yet, I'm not sure when I'll be ready. Thanks for asking, I appreciate it. Have a nice day!--ViolinGirl♪15:58, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
LOL, don't worry about it. Hey, it wasn't as bad as this...:D That Google toolbar does it all...(seriously, it has a spell-checker, so you can double check anything in a web form before you submit it. I use it all the time.)--ViolinGirl♪12:26, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
hi Banes, thanks for setting up that scenario :-) I replied on the page, but you probably have it on your watchpage anyways.... Gryffindor14:05, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes, the results are tallied, and I've emailed you and Rune.welsh. Leave a note on my talk page when you want to put the scores up. I've gone ahead and archived last week's scores. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk01:33, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We noticed that you reverted all webpages that we have previously updated (IP 210.84.41.77).
We do not understand the reasons for such a decision. Please note that:
1) all submitted resources are NOT spammy links but relevant webpages containing listing of accreditated universities/colleges ranked by web popularity in each country.
2) 4icu.org is a reputable international education directory selecting and reviewing world-wide Universities and Colleges. 4icu.org includes 7000 Colleges and Universities ranked by popularity in 200 countries.
3) each university/college included in our database is reviewed according to the information directly received by many of the institutions included and through an "Error report" option available to all visitors.
4) we continuosly update and upgrade our database by contacting all Universities included and though the above mentioned "Error report form".
5) we do not include affiliation links or open universities. To guarantee the quality of our database we include accredited universities only in accordance with the International University Association (UNESCO) information and guidelines (see http://www.unesco.org/iau/) and other national accreditation institutions.
6) 4icu.org is extensively linked by many reputable organisations.
7) 4icu.org is the parent website of other two reputable website available at 4icj.com and 4imn.com
We kindly ask you to review your decision and reinstate the previous submissions.
We look forward to receiving a brief reply on this matter.
Please do not hesitate to contact us, should you require further information on the 4icu.org directory.
Thanks,
Fabio Fatuzzo
(answering our anon) I noticed when the List of universities in South Africa page was updated. I checked the references - there were a mere 30 universities linked, considerably less than the number already on that page, therefore adding nothing. I checked the contributions from the IP, and saw a consistent pattern of visiting Lists of Universities, and adding (admittedly contextual) similar links - pages with adverts, encouraging the visitor to 'add another university'. Please check What wikipedia is Not. In summary, your (210.84.41.77) link added nothing of value to the page, and there was a consistent pattern of the same to many other pages. Wizzy…☎07:13, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Andy,
Thank you for your reply. I take the time to inform you about a few points which might help you to better revise your decision:
Moreover, we do not include open universities, minor higher education institutions or organisations which are not officially accredited by the National Bodies of each country (e.g. South African National bodies: http://www.unesco.org/iau/onlinedatabases/systems_data/za.rtf).
The listing provided by the International Association of Universities is a good starting point to learn which higher education organisations are accredited and, therefore, REPUTABLE.
The quantity of links is not a good indicator of the quality of a webpage or the links included.
2) All links available in our listing webpages (e.g. http://www.4icu.org/za/) lead - when clicking on them - to a webpage with a review for each university. The review includes some information directly collected from those Universities which have replied to our Update requests (please see our previous emails). The links do not lead to the University websites only.
This should add some value to the Wikipedia listing. An Error report form is available for any visitor who wants to report additional information or incorrect information. Most of the time, we receive these type of reports directly from representatives or students/alumni of the universities.
3) Our directory includes about 6600 universities around the world (see http://www.4icu.org/reviews/index0002.htm for a listing by name). Currently the only country listing which does not include any university is Afghanistan http://www.4icu.org/af/ where, unfortunately, the technological situation probably does not consent to establish an internet presence. Our database does include Afghanistan universities but we prefer to publish only those organizations with a website and internet presence. However, for each country, we include an option "ADD A UNIVERSITY" to let visitors suggest - free of charge - additional higher education resources. No registration is required and all personal data are collected according to our privacy policy.
4) All universities are ranked by web popularity. This is an approximate indicator of the relative popularity of each higher education organisation within a country. This help international students who want to study abroad - and might not have a good insider knowledge of the major higher education organisations available in each country - to choose a popular university. This ranking is a unique feature of our website and do add some value to the Wikipedia listing.
5) Our directory has Google Page rank of 6 and an Alexa Traffic Rank of 332,000. These figures do not justify a "spamming need".
6) Our directory is open and free of charge to visitors and to the included organisations. Adverts are the only source of income which can help to update and maintain the site. I am not sure whether Wikipedia includes external links to non-profit sites only. We do not include affiliation links or receive sponsorships by the higher education organisations included.
Should you consider the above considerations sufficient to reinstate the external links as useful additional resources to the wikipedia webpages, I would be glad to submitt them again in accordance with the Wikipedia policy.
I would also be happy to contact you or any Wikipedia supervisor by phone to better illustrate the above points.
I await for your reply and thank you for your time.
Kind regards,
Fabio Fatuzzo
www.33ff.com
(currently enrolled as MBA student at the UTS uts.edu.au )
(Banes, we will use your talk page for this discussion, thanks). Fabio, There are some guidelines on wikipedia regarding External links.
I confess point 5d is what made me ask Banes to revert all your links.
In summary, I did review your directory the first time, and if you had added it to justList of universities in South Africa, it might have squeaked through (but see my reservations above). However, the mass adding is not something we can condone. Wikipedia is an important, reviewed, resource, and is subject to many attempts of bringing other web pages to a wider audience (as you are doing).
I appreciate the reviewed nature of your links, I especially appreciate your courtesy in asking for consideration, but you must also see things from the project's perspective.
I suggest :-
Using a logged in account
Maybe moving this entire discussion to your talk page (If you had had a talk page, I would have looked at it first before asking for reversion of your additions). This will give others perspective, as they will surely see your pattern as well.
Add links more slowly, and comment them appropriately (I think your previous comments were fine)
A comment on the talk page supporting your position
However, you still fail on item 9 above, and I cannot guarantee you success long-term.
Hello Banes are you around? If so could you meet me in IRC, between 15:00 and 19:00 UTC? I'd like to post the winners and find a way to integrate the templates Rune created. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk13:41, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes, I’ve been working on trying to integrate those new templates into the UPA page. I've rearranged a few things, but something still doesn't seem right. I think it's the award template and one of the new ones, they are side by side, and don't interact very well. Thoughts, changes, and criticism are more than welcome :-D. [29]. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk10:30, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry that was funny (damn the coffee), I agree, and I'm hoping that with the new template, we can get a new date and set time to start the project...Since Rune is next up for the overseer job, and you're next up for the spam :-P I have an easy week ahead of me! It's Friday morning, so a little later today I'm going to add this weeks scores to the archives, and then mark tomorrow as the next start date.
On 20:01, 6 February 2006 you blocked User:Skull 'n' Femurs for 24 for "personal attacks, edit warring, and pov issues." Please review users recent contribution history, especially [30] after I wrote him [31]. I believe a stern warning would be appropriate, and another block premature, but I leave that to your decision. Hipocrite - «Talk»14:45, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No rush. Don't feel pressured to do anything untill you are 100% - ask whoever for assistance, or just dodge it entirely - I think what you did was more than adequate. Give him a cooldown period, I think. As long as it's only me he's attacking, it'll be fine, because I've turned over my new "unanonyable" and "I can fix it later" leaves. Hipocrite - «Talk»15:01, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's not really clear on the 3rr thing. Honestly, I think that he may have violated it, but it's very edge-casey. I also may have violated it, but I thought what I was fixing edit conflict errors (actually, it was just bad-faith editing on his part, but whatever). I just can't be bothered right now. I'll fix the article in user space and move it over later. Hipocrite - «Talk»15:36, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm actually in agreement. He doesn't care about wiki policy, Hip and I seem to agree on some of the changes (regarding emphasis use of italics) All SnF is doing is reverting with no care for what other changes get stepped on. After numerous issues with the user, I can no longer assume good faith.--Vidkun15:38, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Dan, don't mention it ... 80 times! ;) No thanks are necessary when it comes to help a friend, hun, so forget about it. I see our dear sango has already helped with the userboxes border, but although your other request seems possible, it's not something I would do in a couple of minutes - would you mind giving me a day or so to experiment, please? In all truth, I have a tremendous backlog for userpage designs (I think I won't take more requests for the moment), and every time I feel like actually writing or creating something encyclopedical, I get the feeling I'll never be able to get started :( You and my other friends, however, will always have the priority ;) I'll show you the results of my experiments later, hun, kisses! Phædriel ♥ tell me - 21:27, 9 February 2006 (UTC) PS. you never told me if I had written that dedication in Afrikaans right - did I? :)[reply]
Thank you. In any case feel free to revert any of my changes if you don't agree with them (sp. on things we haven't discussed). I was supposed to discuss the use of the template with KoS yesterday on IRC but couldn't make it at the end. -- RuneWelsh | ταλκ18:59, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. I recently got a note that I am blocked for vandalism. Is this just another case of an AOL user being blocked with many others who share the same IP? -- Andrew Parodi10:03, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
About the block -- Thanks for the response. No, I'm not blocked anymore. It's always a bit of a shock to get that "you are blocked" notice and not know why. Then I remember that people on AOL are more prone to this. Thanks again. -- Andrew Parodi11:58, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the response. By the way, I checked out your Wiki homepage. Pretty impressive that you're an administrator and are only 17. You seem really smart. -- Andrew Parodi09:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
12? That's pretty amazing. You young folk make me feel so stupid. :) But that's the cool thing about Wikipedia -- you can find people with something interesting to say on this site. On the rest of the Internet that can be more of a challenge. -- Andrew Parodi10:50, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. For the most part, people are nice here. I've had a few difficult situations, but I got past them. And it is nice to finally find a place where people are willing to talk about interesting/intellectual things. I had to learn the hard way that most of the Internet is not geared toward that. -- Andrew Parodi11:04, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes, thanks to the coaches and the coachee, session one of admin coaching went really well; we even have some theft! :D As for session two, I was thinking of getting practice with the test templates (e.g., Foo submits a copyvio; what warning should you use?) Your thoughts? Sango123(talk)18:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Daniel, how have you been? Just dropping by to say hi...what's up with you? Hope everything's going well...this not resolved yet? I'm doing okay, normal stuff...juggling violin practice and school is NOT easy...but other than that...anyway, just wanted to say hi! Talk to you later...--ViolinGirl♪20:30, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Was your dropping by about the random page? 'Cause if so, I did notice, and replied...I think it's somewhere ^^up there. No worries, though. Too bad about RL stress. I hear ya'. Thankfully, the pull of the internet isn't so strong as it was even a week ago, so it's becoming easier for me to practice/study weekdays. (Today's my day off, it always is.) I peeked at the Beck Depression Inventory thing...that's WEIRD. Strange. Can't people tell if they are depressed or not? Hmm...I'm VERY upbeat, almost all the time. My mom says, "You live up here and only occasionally stoop to here <using corresponding hand motions to illustrate her point>." Yeah, the wisdom teeth are "practically perfect in every way" now. I got out the stitches last Wednesday, what a relief! I'm convinced that the surgeon sewed my cheek to my gums, because as soon as they were out, I could smile easier...seriously! And re:violin practice...oh, yeah, strings...they are something else. I'm VERY persuaded that my violin was mad at me for the wisdom teeth experience, because when I got back practicing, I was tuning up, and she (yes, my violin's a she) dropped instantly. Normally she's very easy-going, but she got temper mental with my lack of practice, I do believe. Ah well...randomness is good.--ViolinGirl♪20:53, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, just saw your other message. No, not the fourteenth...Thursday and Friday I focused ALL DAY on practicing, forgetting about studying, and Saturday, I went shopping with my brother and mom, so...I'm going to have to see if I can make it for the 21st instead...yikes!--ViolinGirl♪20:55, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. I forget about my watchlist often, actually, and no, it's not watchlisted. My violin is a Chinese violin, I think the luthier's name is Yuan Ji...it's really just a student's violin, I'd like a German or Italian violin, but that will come with time, I'm sure. :) Her name is Heather. ;) Piano, too, that's nice! Trisdee was advising me regarding concertos, but I have yet to pick one up yet.--ViolinGirl♪21:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Debussy, unfortunately, is not a favorite of mine. :P I only played the Cathedral because it was my last piano recital (with my teacher, e.i., last lesson, etc) and she really wanted me to play it. ::rolls eyes:: Also...are you proud of my userboxes, now? I can't believe the fights that have been going on in reference to the userboxes!!!--ViolinGirl♪21:16, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's nice that your brother's a professional pianist! Piano is okay, but violin has really expanded my understanding of it. You said, "I'm not a huge fan of userboxes myself." Oh, really? I couldn't tell. :) Your userbox at the top kind of gives it away. --ViolinGirl♪21:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks...I just don't want to be rude. Yeah, I have to be going, too. Nice talking to you today. Talk to you some other time...God bless, and yeah...I'll try my best for the test! Hope RL gets straightened out for you.--ViolinGirl♪21:38, 12 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".
The other major notice I need to tell you about is the upcoming Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. These will take place from 12:00 UTC on February 20th to 11:59 UTC on February 27th. The official handing-over will take place the following day. Candidates are able to volunteer any time before the 20th, so long as they are already listed on the members list. Anyone currently listed on the memberlist can vote. In a change since last time, if you have already been a member of the leadership, you may run again. Due to the neutrality precident, I will not vote for anyone.
Hello Banes, thank you for you support in my RfA. I was promoted with a final count of 48/1/0! If you see me making any mistakes, let me know ASAP. -- WB02:33, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Saw your random info, and just wondered if you'd come across this test. Seems bit more reliable than some of the other online tests. I'd be interested to know what you get in that one if you decide to take it. Petros47122:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, yeh I've also taken a few different ones with rather varying results! Think I got 124 on that one (whatever the mark was to just be 'eligible' for membership (and pay them money!). You've obviously got some good brains inside you, even if IQ is a flawed measure ;) Petros47122:39, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, long time no see. I hope you are doing well and had a nice Valentine's. I just wanted to let you know that we just got the 15 nominations for the UPA (finally!) so now you can go ahead and spam the judges into oblivion :D Cheers! -- RuneWelsh | ταλκ22:45, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely no problem. I also keep forgetting that you're one timezone ahead of me. I didn't get your second question, but it doesn't matter: we can talk about it tomorrow. Good night! -- RuneWelsh | ταλκ22:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Win some, lose some :-) But it hasn't even started yet, one advantage is that my page is used mostly to help newcomers, and his is self-promotion! εγκυκλοπαίδεια*23:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Hello Banes/The whole lot, and thank you for your support in my request for adminship! It passed with a final count of 98/2/0. If there is anything I can do to help you, please leave me a message on my talk page! -- xaosfluxTalk
Thank you very much for your nomination for and support during my recent Admin election, I appreciate the trust that you have put in me. Please contact me if you have any questions, comments or concerns regarding my work as an admin.
I know it's your job now ;-) but thanks anyway for blocking 202.89.188.147. Whenever I report someone on AIV I'm always wondering how long will it take for someone to get there, and how much damage will that vandal do before then! Petros47112:49, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Btw, your usepage 'wikistressmeter' has shown you as pretty stressed for a long time now. Are you? Or just been too lazy to update it :O ? Petros47112:55, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Banes, I think you forgot to switch the UPA overseer, on the upajudge template. I've recieved email :-P. I'm going to go around and try and smooth this out lol. ttyl KnowledgeOfSelf21:59, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for spamming me! I'm flattered! And, how sweet! A rose! Hope your Valentine's Day was terrific...
BTW, an update...my testing center called and told me that they can't schedule my test 2.21.06, but it has to be 2.23.06-I'm obviously not that terribly disappointed! ;) Studying seems to be going better than before (with other tests), but violin practice is drooping some...so...I'm hoping to do better this week. Ah, well...hope your life is going well. (We went from grass to about a foot of snow! <whatever that is in metric...> *sigh*)--ViolinGirl♪19:03, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, and last weekend it was near-electrocution. God is gracious!! We, too, had a power outage yesterday, actually. The wind was really strong, trees were falling down all over the place (thankfully, none on our property)...we were out for about, oh...six hours? Something like that. We have a generator, though, so it wasn't too bad. Besides, it forced me to practice some, too. Nice for you re:rain. I love rain. Beautiful.--ViolinGirl♪19:35, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The best rain is when it's warm AND raining. It's so incredible right before a storm, when the sky is all dark, and there's a break in the clouds, and the sun is shining on the trees or whatever. *sigh*...beautiful.
I think the storm is mainly over, but I agree...the wind is impressive. I love it, so inspiring. So inspiring I tried some more lame poetry, but I'm so disgusted with it, I privated it on my xanga...:P (not that I'm that keen on xanga, it's just the outlet I use for poetry). Speaking of work (you said you were doing all your work on your computer), what exactly are you after in your schooling? You want to become a lawyer, or what?--ViolinGirl♪20:07, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Xanga is a blog thing. But yeah, I'm not giving you the link ;) because I even had to warn today: "Please don't laugh. I'm trying to write a hymn, and this just isn't coming together. Some of it I don't like because I sacrificed meaning for meter/rhyme...some of it sounds just plain stupid..." That's really neat, about becoming a pilot/lawyer. I love to fly...don't get to very often, but it's one of my favorite things to do. The RUSH it gives...neat.--ViolinGirl♪20:31, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Same here re:only two lines. I was actually able to incorporate them into the poem in question of mine, and it turned out better, but the last stanzas were...pure stupidity. :) Ah, well...my inspiration comes at 21:00 (an equivalent to 01:00 in your sleeping needs ;)), so I always end up scrambling them down in the dark and destroying them in the morning. Anyway...I have a ton of stuff I want to try writing today before plunging into school tomorrow, so I should go...hope the rest of your weekend is marvelous...I don't want to hear about any more life-threatening experiences next weekend, okay? :D--ViolinGirl♪20:52, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Like another what? Ah, it's 1:45 your time, I doubt if you'll be replying...:D you better not be, anyway! Hope you have a nice Monday, maybe I'll talk to you on Sunday.--ViolinGirl♪23:46, 19 February 2006 (UTC) Actually, more logically will be after my test...YIIIIIKES! :/[reply]
Thanks Banes... I'm speechless! Your kind words really made my day! The heading You are too liberal with your blocks in the ToC made me think you were another IP with one of these messages though. :) Does this count as an irksome vandal? :D Regards, Sango123(talk)18:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your support of my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA ultimately succeeded with a final consensus of 52/1/0, so I am now an administrator. If you ever have any comments regarding my editing, or I can help you at any point in the future, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you!
This proposed merger has been posted for quite some time and agreement to merge is 3-0. I have merged all the material into the main article and notice has been posted to the Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. Please explain why you are contradicting the unanimous vote? Jtmichcock12:01, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, I saw the mass removal and pressed rollback, I immedietly tried to stop when I realized, but it reverted anyway. I went back and did a self revert straight away, but I think you edit-conflicted me. My mistake entirely. Banez12:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
After seeing the text missing earlier today, and then going onto my laptop (with a bigger screen) and finding the boxes way too big, I thought there had to be a better way. So I had a little play with your userpage (using preview)- you happy for me to go ahead and make some changes to it? What I would do is get rid of the height attribute to your content boxes, meaning that the will expand to whatever size needed to fit the contents automatically. --Petros47118:38, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there Banes: Thanks so much for supporting me in the Esperanza elections. It means a lot to get some votes from great Wikipedians, and you're not exception. Even though I'm a bit down in the count right now, there's still a lot of time left. Thanks! Cheers, Bratschetalk23:13, 21 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for praying for me for my test. I appreciate it! Unfortunately, I didn't pass...what a let down! Anyway, I just got home from LeMoyne string ensemble, and it's 21:25, I'm supposed to be asleep at 20:30, and waking is at 05:00...so maybe I'll catch you later, fill you in on the (crazy) details of my life. :) --ViolinGirl♪02:26, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
With apologies for the impersonal AWB-ness of the message...
Thanks for your support on my recent request for adminship. It passed at 91/1/0, and I hope I can continue to deserve the community's trust. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help you, and if I make a mistake be sure to tell me. My talk page is always open. (ESkog)(Talk)02:41, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Your presence is requested at the Steven Levitt deletion discussion. Wikipedia needs to be streamlined, and we can't possibly document every godless crackpot who comes up with some inane "theory". By creating articles on people who are out of touch with American values, we only give them a platform to preach their otherwise non-notable message from. Thanks for your time. :)
You should know just from the headline eh? :) I'd like to discuss the UPA ASAP I think something needs to be done and someone gave a great idea I'd like to know what you think. Say between 9:00 and 14:00 UTC? KnowledgeOfSelf09:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
P.S. More power to you!! :)[reply]
Inspiration and randomness are often interconnected. I really did like the poem. (Polite? What's that?) ;) And thanks! Blue and gray are my favorite colors, though green's nice too. :) Cheers, Sango123(e)19:29, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, coaches. As you can see, there is a significant backlog at the Esperanza Admin Coaching program. Since we do not want users to have to wait forever to get assigned, I'm asking all of you for a status report. If you feel that you are done, that your coachee is not active enough, or that you could handle the extra load from another coachee, please tell me in my talk page as soon as possible. Thanks! Titoxd(?!? - help us)06:42, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Banes. Although we still need to work with Gryffindor a bit, s/he has already proven to a capable coachee, so would you like to help out with another user? [36]:) Thanks, Sango123(e)00:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We will miss you terribly. The whole channel may fall apart in your absence. (I know Titoxd is doing the assigning...I'm just trolling for coaches. hehe. ) pschemp | talk07:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On another note, my user space was vanadlized for the first time this evening. [37] The vandal even updated my vandal count. Wasn't that nice of him? :) Essjay says that now I have arrived. I'm so proud. Oh, and how was the braai? pschemp | talk07:36, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Daniel...glad to hear you lived through the weekend. No, I'm not studying (study only from Mon-Sat, when I must :P). Next CLEP is Social Sciences and History...NOT looking forward to it, but I'm not sure when I'll plan on taking it either.
How are you doing, besides living through the weekend? I'm doing pretty well, although I have several issues going on in my mind (see this for a partial list)...it seems like I'm constantly fighting the flesh (laziness), and I'm tired of that. Ah, but that is getting RL-ish again, and is also making it sound worse than it really is. :/ So...yes, in general, I'm doing well. Sounds like you're keeping WikiBusy...--ViolinGirl♪20:27, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
hi Banes, thanks for your help. sorry about my belated reply, I have been having major issues with my internet, but it's been fixed now. I've posted my replies, thanks. Gryffindor14:14, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that sounds like a good idea. We haven't been assigned to a help out a new coachee yet, but I'll be sure to e-mail you once that occurs. :) Have an enjoyable WikiBreak. All the best, Sango123(e)00:43, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Before I left, I wanted to thank you for your support in the Esperanza elections and for your comment on my user page. Moeε04:38, 28 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes! I wish to say thanks for your vote at the Esperanza elections.
I've made my way into the Advisory Committee, so if you ever need any help or have any queries about the stuff we do, please do not hesitate to ask. Thanks again, KnowledgeOfSelf09:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Banes! A note from me too, thanks for your vote! Like KnowledgeOfSelf said, please let us know if there's anything we can do for you! You know where to find me :-) --JoanneB18:06, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for voting on my RfA, it passed with a final tally of 68/0/0 so I'm now an administrator. If there's anything I can do to help, you feel I've done something wrong, or there's just something you want to tell, don't hesitate to use my talk page. Thanks. - Bobet10:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Banes...glad to hear from you. I am about to close down shop here but will get back to you later...you'll be long asleep, but will post all I have to your usertalk so you can get busy tomorrow...surf around in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected areas and I see there is a handy map and template all ready to go...[38]--MONGO17:08, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Did you need any more links to get you started? I can help you find links that will assit you with the latitude and longitude and area of the parks in S. Africa. a good one is here and it lists most parks and protected areas. Click search for sites, then serach by country, query South Africa and it will provide some pieces of info that may be helpful with the infobox. Let me know if there is anything else you need for this.--MONGO12:47, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sir, I wish to ask if you would consider extending the ban on this IP for the persistent and annoying way they seem to wish to disrupt the wikipedia. Previous bans of 24 and 31 hours have obviously slowed things down, but the IP is reported as belonging to Research Machines Inc, and its understood that abuse of this IP would result in reports of network abuse to be passed to them.
The IP has an extraordinarily long list of vandalism attached to its name, and I can barely find one edit under the user contributions which is not, or does not amount to outright vandalism. Could I please ask therefore that you consider extending this ban to 48 hours or thereabouts. Previous bans seem to have had no effect since the talk page for this IP is full of bans and vandalism warnings.
Please understand that I would never question the decision of an administrator, as I am not one myself and would consider that the height of rudeness. All I ask is whether you could please reconsider the ban and possibly extend it. Thank you. Thor Malmjursson10:51, 2 March 2006 (UTC)Thor's pet yack[reply]
I'm not sure. I don't want to go, but I don't know if I can continue to contribute if i'm basically under the threat of being blocked for having an opinion, even if they don't block me. This place is run by bullies. I'm tired of seeing people be hurt, i'm tired of being hurt myself. Now's not a good time to be around here, maybe I can have a better perspective of things later today or in a few days. Right now is not a good time for me to be here. Karmafist12:12, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Hi Banes/The whole lot, thank you for your support in my Rfa! It passed with a final tally of 86/0/0. If you need help or just want to talk let me know! Again, thank you! – Dakota~°21:32, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Daniel...assuming you went, how was church today? And, how have you been, lately? It looks like you survived again, so I'm glad to hear that. Too bad about your power situation. I would get very sick of that. You said it's cold finally for you? How nice...although, I'm wishing for the reverse here!!
Right before church today, my family and I were talking about my education (a very big thing on my mind for the last five or six days), and we finally came to some resolution. What a big relief. The stress meter [I don't have] was getting really up there with that, so I'm really happy we've finally resolved that issue, at least for the time being. We've decided to back out of CollegePlus and focus on getting my GED and passing a SAT sometime, and after/during that, focusing only on practice and what I'll need to get into a good music school. So, YAY! No more exams except for the GED and SAT.
Oh, and I got to hear Sarah Chang last Friday...talk about FUN! Playing Beethoven's violin concerto, and she was SO awesome. *shiver* I even got her autograph! :)
Yeah...school has been an immense burden on my mind lately, so it feels incredibly refreshing to not think about any school for the next week except violin. So, yeah...
Thank you! Thank you for your support in my recent RFA. It passed 53/1/2 and I am now an administrator. I appreciate that some of you made exceptions to your usual requirements re length of service and so on because we've interracted positively in the past, or because of my credentials, so I will endeavour to use my new mop cautiously. I'm always open to feedback and gently constructive criticism. If you're not an admin and need some assistance do of course please let me know. Thanks again --kingboyk00:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. If you are interested in The Beatles, User:Lar has asked me to tag on a little note advertising the creation of a new Beatles WikiProject that we are currently setting up. Please sign up and help.
Hi, Banes! Thank you for your kind words regarding my wikibreak; they meant a lot to me. :) Staying away from this place proved impossible, so I'm back. There are simply too many friendly people around here. ;) Happy belated 1,000,000th article milestone! All the best, Sango123(e)20:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
hi Banes, how are you? I have a question: I have been asked if I would like to get nominated for admin. What do you think, should I try it or do you think it would still be too early? I would like to, but I think I need to hear the advice from experts first.... thanks. Gryffindor09:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Banes...hope everything's okay, I just checked your contribs and saw you haven't been here for a while (internet time)...anyway, I'm not going to be on long today, but I just wanted to catch up on a few things with you. First, a reply to your last message: That would be really great if you could move to America. Let me know what happens, okay? I'm sure you would love it here. Have you ever been? Any place in particular? Too bad your car was stolen (x2). NOT fun. :) Not related to your message: 22:45, 24 February 2006 (UTC) User:Derek R Bullamore left a message on my talk page about The Four Pennies page. I know nothing about the topic, and don't feel like researching (hey, I'm supposed to be out of the wiki, remember? :O) and not really sure what he wants. I told him I'd give it to you, but I forgot to until now. I'm tot sure what you'll want to do with it (give it to someone else or deal with it yourself), but I figure you'll be able to figure out something to do with it. So, I qoute:
"I have been adding to the "The Four Pennies" page, greatly expanding the information regarding the UK 1960s band of that name. Unfortunately, the page is now mixing up the USA and UK data, and I think it needs a "disambiguation" adding. I am not experienced enough to know how to do this, and would appreciate your assistance."
Hi, Daniel...I commend you for your long wiki-break (even though you've been working masked, it still was a break, and that's good). Nothing much going on besides violin, at the moment, for which I'm glad. Looking in to taking my GED soon, but nothing seriously planned as of yet. How are you doing? You mentioned you went to Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and New York...can you believe I've never been to NYC? Totally dying to go, but I don't see any prospect for that in the near future. I did drop by DC once, and that was a lot of fun, even though I didn't do much sightseeing there. Anyway...that's about it. Oh, did you see my new userpage as of last week? Let me know what you think sometime, okay?--ViolinGirl♪17:53, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No...if you look at my bio on violinist.com you'll see I live more in the central/northern area of the state. It's faster for me to get out of the country than to go to the city. :P I'm hoping someday to go, as I mentioned above, but I'm not sure when it will be. (The word for red: "auburn". :D) I actually haven't sat down and done much study for the GED yet. I've really only been practicing lately, which has been great fun. Neat that you're getting your learner's license soon. I'm hoping to take (and pass) my driver's test on my birthday this year. We'll see! --ViolinGirl♪18:44, 19 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Perfectly percolated cappucino, Esperanza's own blend.
Is this true? Are you really "pretty stressed"? I didn't see an alert but you are listed on the stresslevel 3 page and I recognized your name from User:Gryffindor's talk page. If you really are stressed (and didn't just forget to remove the link at some point) , let me tell you you and User:Sango123 did a grand job admin coaching. Way too good to be stressed! But just in case, here's a cup of Cappucino. Enjoy! --Mmounties (Talk) 05:12, 14 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is there something I have to do to join this or do I just put the userbox on my page and start looking? (Or are you the one to ask?) —CliffHarris (-T|C-) 00:21, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
hi Banes, how are you? I was wondering if you have one more scenario for me, before I give an administrator voting a shot? Thanks alot... Gryffindor13:45, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Griff, I wonder if you would consider emailing Banes with that question? He is still on wikibreak, but would probably want to respond. Thanks, pschemp | talk14:41, 22 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
We started a proposal Wikipedia:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.
Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.
Editors who thinks that the policy needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the ethics policy further.
If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Wikipedia:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...
I know you are interested in christianity, and I recently started a new wiki over at wikicities which is on the subject of christianity. Christian Knowledge Base is the site.
The goal is to have a knowledgebase on christianity from a distinctly "C(hristian)POV" rather than the NPOV. It is not meant to be a mere Christian Encyclopedia, but to foster a real sense of community. I'd like to include things like current events, news, stories, and anything that would add to both an understanding of Christianity, but also its enjoyment. I'm looking for help to build a resource that could really enrich the lives of Christians.
I know you are busy but I am actively seeking new sysops/admins to help me build this site up, and I would be positively thrilled if you could contribute in any capacity whatsoever. nsandwich05:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience:
"No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention."
The Stress alertsprogram aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Note from the editor
Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!
I hope your Wikibreak is very relaxing, and that you do return "Sometime soon maybe" - though in a less vague context! -- Natalya12:35, 27 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It's good to see you back! You're absolutely right about Gryffindor; s/he'll be great with a shiny new mop. :) Happy April Fools' Day. *whistles nonchalantly before heading to Banes' userpage* Cheers, Sango123(e)18:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I added the image locator map from the project page...hopefully you like it but you can of course add whatever image you want. I'm glad to see that you started one...and it takes a lot of work to build something from nothing, but keep it up and it will be fine. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.--MONGO11:02, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Also, you mentioned their is a list of South African National Parks...where is it...can you link me as I can't find it...I want to put it on the project page--MONGO04:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
dear Banes, how are you? My candidature for administrator has passed with 88/3/1 votes. I was very surprised myself about the amount of support and touching comments that users left about me. Without you and Sango123 it would not have been as easy. You two are amazing and the coolest coaches ever, and for all your efforts and help I am deeply humbled and grateful. For your effort and work, I hereby award you The Barnstar of Diligence. Please let me know if you need any help or drop by and comment on how my work is doing. Thank you, with kind regards and three cheers from Gryffindor07:57, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Banes/The whole lot: Thank you for supporting me in my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 77/3/0. I hope I can perform at the standards expected for administrators. If I make any mistakes, or you need anything, please let me know. Prodegotalk01:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
...On my list of wikifriends: see my userpage! I know we haven't interacted directly. I saw you being active on Esperanza, discussing new ideas and doing the likes. Anyway: we dont need to interact to be friends! After all, a person once said: even if a person isn't your friend, if you want to be his friend, then he will be your friend--ExirKamalabadiJoin Esperanza!13:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi! While User:Titoxd is on a Wikibreak, he gave me permission to do some leg-work concerning Esperanza admin coaching. I was curious how your coaching with User:Gryffindor is going. If it is finished (or even if it isn't), would you be able to take on another coachee? Don't feel guilty if you don't have the time- I perfectly understand, and wouldn't want anyone feel overworked. Thanks for all your time! EWS23 | (Leave me a message!)04:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
"Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated."
The Stress alertsprogram aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Information
Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!
The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly.
A plea from the editor...
The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there.
Hi, Banes. I was doing some WP:AIV duty, and I came across this. You seem to have given a 48-hour block, and then changed your mind and re-blocked for a week. However, since you didn't unblock first, the shorter block is the one that is effective. If an admin blocks someone who is already blocked at the time of blocking, then regardless of which block was done first, the one that is due to expire first is the one that is effective. If you had made it one week, and then changed your mind and made it 48 hours, that would have worked, but it doesn't work the other way round, so you'll have to unblock and re-block if you still want it to be for a week. Cheers. AnnH♫12:52, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, more or less pure Capetonian, as I'm sure my contributions show. However I'm out of town for a few months at the moment. Zaian19:06, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So what was the upshot? Did Squidward stop, or what? Just curious. I haven't seen any George-Reeves-guy type stuff for a while. Herostratus04:30, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Hello Banes/The whole lot. Thank you for your support in my RfA! It passed with a final tally of 91/3/5. I am quite humbled and pleased by the community's show of confidence in me. If you need help or just want to talk, let me know. Cheers! -- Fang Aili說嗎?
Could you please review your block on this IP, as your much shorter block over-rides FireFox's. As its been blocked several times before and is a 'bad' vandal I'm requesting you unblock (;O) and then re-block for longer. Thanks.
Btw, how did your Wikibreak go? Was it enforced with power/connection trouble or voluntary? How's things on that front now? Cheers, Petros47118:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
So he did... I'm not sure why I couldn't see that, especially as it was only a couple of mins after the block. Weird cache or something. Glad you enjoyed your break. And yes I thought you'd noticed that (I wonder how...), thanks. Petros47119:07, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not normally much of an IRC buff, but I'm willing to play along if you think it's a better way to set things up ;-) Sometime on a weekend might be best, I think; otherwise, the time zone difference means that I won't generally get off from work until the middle of the night your time. Any particular time that you would prefer?
Hi there Banes, I hope I'm not bothering you too much; I was just wondering, if you have any spare time in your busy schedule, could you look at the Editor review page and try to maybe review me? I'm trying to find out how I can improve and how I'm viewed on Wikipedia. Much thanks! _-MoP-_04:31, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the kind words! I try to keep my editing balanced, but I chat too much it seems; half of my edits are talking to other people :P But hopefully with the advice of yourself and others I can improve tenfold. Thanks again! _-MoP-_20:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the welcome. I'm sorry I didn't know there was a sandbox. I will use it from now on if I want to test something. Sorry, your welcome told me to sign with with 4 tildes, I forgot to do that. The Genesis08:23, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry again, I didn't know I put that comment on the wrong page. I am working on an article called Black and Mild and I cited an article that states that they are the top selling cigar brand in the US. I have an other webpage that say's this besides the one I already cited. Should I cite the second one too? The Genesis21:32, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Daniel...thanks for your note on my talk page at the beginning of this month. Sorry to not reply for such a long time...business has stolen me! No, hopefully I won't be doing any more exams until possibly this summer or even later...(as in a year). How are prospects coming to the possibility of you coming to America?
Also, I'm not sure if you noticed my comment in reply to your comment on my blog. I was so surprised to see your comment there...thanks! I'm working on a reply, but I just wanted to let you know I was blessed to see your opinion on music like that. It's something I believe strongly in (could you tell? very POV, eh?) and I was glad to see that you were inquiring about it, as well. God bless!--ViolinGirl♪18:28, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think the last exam I had was the one I failed, the one you knew about...too bad for you about the upcoming tests and stuff. Let me know, and I'll be praying. I might not reply right away, but I check over here anyway once or twice a week. 'Twould be great if your whole family could move here with you. Ok, have to run. Have a good weekend.--ViolinGirl♪20:31, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To all the people who accused us, do know that you revealed names of innocent people, so expect fire, geocities, will not be used,feel free to track ip, it will get you nowhee, that's not the point, feel free to file lawsuits, we are good at it. Banes shame on you, you did not help, only caused this problem with other scumbag administrators. Next website will be impossible to go. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.107.2.250 (talk • contribs) 23:07, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Well, firstly, I have no intention of filing any lawsuits, nor have I attempted to track your library IP. There are better things to do, life is short. Secondly, I did not cause you to vandalize wikipedia as Squidward. And as for your hate sites, I am not that worked up about them, just a couple of geocities pages, so, I am not worrying right now about anybody attacking me. "Next website will be impossible to go" Having trouble? Regards -- Banez07:57, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you're going to blame anyone here, blame me. I tracked your IP addresses (first the Comcast IP and secondly the library IPs), reported your vandalisms and will continue to do so. Why? Because you have nothing better to do than vandalise (No wait, that's not a personal attack) Because you have nothing better to do than vandalise.
I may be setting myself up as a target, but it'll take the negative attention away from Banes. You do know, that, randomly, inserting, commas, into a sentence looks silly, right? — nathanrdotcom(T • C • W)12:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Better me than you. Besides, what sort of made-up crap can he say about me? "nathanrdotcom lives in Canada. Canadians live in igloos"? Hah. — nathanrdotcom(T • C • W)23:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But they're so much fun to target! Fair's fair, they target us..they can deal with a little of their own medicine too. :p Anyway, enjoy your break..or else ;) — nathanrdotcom(T • C • W)22:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry to hear that you are withdrawing and taking a Wikibreak, but I understand that there are things that must be done in real life. I have honored your request, and have withdrawn you from the race. Take care, best of luck, and let me know if there's anything I can do for you in the future. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!)05:51, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I second that. My thoughts as I was reading that were "Oh, ****!!!", because I know you are an excellent Wikipedian and would be an ideal member of Esperanza's leadership. But there's always next election, right? :)... Titoxd(?!? - help us)06:24, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck with real life! It's annoying how things always pop up in it and cause problems... ;) We will certainly miss you around Wikipedia and in Esperanza, hopefully you know by now that you would have done fantastically on the Advisory Council. But as Titoxd said, there is always next time! Good luck, and we'll see you around (hopefully). -- Natalya11:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to see you decide to withdraw... but you've got your priorities straight, hats off. Best wishes in your future endeavours and hope to see you active again soon... ++Lar: t/c13:28, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh noes :( I voted for you too. You probably would've won! Anyway, I hope you enjoy your break. *gives you a truckload of cookies to eat on your break* — nathanrdotcom(T • C • W)22:22, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good luck and take care for the next few months, mate. See you around soon. NSLE(T+C) at 05:01 UTC (2006-04-27)
All the best for the future, good luck. I'm sorry to hear that you withdrawn from the elections especially when I voted for you. Come back soon. --Terence Ong05:04, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You'll be sorely missed here, and we all look forward to your return. Until then, be sure to take care, okay? Oh, and have some chocolate and jelly beans too. :) Regards, Sango123(e)20:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Second (or third or fourth) that! Will be joining you too, am going on a wikibreak till June at least, and perhaps longer. Good luck in you RL endeavours & hope to see you on the flipside! Cheers, The Minister of War(Peace)09:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Banes, just thought I would let you know that I was leaving Wikipedia, but before I left, I finally got a picture of thyself of onto Wikipedia. (I know great timing for me to post a picture of myself, right?) This is my final gift to my friends. Later! PS. Try not to laugh to hard at my ugly mug ok? Moeε15:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Since the Project began on the 4th March, 14 new articles that we know of have been created - to see a list and add any we didn't know about, visit the Project Log.
Stick the following template {{Template:WPBeatles}} on relevant articles. We have 500+ already but may have missed some!
Use British/English grammar and spelling per Policy
A few moments checking other editors contributions is always appreciated.
Don't be shy on using the talk pages. It's where a lot of stuff gets decided.
From the Editors
Welcome to the inaugural issue of The Beatles WikiProject's newsletter! We hope that this newsletter will help members—especially those who may be unable to keep up with some of the rapid developments that tend to occur—find new things to do within the project that they may wish to participate in.
Please consider this inital issue to be a prototype; as always, any comments and suggestions are quite welcome. We would like to emphasise that this is a collaborative Project and all editors are equal - so next month the newsletter editor might be you!
A small number of articles from the 1st batch still need to be classified (assessed). Some choice cuts remain, such as Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band! Batch 2 will start soon so let's get these done!
If you create a new article related to The Beatles, whether or not it's on the above list, please follow these instructions. It's nothing heavy, it just helps us Project-structure wonks keep track of things.
Finally, if you haven't yet adopted an article for improvement, please see the list here.
As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.
Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? - It's all here
I'm truly sorry about the belated reply, but I really really wanted to thank you - your concern in my absence and your get-well wishes really mean a lot to me. Sometimes, well - life can be tough on us, but as long as good friends like you are there, I'll always have a reason to cheer up. Dankie, my sweet, dear Daniel!!
-- Natalya has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and many feel they are also contagious! Spread the WikiLove by smiling to two other people, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:Hcs}} to their talk pages. Happy editing! Note: the template won't work properly without the subst.
The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service.
This would be something like the Welcoming Committee, but for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. Some might like suggestions about how to learn vandal patrol, or mentoring on taking an article to featured status, or guidance with a proposal they plan to make at the Village Pump, for example. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
The Stressbusters are a subset of Esperanza aiming to investigate the causes of stress. New eyes on the situation are always welcome!
Note from the editor
As always, MiszaBot handled this delivery. Thank you! Also, congratulations go to Pschemp, Titoxd and Freakofnurture for being elected in the last elections! An Esperanzial May to all of the readership!
Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel.
A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect.
Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct.
Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop.
I, JCarriker, do hereby award Banes one silver wiki buck on 09:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC), for attempting and failing to guess the tenth most spoken language in Texas. Please note that a silver wikibuck is only recognized as legal tender by Sealand, Elbonia, and Franistan; real countries do not accept wikibucks as currency.[reply]
nathanrdotcom has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}} or {{subst:smile2}} to their talk pages. Happy editing! — nathanrdotcom(Got something to say? Say it.)02:43, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Daniel! As I said to you before, it was an honor that you would log in simply to support my request for adminship. I'll do my best to live up to your expectations, as well as those of the rest of the community. Thanks again, and if you ever see something that I could be doing better, please leave me a message. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!)01:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Daniel, and thank you for your supportive comments in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chancetoseemeinaction. Please let me know what you think! I look forward to continuing to work together! Thanks again, and I will do everything I can to justify the trust you've placed in me! I was especially touched that you came off break just to support me! ++Lar: t/c03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Apple Corps v. Apple Computer. A case brought by Apple Corps against Apple Computer, regarding possible infringement of a previous agreement between the two parties in respect of distribution of music, was heard in a London High Court. The story made Wikipedia's front page due to a nomination by our own Kingboyk. The story had an amusing second wave in the news and on Wikipedia; be sure to read the article on Guy Goma if you missed it!
Project News
The Beatles article has been approved for inclusion in Wikipedia Version 0.5, making it one of the first 20 articles to be selected and the first in the Music category.
Eleven new articles have been listed in the Project Log since 1 May.
The hottest Project page this month has been Policy Talk, where some lively discussion has taken place regarding the (perennial) question of the capitalisation of the letter T in "The Beatles". After seeking the comments of Wikipedian third parties unrelated to the project, the proponents and opponents concluded that the current naming policy was correct. The discussion had the added bonus of bringing in some new members.
Project member (and "co-instigator" of The Beatles Project) Lar was made an Administrator. Project member Kingboyk (the other guilty party) has been awarded a Music Barnstar for his contributions, including his work within The Beatles Project, and has also stewarded the KLF article to Featured Article status this month. Sometimes-contributor ZincOrbie has also been awarded a Barnstar for his work on the Badfinger article. Congratulations to all!
The Beatles have been in the real world news recently, but work on The Beatles Project continues as before. This newsletter keeps you up-to-date with what has been happening with the project and, perhaps more importantly, what needs to be done (see the "Issue of the Month" above and the "To Do List" below-left).
If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!
Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 003 – July 2006). All and any contributions are welcome. Just let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or start editing!
As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.
Hello Banes. Thank you for your full support and gracious comment at my request for adminship which ended at the overwhelming and flattering result of (160/1/0), and leaves me in a position of having to live up to a high standard of community expectation - espcially for a respected admin and Esperanza icon to come out of a break to support. You can see me in action and observewhatthenhappened as a result. Naturally, if I make any procedural mistakes, feel free to point them out. I look forward to working with you in the future, possibly on cricket articles. Blnguyen | Have your say!!!04:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You have no idea how big of a smile was brought to my face when I saw that you had briefly escaped from your wikibreak and gave me your support - I have the absolute utmost respect for you as an editor, and it means the world. Thanks again, and I hope your wikibreak continues nicely!
MUAHAHAHA
Here is an 6/6/6, aka Evil Day, greeting for you friend. These type of messages promote WikiLove in an unknown way. Spread this evil love to others by making a derivative work of this... Or another evil something that is flowing about. The Kingof Kings20:17, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The wikibreak messages have disappeared - is it true? Are you really back?! Good to see you back here!! Follow up: The Barnstar Brigade page confirms it! The community will certainly be glad to have you back. And SATs are awful, that must be very nice to have them all done. -- Natalya15:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's not good about the SUV - hope you're okay! But more time on Wikipedia is always a good thing, and now you have an excuse for it too. -- Natalya19:12, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Oh joy in the wiki-world, Banes has returned! We've missed you so much, Daniel! Now give your old friend a big hug and make yourself comfortable! Everybody, drinks are on Banes! Phaedriel
Hello there, as YOU seem to call yourself, Banes. Just so you know, I, Shane Manners, 17 years of age and a Canadian Resident, am the ONLY Banes that should be walking gods green earth. I've held the nickname since about 6 years of age. So this would be the 11th year. That is all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The Real Banes (talk • contribs)
Hi Banes, I see you are listed as coaching SFGiants, however it is listed as 'pending'. Could you please either move that to active if it is, or let me know if you are ok to take on a new trainee. Cheers, Petros47120:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Banes, thank you very much for your support in my recent Request for adminship, it passed with a final tally of (65/3/3) - which I find both amazing and humbling. I wish I had time to thank everyone personally, but I'm afraid all I can offer is this token of my gratitude. I hope to live up to your expectations/hopes. If at any stage you need to contact me, for help or a request or to point out a mistake in my conduct, please make sure to tell me on my talk page. --Fir000208:34, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nice 2 meet u 2, Daniel. First let us sort out the differences in time zone, by stating wrt gmt when we are generally active. That would help us know when to expect quick responses. :-) I am generally active from 5 am to 3-5 pm gmt, generally. --soumসৌমোyasch13:12, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Banes/The whole lot, and thank you for the very kind words and supportive vote on my recent RfA! With a final vote of 84/1/4, I have now been entrusted with the mop, bucket and keys. I will be slowly acclimating myself to my new tools over the next months, but welcome any and all feedback and suggestions on how I might be able to use them to help the project. You are a great example to others of how to interface on Wikipedia. Thanks again! - Kukini17:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
➨ ЯЄDVERS awards this Barnstar to Banes for being a great mate, for being reasonable, for being a Wikiholic, for being determined, for being very good looking, for standing up for principle, for helping others, for calmly stating his opinions and for holding his nerve.
Hey Banes, I'm inviting you to join the User Page Design Committee as a designer. Take a look at the main page to see a rough draft of the Main scope of the project, and let me know if you would like to join as a member to help assist those in need of a good User Page! Cheers! — The Kingof Kings23:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
First admin i found to be able to answer a quick question.
Is it possoble for users to be able to lock their own user pages or something, so that they are the only ones that can edit those pages? Because I had the idea of asking an admin to lock [page] because I wish my userbars to remain untouched. Sorry if this has been already asked, but i'm rather in a hurry and i cannot afford time to search carefully whether questions like mine have already been asked.
Hi. I'm Sharlemagne and a new user. I was wondering if you could help me customize my page with the userboxers. And how would I catorgorize my page? Like, I found you under teenage Wikipedians, so how could I do the same for myself?
As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.
As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.
Ok... having now been here for 2 months, and with ovr 4000 edits, I have come to the conclusion that my User page needs spiffification... I'm half tempted to steal yours, and attempt to modify it, but figured you might have a better solution... any recommendations would help... - Adolphus7923:27, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Banes, as a relatively new admin still, I have a question about blocking, and was hoping you'd know. If an IP is blocked, what, if anything, can be done for registered users who wish to edit under their username, but from that IP? I believe I've gathered that initially they are also blocked from editing, but haven't been able to figure out from all the assorted things I've read if that can be remedied at all. Thanks! -- Natalya18:24, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
...my dear Daniel, a bright Wikipedian and an even brighter spirit, whose sole name is capable of drawing the broadest smile on my face, and whose kindness and generosity are an inspiration and a model to me. For all these months of beautiful friendship you've gifted me, and wishing it may last forever, with my deepest affection, Phaedriel
Thank you Banes for awarding me the Random Acts of Kindess Barnstar, I've been awfully busy and forgot to reply to all my talk page messages, ArbCom waiting time - bite me. Hope all is well, HighwayRainbow Sneakers14:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. I'm feeling about as confident in the elections as I did for my driving test today. I failed. One is far more expensive failure than the other... Petros47116:25, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly, there are plenty of other good candidates (*wink*). I don't really mind though, it's not like I can't be involved with Esperanza things if I'm not on the council. I'm not that bothered by failing the test (first time), I am bothered by the quite stupid amount of money it costs (I'm not technically a student at the moment but I feel as poor as one!). Petros47117:26, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Daniel! Soum has probably had enough time to review comments from our last session, so if you're not too busy now, do you think we could get started on the second session with warning templates and assigned reading? Cheers, Sango12318:37, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, done! I picked admin policy pages for the assigned reading, mainly covering deletion, protection, and blocking. Feel free to add to or modify the list as you'd like. Take care, Sango12302:43, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Daniel...it's been a looong time. Are you off of your WikiBreak? Or...was it a SATbreak? Whatever; are you back? How's stuff going for you? I've been keeping superiorily busy...but, I'm sure you know about that (since I noticed a person from South Africa stopped by Extreme Calling a bit ago). Anyway, I just wanted to check in with you and see how life was going. Talk to you later...--ViolinGirl♪15:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nice to hear from you and to know what's going on with you. Everything sounds exciting, thanks for letting me know. I've been doing great, and I assume you have been, as well, from the sounds of it. The "holiday" was a working vacation :D yes, I suppose you could call it that. Intense, but fun, as well. I'm glad the SAT went well...it's pretty tough, I gather. Best wishes for your success at the workshop thing you're going to the next week(s?). I'm sure you'll do well. As for my own academic plans, at the moment it looks like I'm going to be aiming for the stars and try auditioning for the Curtis Institute of Music...it will be a huge challenge, and the answer really will be from the Lord if I get in or not. Anyway, I've been practicing and trying to prepare for a possible audition to get into their fall classes in 2007. But enough about that...after you talk to the US embassy guy, that's hopefully going to narrow down your choices for...college...right? Sounds interesting.--ViolinGirl♪20:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Best wishes to you for your college pursuits. What are you going for? Yeah, school is expensive. I'm sure you'll be able to get a good scholarship, I think a lot of schools really cater to students who don't come from America. Anyway...I'm not really sure when the audition will be...I'll be aiming to join their fall classes, so whenever the audition for that is (this winter, maybe?) that's when I'll try it. I think. :D --ViolinGirl♪22:01, 2 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Billy Preston, often considered the Fifth Beatle, died on 6 June at age 59. The American soul musician was a long term friend of The Beatles and was the only person to receive joint credit on a Beatles single ("Get Back"). Preston was an Apple Records recording artist and he performed at George Harrison's Concert for Bangladesh and at the Concert for George, both energetic and memorable performances. He also played regularly with The Rolling Stones and a number of other artists.
New article classification system, for our use and for Wikipedia 1.0. Very important and we need editor involvement. How can you help? Rate articles! It's easy:
After deciding what grade it should have, modify the invocation of {{WPBeatles}} on the talk page to add parms. The template itself gives you the parameters to use. For example, change {{WPBeatles}} to {{WPBeatles|B|Low}} if you think it's a low-importance, B-class article. Save your changes and make sure the talk page is now showing the ratings.
Click on the link in the template to edit the /comments subpage and explain why you rated the article the way you did. Don't forget to sign with ~~~~. Save that too.
Want to stay up on new project developments? Watchlist all of the WikiProject pages plus The Beatles and each of the 4 members, to get a feel for what's happening. Also monitor and regularly review Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/The Beatles articles by quality log. If an article is listed on there as "added", go check the article's history. If it's new since the Project began add it to the Project Log as a new article and up the counter by one :)
It was a bit of a struggle to get this month's newsletter done, as we did it without a lead editor. Hopefully, next month you'll jump in and be our lead editor. Big news is that WP:1.0 is coming along nicely and our article classification system has changed to conform to it.
If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!
Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 004 – August 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.
Want to help on next month's newsletter? Don't want to receive these in future? Don't want it subst'd next time? – It's all here.
Banes
Thank you for your vote in the Esperanza Elections. Your support is much appreciated, and it means that I am now in the Council. I will continue to try my best, and if you have any questions or queries, please don't hesistate to leave me a message. Thanks again, — FireFox 15:28, 10 July '06
I'd also like to add my congratulations on your success into the Council, I look forward to working with you. — FireFox 15:47, 10 July '06
First off, a huge congratulations on being elected into the Esperanza Council! :) And no, I haven't heard from Soum lately, although he still appears to be active. No harm will come out of letting him take his time though, especially with the assigned reading. Cheers, Sango12317:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
My dear Banes, thank you so much for your support in the Esperanza Elections! It really honors me to have it, especially from someone who I respect very much. I am much looking forward to working with you on the council, it will truly be great! -- Natalya01:23, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Following a recommendation by Pilotguy at WP:ANI, I extended the block to indefinite due to the account being used for basically nothing but a campaign of harrassment combined with blatant vandalism. In retrospect I should have just suggested extending the block to you first, given that there's no urgency considering you only just blocked him for 48 hours, so I apologise for that. If you object to an indefinite block, please discuss here. --Sam Blanning(talk)18:11, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Really? I find it's the opposite- if I've got loads of stuff sitting on my talk page it probably means I've got loads to do (as I try not to archive things that still need my attention)! Petros47118:18, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ah ok. I find it easier to start selecting from the last post I'm archiving, then drag up towards the top, so there's less chance of overshooting, and it's easier to see when I need to stop. You can also use shift+keyboard arrows to select which gives more control. I don't bother doing it by number of topics, I generally archive either when I'm getting page to large warning, at the middle and end of month, when I feel like it, or when I've dealt with everything on the page, whichever one comes first! Petros47120:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Glad I could be of some help :) Userpage scores: no, I didn’t think so... Not unless I sign up as spammer. People will be emailing you the scores, and then you can either announce them or pass the results on to the spammer to do so (the last two rounds I've generally announced them but made sure the spammer is around at the same time). Make sense? Petros47121:54, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but decided against it at the time. I also considered making my whole sig just link to talk page and/or add a simple (talk) link after my username but never really got round to it. As you can probably tell I'm a fan of simple signatures that take up a minimum of the edit window/diff screen, though a talk link won't stop that too much. Petros47122:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It really is, too! Thanks for the thought of awarding me a barnstar, it's just as nice. :D I'm really excited about working with you (and everyone!) on the council too - it should be great. -- Natalya22:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sweet dear Daniel, it's great to have you around when I need the most. It's amazing all the things we've been through since we first talked so many months ago, isn't it? Yet you have not changed in the least, always faithful, always caring, always sweet. I'll stop before getting to emotional - just thank you, my dear Dan, reading your beautiful words, as always, cheered me a lot.
I'll take the chance to congratulate you for being elected at the Esperanza elections - way to go, hun! I know EA will only benefit from having awesome people like you, Nat or Eric leading it. Hey, with so many friends in there, maybe someday I should move my lazy butt there and join once and for all! ;)
it's great to see you around, as always, hun - I'll make sure to visit you more often, even tho my motives are entirely selfish because I enjoy your company so much. Big, big hugs, Phædriel♥tell me - 23:52, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
[Catching up on where our conversation left of July 2...]
Well, I'm sure no matter what college you choose will be great, and you'll do a marvelous job. I've actually signed up for the SAT in October now, so I'm getting more of an accurate idea of how you felt before you took yours!! It would be great if you could get to fly, but I do understand your parent's worries about joining the Air Force. Best wishes for your plan formulating...--ViolinGirl♪00:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I posted a question regarding the Esperenza User Page Award on the talk page for the contest:
EvocativeIntrigue's nominated user page contained (at the point of nomination) a fair use image. I removed it from his page. So what should I do: a) ask the nominator to re-evaluate the page to see if it's still nomination-worthy, b) give Evocative Intrigue some time to add other picture of he so desires, or c) just evaluate the page sans the image (like how it is now)? -- joturner23:01, 15 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations on your first Wikibirthday (17 July), and thanks for the countless edits (actually we do have a way to count them :)), anyway, the best way to celebrate it is to go on a holiday ;). Best, feydey23:11, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose I have been stressed, but more like disappointed actually. I always defend others from off wiki attacks as much as I can...I don't condone it on wiki either of course. They decided to attack me simply because they can. I suppose I blocked a few trolls at some point, so they use these outside websites to get their revenge. Much like wikipediareview and hivemind, I do not see what purpose ED now serves by having a link here or even an article...mainly because it is hopelessly POV, difficult to accurately reference and a haven and or magnet for trollery. Thanks for the kind words and best wishes!--MONGO03:59, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for contributing the impressive the pile of supports gathered on my RfA, which passed with a final tally of 0x0104/0x01/0x00. I'm happy that so many people have put faith in my abilities as an admin and promise to use the tools wisely and do my best not to let you down. If I ever may be of assistance, just leave a note on my talk page. Misza13, the rouge-on-demand admin wishes you happy editing!
NOTE: This message has been encrypted with the sophisticated ROT-26 algorithm. Ability to decipher it indicates a properly functioning optical sensor array.
Another Barnstar? I must have died and gone to wiki heaven ;)
Thanks Banes for your RAOK Barnstar! Everyone's been so kind, it's very overwellming :) I've never really spoken to you before, which is kind of bad of me, seeing as you're such a great user, but now's my chance.
You're a really great user, kind and an excellent leader. People like you and Natalya, I really look up to, so it means so much to hear that I'm doing good from you two ;)
Thanks for your kind appauds about my comment on the Esperanza talk as well. It's a shame that didn't turn out better :(
Anyway, I better go and put your kind award in my awards section. That page has really grown these last three days.
I noticed you have volunteered to do some admin coaching. You sound like a good user, so I would be happy to have you as my admin coach, just give me instructions on how to get started, and I would be happy to have you, cheers —MinunSpiderman15:31, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Banes, I've been keeping a track of this conversation (it's been all over ;) and I feel like I should tell you that Minun is the subject of an arbitration case (under Iloveminun (talk·contribs)) and is likely facing a block of up to a year. If Minun is being jumped to the top of the queue, I wonder if his remaining time until the arbitration is finalised is enough to coach him sufficiently, since he has been asking various member of the Pokémon WikiProject to "teach me how to be a good editor." Just want you to utilise your skills as best you can. Cheers, HighwayReturn to Oz...20:24, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry for the mess I've created, Daniel. I have fixed it. I'll finish with it and depart from the project. Will I ever see you nice guys again? I'll never know.--Tdxiang06:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Daniel, I added you back to the Skype chat, I'm sorry, I wasn't thinking. Feel free to chew me out later :). KOS | talk08:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Banes. I'm fine, although probably avoiding the mess is a good thing. Just been away for a week (due to illness not stress). Anyway, I'll still be working on it privately, but in case you were looking for any happy-hunting grounds, WP:NAA its archives and the like offer many easy targets. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line08:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
BTW I've typed this message without the use of a mouse. I reached you page by pressing the "Tab" button on my keyboard from WP:ESP/CL where you had just signed a comment. Commend me on my hard work ;) May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|)10:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
No, it certainly isn't mine :) I don't have any idea why they would want to impersonate me, but it seems like they did. Anyway, thanks for blocking it! Cheers, Tangotango10:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
➨ ЯEDVERS awards this Surreal Barnstar to Banes for being a good sport, for being very very funny, for rescuing my Wikipedia day from stress and for being a mate with an excellent sense of humour. And for being sexy.
Despite it being the lead news article of last month, there is still help required in the assessing of articles and the migrating of comments. Lar is willing to provide assistance to those unsure how to do this.
The Beatles article, the "Flagship" of the Project, is currently under review with regard to its Featured Article status. It is hoped that the review will identify those areas that need some(/lots of) remedial work, and that the Project participants and those editors who are involved in the the FA admin pages to can work together to "save" the status of the article.
At the moment there is some discussion as to why it has been listed, and what may be needed to help it retain its FA status. It may well be that some work is going to be required in formulating a plan of action, and then some more in achieving those aims.
The FA status is obviously quite important to the Project, and it would be appreciated if participants are able to provide assistance in keeping the article up to standard. The editors would be grateful if those persons receiving this Newsletter could spare some of their time, energy and brainpower in keeping this jewel in our crown in its proper place. Please go to Wikipedia:Featured article review/The Beatles and get involved! Thank you.
As mentioned in the Project News section, The Beatles article has just been listed for a review of its Featured Article status. Working on this is quite important.
If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!
Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 005 – September 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.
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I've just updated your monobook to reflect a fix of the master rollback script. All I've done is just given you KOS's whole monobook again. Everything should still work, if it doesn't, get back to me. — FireFox(talk)10:38, 03 August '06
Great, no problem :) — FireFox(talk)11:05, 03 August '06
Are you trying to give me a "guilt trip" so to speak, to try and get me on Skype? :P "I ain't leaving it for half an hour. I guess I'll talk to you another day" KOS | talk12:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know if this is what's encouraged, but are you able to delete the old versions of this image: [42]? I submitted the image myself and the old versions are just wasting space. I'd appreciate it.--Daveswagon21:29, 7 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, it was realy nice to see that! I've gone into semi-retirement, because I might come back later, but it's all too weird now. It's a pity our paths have never crossed before, because I've seen you around and you always seem like a really good editor. Anyway, thanks so much for your message! SergeantSnopake13:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Esperanza To-Do List is a place where you may list any request, big or small, for assistance. If you need help with archiving your usertalk, for example, all you need to do is list it here and somebody will help you out. Likewise, if you need help with some area of editing on Wikipedia, list it here! Again, any matter, trivial or not, can be placed on this page. However, all matters listed on this page must not be of an argumentative nature. You do not need to be a member of Esperanza (or this program) to place or fulfill requests on this page. If you don't have any requests, consider coming by and fulfilling a few! This program has not been very active, but has lots of potential!
What's New?
In order to help proposed programs become specific enough to make into full-fledged programs, the In development section of the proposals page has been created. Proposals that are promising, but need to be organized in more detail are listed here. Please take a look at what is there, and help the proposals turn into programs.
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The In development section of the proposals page has been created.
Proposals page: Some proposals have been moved to the aforementioned "In development" section, some have been left as a proposal, and others have been archived. For those proposals that were a good idea but didn't necessarily constitute a program, General Esperanzial Actions has been created.
Two small pieces of charter reform will be decided on in a straw poll at Wikipedia talk:Esperanza/Governance. One involves filling the position of any councillors who may leave, the other involves reforming the charter.
Until cooperation with the Kindness Campaign is better defined, it remains as a proposed program.
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Oi, oi, oi! (It's fun to say that!) :D Thanks for the note; I've been watching you tooI've seen you doing things too (the other one sounded too evil) and let's just say they aren't all mistakes. ;) —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-¢|ε|Ŀ|T|♪-) 14:38, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Pilotguy is happy to award this barnstar to Banes for his outstanding support of Wikipedians in need, as well as involvement in many benefical projects, such as Esperanza
I've heard a lot about you and have seen you do some great work around the 'pedia, so I figure you deserve a little something. Keep up the good work on Wikipedia and Esperanza! --Pilotguy(roger that)01:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nudge given. :) Glad to hear you're doing well; I'm just trying to spend as much time here as possible before school starts. :P Cheers, Sango12314:48, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Are you feeling OK? Was the conscious urge to do admin tasks weigh on you? Did you get desysopped in a technical sense or just going dormant? Take care, Blnguyen | rant-line01:34, 21 August 2006 (UTC).[reply]
Hmm...your sig looks vaguely familiar. ;) How are you doing? I've been doing relatively well...and yeah, looking forward to the SAT in October (not, heh).
Unfortunately, the Featured Article badge on The Beatles was revoked. The article was immediately nominated for Good Article status, which it received later that same day. Project member Kingboyk said of the nomination, "I'm quite happy about it really, as I feel that GA is about where we're at and gives some incentive to work on the article."
We have a new category for Beatles articles needing attention. If you're looking for something to work on, the articles in this category and the subcategories need some TLC. To put an article in this category, tag its talk page with {{WPBeatles|attention=yes}}.
Kingboyk has given {{WPBeatles}} another major overhaul, and has assessed all of the Beatles articles. He would be grateful if other editors would leave comments on the state of articles, needed improvements and so on, by clicking the Comments link in the template. Also, feel free to revise the gradings—the assessments were done quickly, and article quality can change.
No articles have been adopted this past month. Adopt one now!
A month of slow progress and some amazing efforts. Still need help getting comments shifted. Don't forget to log your accomplishments!
If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!
Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 006 – October 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.
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Hi Banes. I realised that we haven't crossed paths in awhile, and I thought that I'd take the short stroll to your page and just leave you a message. I saw that you put away the mop for now, which suprised me, but if you feel good to be without it for now, then welcome back to the club for us normal editors ;) I'm also sorry to see you're so busy. That's a real bummer, and wikipedia will miss you not being around so much. However, I hope that maybe you can get some R&R in between being busy. You certainly deserve some ;)
Anyway, I hope all is well with you otherwise, and I look forward to the day when you came back to full time editing. Good luck, and take care. Thε HaloΘ11:57, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yo, dude! Good luck with the Irish dancing championships! oh, and those exams, but those aren't as important, right? ;) Seriously though, really good luck with both. I have my fingers crossed :) Thε HaloΘ10:59, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Banes, I don't know when you will be reading this, but my sister does Irish Dancing too. I don't know very much about it, but I know that it does take a lot of work and dedication. Good luck, I hope you do well!--Chili1401:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Here in Wikipedia there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go unappreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go unnoticed. As Esperanzians we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. This is where the Barnstar Brigade comes in. The object of this program is to seek out the people which deserve a Barnstar, and help them feel appreciated. With your help, we can recognize more dedicated editors!
What's New?
September elections are upon us! Anyone wishing to be a part of the Advisory Council may list themselves as a candidate from 18 September until 24 September, with the voting taking place from 25 September to 30 September. Those who wish to help with the election staff should also list themselves!
Appreciation Week, a program currently in development, now has its own subpage! Share your good ideas on how to make it awesome there!
The Esperanza front page has been redesigned! Many thanks to all who worked hard on it.
Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.
The September 2006 Council elections will open for nominations on 18 September 2006. The voting will run from 25 September 2006 until 30 September 2006. If you wish to be a candidate or a member of the elections staff, please list yourself!
The new Esperanza front page design has but put up - many thanks to all who worked on it!
TangoTango has written a script for a bot that will list new members of Esperanza, which will help those who welcome new Esperanzains greatly!
Although having the newsletter appear on everyone's userpage is desired, this may not be ideal for everyone. If, in the future, you wish to receive a link to the newsletter, rather than the newsletter itself, you may add yourself to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Newsletter/Opt Out List.
Banes... Thank you very much for your support in my request for adminship. Ultimately, no consensus was reached, and I failed to be promoted, but I am very grateful for your support. Banes, I know how busy you are, so I want to thank you very, very much for such a wonderful support opinion during my RfA. Hearing support from such a wonderful user such as yourself was awesome, so I hope to continue to do well in what I do well, and to improve in the areas that I need to improve. Thank you so much :) Yours, Thε HaloΘ23:27, 22 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, hopefully one of us will get lucky and either IRC or Skype will work. Now if you don't mind, lets stop these pointless usertalk messages. ;) KOS | talk22:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the birthday wishes, Banes! It's really nice to hear from you again; how've you been? School's keeping me busy now and I'm a bit nervous for a piano recital tomorrow, but overall, things have been quite good. :) Cheers, Sango12323:12, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The site of the former Casbah Club, operated by Mona Best (mother of Pete) in the basement of her house, and where the nascent Beatles played and rehearsed, has been accorded Grade II Listed status following a recommendation by British Heritage.
Project News
Some Project articles are having their Featured Article status reviewed, and the comments are not encouraging. The articles are A Day in the Life and A Hard Day's Night (song). (She Loves You has already had its FA status revoked.) Please participate in the discussion and help improve the articles!
In other Project news, the articles The Beatles trivia and John Lennon were nominated for deletion, presumably as vandalism, but the deletions were quickly vetoed.
As usual, the self-effacing individuals who contribute to the Project are far too modest to mention any Barnstars or other awards they may have received. Obviously they feel their editing/contributing is reward enough.
Issue of the Month
The lead article of the Project recently lost its FA status, and now some of the other articles are being reviewed. Citations and references within articles are again the major concern. Contributors who have literature (books, magazines, links, etc.) are especially needed to provide the necessary citations. It is not enough for editors to know the facts; they need to be backed up by other sources. All help, both within the articles and the discussion, would be appreciated.
From the Editors
If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!
Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 007 – November 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.
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For being my friend and all that goes with it, I, $PЯINGεrαgђ, give you this cream tart. Enjoy! I don't really know what to say, mate, since we haven't talked much, but I will say thank you for being such an up-front character in Esperanza.
Admin Coaching needs coaches!!! If you are an administrator, or even a generally experienced user, do consider signing up to be a coach.
Admin Coaching, now being coordinated by HighwayCello, is a program for people who want help learning some of the more subtle aspects of Wikipedia policy and culture. People are matched with experienced users who are willing to offer coaching. The program is designed for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.
What's New?
The Tutorial Drive is a new Esperanza program! In an effort to make complicated processes on Wikipedia easier for everyone, Esperanza working to create and compile a list of tutorials about processes here on Wikipedia. Consider writing one!
A discussion on how Esperanza relates to the encyclopedia has been started; please add your thoughts.
Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.
The list of proposed programs has been updated, with some proposals being archived.
There is now a new program: the Tutorial Drive! Consider writing a tutorial on something you are good at doing on Wikipedia.
The suggestion of adding a cohesive look to all the Esperanza pages is being considered; join the discussion if you are interested!
In order to make a useful interlanguage welcome template, those involved in translation projects will be asked what English Wikipedia policies are most important and confusing to editors coming from other language Wikipedias.
Shreshth91 informed everyone that he will be leaving the Esperanza council as life is rather busy; his spot will be filled by the runner up from the last election, HighwayCello.
Although having the newsletter appear on everyone's userpage is desired, this may not be ideal for everyone. If, in the future, you wish to receive a link to the newsletter, rather than the newsletter itself, you may add yourself to Wikipedia:Esperanza/Newsletter/Opt Out List.
Again, the issue of the month is inline citations. A Day in the Life, A Hard Day's Night (song), and Get Back have all been defeatured, as they failed to satisfy criterion 1(c) of What is a featured article?, and other song FAs are due for the chopping block. Inline citations are an important aspect of articles—they ensure verifiability and reliability, and they remove original research. Additionally, they give readers the option to read the original source material and view it within context.
Basically:
All direct quotations attributed to Beatles members pooled from interviews need full inline citations.
All critical comments about songs or albums need full inline citations to notable music critics, magazines opinions, or reviews, as opposed to being merely comments by Wikipedians.
Inline citations need: author name, article name, publication date, and name of publication. Such info is still preferable even if quoting from an interview posted upon a website; when this is the case, place the URL link at the end of the citation with the date it was last accessed. (This will help editors retrieve the page using the Wayback Machine, should the link go dead in the future.)
Beatles News
The Beatles are due to release a soundtrack album, LOVE, at the end of November, as a companion to their Cirque du Soleiladaptation of the same name. It will feature remastered and remixed versions of their previously released songs, including some new medleys.
Paul's getting a divorce. Pain, arguing, and fighting abound.
Project News
Featured Article drive: A number of project members are collaborating on Paul McCartney's article, with the aim of getting it to Featured Article status. The work is going well and all help is welcome! Check in at Talk:Paul McCartney if you want to help.
The Wings tours are really nicely documented now (see Category:Wings tours), but Category:The Beatles tours is almost empty. Kingboyk and the rest of us would love to see (and read) articles on each Beatles tour, including the pre-fame tours of the UK—and the Hamburg trips, of course!
Our project members are too modest to report any awards they may have given or received.
From the Editors
Wherever possible, editors should help to trim down on list-like prose within Beatles articles. They should convert list-like sections into fluent, cohesive prose which ties an article's sections together. Lists make articles disjointed, awkward, and difficult to read.
Be sure to take part in the Featured Article drive, and don't forget those inline citations!
If you've just joined, add your name to the Participants section of Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles. You'll get a mention in the next issue of the Newsletter and get it delivered as desired. Also, please include your own promotions and awards in future issues. Don't be shy!
Lastly, this is your newsletter and you can be involved in the creation of the next issue (Issue 008 – December 2006). Any and all contributions are welcome. Simply let yourself be known to any of the undersigned, or just start editing!
As the project is currently just starting, our more experienced editors are working on the project infrastructure, classifying articles, and listing/assessing red links. Your assistance is welcome. If you would prefer to just edit - and why wouldn't you? - we have a choice selection of red links to turn blue and articles to clean! Now let's get busy.
Project: Add {{WPBeatles}} to the talk pages of all Beatles-related articles. Send a newsletter to members, canvas for new members, and coordinate tasks. Enter articles classed as stubs into this list (under To Expand) and also list articles needing cleaning and other work here.
If you complete one of these tasks, please remove it from the list and add your achievement to the project log.
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I was wondering if you noticed that Sango has not been with us since October 1, and has not replied to any emails sent by multiple parties
Is the Indian cricket team coming to your city on the current tour. I wonder if you could catch them at training and get some photos. Unfortunately, the spectators on the subcontinent are not allowed anywhere near the players. I went to the Adelaide Oval and got some photos of the English team, and will me uploading them soon. :)
Oh, that's a shame then. When I came in yesterday I asked a security guard if the public were allowed in and he just nodded and smiled. There weren't even any security checks or anything and we were allowed to come as close to the players as wanted...It almost seems a joke. It's difficult trying to take photos through the netting though....and since the viewing area is behind the batsmen, we can only get pictures of the bowlers in their delivery stride. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 22:54, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your support of my adminship!! I was surprised at the turnout and support I got! If you ever have any issues with any of my actions, please notify me on my talk page! Thanks again! Ryan Norton T | @ | C 04:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
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As far as the question about whether or not I've been nominated for Admin, the answer is "no", although a few people have offered to do so. I'm not sure how useful I'm going to be as an admin between now and December [when school gets out], but I'm not opposed to being nominated...God knows the extra buttons would be nice sometimes!
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, let me tell you you and User:Sango123 did a grand job admin coaching. Way too good to be stressed! But just in case, here's a cup of Cappucino. Enjoy! --Mmounties (Talk) 
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