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Welcome to the Wikimedia Aotearoa Online meetup
Kia ora Yvanblog, Thank you so much for coming along to the meetup today. It was great to see you. I hope you'll join us again. You don't need to even introduce yourself if you feel anxious about it. We're really happy to have people just hanging out and responding by chat if this makes you more comfortable. You'll get to know us and see we are really friendly and very happy to help editors learn new stuff. If you have any questions or you need any help - just reach out on my talk page. Einebillion (talk) 00:59, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
Request for applications for position of Wikipedian-at-Large, Aotearoa New Zealand
Kia ora! The Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand User Group invites you to read about the call for applications for a Wikipedian-at-Large for Aotearoa New Zealand in 2024. Group members are happy to explain the process and discuss ideas with interested editors.
Sent by Zippybonzo on behalf of MurielMary using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) at 06:37, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
Wikimedia Aotearoa New Zealand online meetup
Thanks for your participation in our online meetup. I hope you found something of interest. If you are happy to do so, please add a short summary of your recent work to the "round table" section of the notes here: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa_New_Zealand_Online/40#Round_table_for_participants . Of course this is entirely up to you. I hope you will be able to join the monthly online meetup again. In the meantime, you are welcome to contact me, or others who were online today, for assistance. As I said during the meeting, we welcome different forms of contribution to the work of the Wikimedia movement, and really appreciate those who put time into incremental improvements of Wikipedia articles. Marshelec (talk) 02:39, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks for the nice comments!! Yvanyblog (talk) 07:08, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Flag icons are severely discouraged on Wikipedia they are only really acceptable when the thing being described is actually the entity the detail is about. Normally battles and sports teams. Maungapohatu (talk) 06:12, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- But it's common use, Christchurch, Auckland, Dunedin and other New Zealand city/town articles use flag icons for their Sister cities section. Yvanyblog (talk) 07:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Good to meet you
It was nice to meet you at the Aotearoa Meetup today. Just wanted to mention that I'm in Christchurch regularly and am likely to organise a Wikimedian meetup over summer, to which you're of course invited. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 09:27, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Be bold
(erm) Hi, I heard your comment yesterday about asking whether you should change the image of an article. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle. If you think a change should be made, be bold and change it. If someone disagrees, they may revert it, but then you can use a talk page to discuss why you think the change should be made. In short, if you think a change should be made, you don't need to ask for permission. —Panamitsu (talk) Please ping on reply 22:45, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
- Kia ora @Panamitsu, thanks for your comment. I thought I had to ask for someones permission to change the image in the infobox, but now I know.
- I plan on updating images related to buildings/suburbs in Ōtautahi. Yvanyblog (talk) 02:59, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
Wikipedia and copyright
Hello Yvanyblog! Your additions to Russian New Zealanders have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.
- You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
- Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify the information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
- We have strict guidelines on the usage of copyrighted images. Fair use images must meet all ten of the non-free content criteria in order to be used in articles, or they will be deleted. To be used on Wikipedia, all other images must be made available under a free and open copyright license that allows commercial and derivative reuse.
- If you own the copyright to the source you want to copy or are a legally designated agent, you may be able to license that text so that we can publish it here. Understand, though, that unlike many other sites, where a person can license their content for use there and retain non-free ownership, that is not possible at Wikipedia. Rather, the release of content must be irrevocable, to the world, into either the public domain (PD) or under a suitably free and compatible copyright license. Please see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
- Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you must follow the copyright attribution steps described at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. See also Help:Translation#License requirements.
It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, please ask them here on this page, or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 14:44, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
I have sent you a note about a page you started
Hello, Yvanyblog. Thank you for your work on Russian New Zealanders. User:FuzzyMagma, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:
article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles
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FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:40, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Offer of assistance
Hi, I am happy to offer you assistance if you wish with articles related to Polish settlers. Just let me know when it would suit you. Marshelec (talk) 23:45, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
- I have undertaken a brief search for sources about Polish New Zealanders, and found there are lots of sources about Polish immigration. I note that the topic of the history of Polish immigration is covered in two articles:Polish New Zealanders, and New Zealand–Poland relations. My opinion is that the history-related content in the article about New Zealand-Poland relations should be brief (summary level), and that the best place for an expanded history of the history of immigration and refugees is the article Polish New Zealanders. However, perhaps other editors may have a different view. This could be discussed on the talk page of those articles, or possibly on the Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board. However, the main need is to improve the coverage - where it goes is secondary. In the meantime, please have a look at the list of sources I have prepared here: [1]. If this link doesn't work, please let me know. It would be an interesting project summarising the published history of Polish immigration to New Zealand. Let me know if you would like me to share in the work.Marshelec (talk) 20:59, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- OK, I'll look into it. I also need assistance with adding citations to the notable Polish New Zealanders section, It should look similar to what I did in the article Russian New Zealanders. Yvanyblog (talk) 21:38, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
- I decided to try and verify the claim of Polish descent of the first person on the list, John Blumsky, initially without success. The claim was not supported in the text of the article, or in any of the citations that I could view online. However, looking at the article for Mark Blumsky, I found a citation claiming to support Polish heritage, from a Press article. I was able to locate the Press article in ProQuest here: [2]. So there is a source supporting Polish descent for both John and his son Mark. The article for John needs a small expansion with this citation added, and the same citation could then be added for both Mark and John Blumsky in the list of notable people in Polish New Zealanders. Would you like to do that ? If you haven't used ProQuest before, I could give you a quick online demonstration and show you the use of the id parameter in the "manual" citation builder to call up the ProQuest item. Just let me know. Marshelec (talk) 08:12, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- I followed a similar line of enquiry with Zoi Sadowski-Synnott and again found no content or citation in the article that supported the categorisation as of Polish descent. However, with a search on ProQuest, I found this: [3], which does back up the claim. So the action required is to add brief content and this citation to the article, and then add the same citation to the list of notable people. Are you happy to do this ? Again just get back to me if you would like a brief demo and chat about using ProQuest and citing sources from ProQuest. Marshelec (talk) 08:38, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, I'm interested in learning about ProQuest but I'm having problems with loging-into ProQuest, I don't have a "school/institution e-mail address" the website also states that personal Gmail accounts are not compatible. Yvanyblog (talk) 09:37, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- My access to ProQuest is via a Wellington City Libraries institutional subscription. ProQuest typically remembers that I have subscriber access via the library, but it is really simple to login again via a built-in portal where I just enter my library card number and PIN. I don't know how many libraries have an arrangement with ProQuest, but it is fairly common. For instance, Christchurch City Libraries also appears as one the institutions you can select that have an access portal. Once I have demonstrated how useful ProQuest is, I think you will want to pursue options for gaining access. If you would like an online demo, and if you are available sometime today (Sunday) or tomorrow (Monday), what time would suit you ? I will then send you an online meeting link.Marshelec (talk) 18:56, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- ProQuest is also available via WP:The Wikipedia Library. Direct access to the library at [4].-gadfium 03:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Gadfium: Thanks. There may be some differences in the databases that are linked/ available through ProQuest depending on the subscription. I don't yet have a full understanding, but I have been happy with what I can find using the subscription via Wellington City Libraries when searching for information about New Zealand and Australian topics. Perhaps when searching for content about topics in other countries, the database selection offered through the Wikipedia subscription may be superior ? Marshelec (talk) 04:26, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- ProQuest is also available via WP:The Wikipedia Library. Direct access to the library at [4].-gadfium 03:58, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
- My access to ProQuest is via a Wellington City Libraries institutional subscription. ProQuest typically remembers that I have subscriber access via the library, but it is really simple to login again via a built-in portal where I just enter my library card number and PIN. I don't know how many libraries have an arrangement with ProQuest, but it is fairly common. For instance, Christchurch City Libraries also appears as one the institutions you can select that have an access portal. Once I have demonstrated how useful ProQuest is, I think you will want to pursue options for gaining access. If you would like an online demo, and if you are available sometime today (Sunday) or tomorrow (Monday), what time would suit you ? I will then send you an online meeting link.Marshelec (talk) 18:56, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- I decided to try and verify the claim of Polish descent of the first person on the list, John Blumsky, initially without success. The claim was not supported in the text of the article, or in any of the citations that I could view online. However, looking at the article for Mark Blumsky, I found a citation claiming to support Polish heritage, from a Press article. I was able to locate the Press article in ProQuest here: [2]. So there is a source supporting Polish descent for both John and his son Mark. The article for John needs a small expansion with this citation added, and the same citation could then be added for both Mark and John Blumsky in the list of notable people in Polish New Zealanders. Would you like to do that ? If you haven't used ProQuest before, I could give you a quick online demonstration and show you the use of the id parameter in the "manual" citation builder to call up the ProQuest item. Just let me know. Marshelec (talk) 08:12, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
- OK, I'll look into it. I also need assistance with adding citations to the notable Polish New Zealanders section, It should look similar to what I did in the article Russian New Zealanders. Yvanyblog (talk) 21:38, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks
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Pac-12 Conference
Hello, that sentence needs to stay because with 2 teams it would most likely defunct a conference. 107.77.196.65 (talk) 13:11, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
- It's a speculation, see WP:Crystal. Wikipedia does not predict the future. yvanyblog(talk) 20:21, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
Opihi College moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Opihi College, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Schwede66 08:11, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
The recent screenshot which you removed was not spreading any vandalism just tell me clearly why you removed that image
The recent screenshot which you removed was not spreading any vandalism just tell me clearly why you removed that image Aditya Kumar In (talk) 05:02, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- This image is possibly a copyright violation, I also suggest you contact an administrator for more assistance. yvanyblog(talk) 05:15, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- don't worry The image or the screenshot which I used is of mine so No one can give any copyright strike or claim ok
- Go and add that screenshot on the same place where I placed. Aditya Kumar In (talk) 05:22, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- Ask an administrator. I'm uncertain if your screenshot should be there, it's also unclear why you added a cartoon image on seven of the eight thumbnails. yvanyblog(talk) 05:33, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- How to ask an Administrator for that
- can You help me to reach the administratior Aditya Kumar In (talk) 05:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
- Ask an administrator. I'm uncertain if your screenshot should be there, it's also unclear why you added a cartoon image on seven of the eight thumbnails. yvanyblog(talk) 05:33, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
Invitation to an in-person meetup in Mohua / Golden Bay
Thinking about your summer break? Think about joining other Wikipedians and Wikimedians in Golden Bay / Mohua! Details are on the meetup page. There's heaps of interesting stuff to work on e.g. the oldest extant waka or New Zealand's oldest ongoing legal case. Or you may spend your time taking photos and then upload them.
Golden Bay is hard to get to and the airline flying into Tākaka uses small planes, so we are holding some seats from and to Wellington and we are offering attendees a $200 travel subsidy to help with costs.
Be in touch with Schwede66 if this event interests you and you'd like to discuss logistics. Schwede66 09:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- Do you have to be 18+ to attend? yvanyblog(talk) 23:43, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
Commenting on user talk pages after reverts
Hi there. I noticed you recently reverting some edits like this and this. After doing so, it's important you add a comment on the user's talk page. New editors aren't necessarily going to know how to view the edit summary of your reversion. By placing a comment on their talk page (such as {{Welcomeunsourced}}), you encourage them to read up on our policies, instead of simply getting frustrated their edits were removed and re-adding them. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 22:11, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Warning users after revert
Similarly, it's important you place warnings on user pages after reverting their (possibly) vandal edits. By using multiple levels of warnings, other editors can keep track of how many times users have made unconstructive edits. Generally, after the user has received four warnings, they are then reported to WP:AIV. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 22:15, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- I know about this already... I will start placing warnings more frequently. yvanyblog(talk) 22:21, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- I use Twinkle for creating these warning messages. The Twinkle tool is a bit clumsy to use, but it does produce good outputs. There are other tools, but if you are interested in Twinkle read up here: WP:TWINK... Marshelec (talk) 22:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- I rarely ever use Twinkle. I prefer using the Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace and the Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates and the source editor in general. yvanyblog(talk) 22:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- You may also wish to consider using automated tools such as Huggle when patrolling for vandalism. It will revert edits and warn users in a single keystroke. Funnyfarmofdoom (talk to me) 02:36, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
- I rarely ever use Twinkle. I prefer using the Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace and the Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates and the source editor in general. yvanyblog(talk) 22:31, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- I use Twinkle for creating these warning messages. The Twinkle tool is a bit clumsy to use, but it does produce good outputs. There are other tools, but if you are interested in Twinkle read up here: WP:TWINK... Marshelec (talk) 22:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think I can recommend Twinkle highly enough. It's used by most of our page patrollers and many admins. It means you don't have to remember the right template. It's especially useful for tagging articles for problems and pages for all types of deletion. If you didn't like it at first, then please try it again. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 04:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
Rollback
Hi Yvanyblog. After reviewing your request, I have enabled rollback on your account. Please keep the following things in mind while using rollback:
- Being granted rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle. It just adds a [Rollback] button next to a page's latest live revision - that's all. It does not grant you any additional "status" on Wikipedia, nor does it change how Wikipedia policies apply to you.
- Rollback should be used to revert clear and unambiguous cases of vandalism only. Never use rollback to revert good faith edits.
- Rollback should never be used to edit war, and it should never be used in a content-related dispute to restore the page to your preferred revision. If rollback is abused or used for this purpose or any other inappropriate purpose, the rights will be revoked.
- Use common sense. If you're not sure about something, ask!
If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into trouble or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! FASTILY 10:49, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. yvanyblog(talk) 11:23, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Draft:Bakhit Khamis
I moved the article and closed the deletion discussion that you had started on Draft:Bakhit Khamis. Your comment of "Should be moved to draft space." should have resulted in simply moving the article to the draft space if you did not feel it was ready for the main space. thank you for looking at it. Iljhgtn (talk) 13:23, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
AFDs and Draftifying articles
Hello, Yvanyblog,
Please do not bring articles to AFD if you believe they should be draftified. This is also noted in the message above this one. Draftifying is an action that can be done without engaging in a week-long debate about it. Just abide by WP:DRAFTIFY and use a tool like User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:42, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Pending changes reviewer granted
Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.
Being granted reviewer rights neither grants you status nor changes how you can edit articles. If you do not want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time.
See also:
- Wikipedia:Reviewing pending changes, the guideline on reviewing
- Wikipedia:Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
- Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators.
Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:12, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
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Cycling
Hi,
Just a quick note to let you know I reverted your edit at "Cycling". The journal article cited in the reference is freely available online, and the pagination (101651) is as given in the ref.
Best wishes, Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 22:36, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
On the "Korean Ethnic Nationalism" article undos
The version of the article that you reverted to is not neutral. It outright calls Koreans, as a whole, chauvinistic, racist, and xenophobic. It then tries to back its claims by bringing up heavily biased articles.
In truth, I believe that this article itself should be removed, as not only this notion of "ethnic nationalism" is no longer prevalent, but also very flawed (The term minjok is nothing but a Koreanized version of the Chinese word minzu and the Japanese word Minzoku. It refers to a "people", rather than a race).
However, nobody seems to have at least tried to make a vote in the form of a "talk" on removing it. Therefore, I believed that the least action possible to achieve even the tiniest bit of justice for this article, is to delete and edit the biased parts of it. That is why I did the undos.
Also I noticed that the user who kept trying to keep the biased article have somehow undone my talks to you, and deleted the whole discussion on the neutrality of that article. How is that even possible?
The user deleting all my contributions to a discussion [5] The user deleting all my contributions to the article [6] Thickmelon (talk) 01:34, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
Secondary school education
I don't agree that it's trivia where a person received their secondary school education. I do agree that it must be referenced. Just saying. Schwede66 01:21, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah I guess so... Alexeyevitch(talk) 01:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Frutiger Aero
Hello, thank you for reaching out. As you mentioned, you removed a number of my edits in which I credit Sofia 'Sofi' Lee as the person who coined the term Frutiger Aero, with the reason of lack of citation. As a matter of fact, the citation that was already there credits Sofia 'Sofi' Lee, so I was just adding the name. 2.70.67.111 (talk) 09:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Partly done, my mistake... let's stick to the sourced "Sofi lee" because the source dosen't mention her full name. Alexeyevitch(talk) 09:45, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Sandbox
Thanks for teaching me how to crap in the sandbox. 50.231.19.165 (talk) 01:28, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Please abide with the rules. Alexeyevitch(talk) 01:30, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Atomic Blonde
Regarding the edit I made to Atomic Blonde, I changed the link in the word spy to go to the espionage page. Before, the link sent the reader to the page for the 2015 film Spy, which has nothing to do with Atomic Blonde (at least as far as I can tell). The link to espionage is not necessary, but I don't see why it links to Spy. 98.110.171.165 (talk) 01:53, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Partly done, I shortened the wikilink just to "Spy". Alexeyevitch(talk) 02:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Why your Remove External Link because I am honestly Edit this pages with new info and also where give External Link Previous External pages not Found Just i want new and Fresh information to User also i am trust person upgradge wikipedia old Article with fresh and new information. Samarwaheed850 (talk) 11:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Recent hounding
I see that you quite often watch my contributions, and I have to say that it is not the most pleasant experience for me. May I ask why you are doing this?
Here are some examples:
- Sending me notices about my contributions to random non-New Zealand articles (you put down the same template twice) here and here. You've also left me a user talk message here claiming that "
your recent edits to your draft space seem to be made solely to increase your edit count...
" as I was creating the Index of September 11 attacks articles. @Schwede66: (sorry to bring you into this), but does this look like I'm trying to artificially increase my edit count?
- Here you added the location to the caption of a picture I took. The picture does not make it immediately obvious where the location is, and there is also no EXIF data detailing this, so for some reason you have gone out of your way to find the location of my picture, which is quite interesting considering that your user page says "
Intentionally doxxing a editor's personal information with malicious intent is unjustifiable and an invasion of privacy
".
- The other day you edited a non-New Zealand article nine minutes after I created it, adding a tag that it was a copy violation.
- You've also been editing random articles after I have, examples being Cancel culture and Sludge Content.
—Panamitsu (talk) 10:40, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'll occasionally look at your and other peoples contributions not just you, (usually when I'm not busy).
- I've been to near the Paraparaumu area many times and I knew where that supermarket was so I added the location... also WP:IUP#RI recommends to add location.
- If you would like me to stop regularly looking at your contibutions then sure thing. Alexeyevitch(talk) 11:05, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Alexeyevitch, that is indeed very troubling behaviour that you display. Wikihounding is disruptive and results in blocks. I suggest that you stop following this user around immediately and totally. A block may otherwise be imposed without further warning. Please confirm that you have understood this. Schwede66 11:54, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Understood. Alexeyevitch(talk) 11:56, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Alexeyevitch, that is indeed very troubling behaviour that you display. Wikihounding is disruptive and results in blocks. I suggest that you stop following this user around immediately and totally. A block may otherwise be imposed without further warning. Please confirm that you have understood this. Schwede66 11:54, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
Karen O's birthplace.
Reference #2 on the main wiki page of Karen O. "Phares, Heather. "Karen O". AllMusic. Retrieved October 28, 2015." When you click the link:(https://www.allmusic.com/artist/karen-o-mn0000186401#biography)
On the second paragraph "Born in Busan, South Korea, to a Korean mother and Polish father, Karen O spent most of her childhood in Englewood, New Jersey. While attending Ohio's Oberlin College, she met drummer Brian Chase."
The person who wrote the article, Karen O, wrote Seoul instead of Busan for some reason even though the article he/she referenced states that she was born in Busan. Not Seoul. 104.172.38.254 (talk) 08:09, 18 December 2023 (UTC)