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Your revert on Strawberry Lane, Hammond, Louisiana

I have reverted the Huggle revert you made on Strawberry Lane, Hammond, Louisiana because the creator did not vandalize the article or add any BLP=defaming material. Monument101 (talk · contribs) improved the article and removed the prod. Prods can be removed by anyone, even the page creator (I'm sure you know this already.). Your final warning message to Monument101 is very bitey and may have caused this user to stop making improvements to the article. Could you strike out the final warning you gave to Monument101 and leave a message to the new user explaining that the user did not vandalize Wikipedia? Thanks, Cunard (talk) 06:19, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I have struck out the vandalism message. Cunard (talk) 23:38, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Isabella Karle

Number 589 (459 create/expand - 130 nominations)

On September 27, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Isabella Karle, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 15:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC) 20:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Teaneck

Long time no see ;) Anyway, I'm reassessing Teaneck, New Jersey's GA status as part of WP:SWEEPS, an effort to make sure older GAs are up to current criteria. You'll be able to see my review on the article talk page or here. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 12:42, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

I still have a few more issues, but I don't have time to bring them up specifically right now. Basically, fix the dead links found with this tool and reference any unreferenced paragraphs. I'll give you seven days starting when I post the specific issues on the review page, so you have plenty of time. Cheers, Mm40 (talk) 23:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Would like your eyes on this...

Since you were the warning editor on the "Travis Bickle" edit war, I'd like your opinion on Talk:Travis Bickle#Recent edit war and handling of this article.

Thanks

- J Greb (talk) 03:00, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Huggle Mess-up

Hey there, I'd just like to point out this revert; I thought you would like to know about it. Thanks! --Addihockey ^(t/c) 17:00, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. The page had been effectively blanked, but what I restored to had some vandalism. I had patiently waited to verify the version that was restored, but Huggle would not show it for me. Thanks for making the correction. Alansohn (talk) 17:02, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Jerome Karle

Number 590 (460 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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NW (Talk) 04:42, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Gurwin

Number 591 (461 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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BorgQueen (talk) 18:30, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Freddy Bienstock

Number 592 (462 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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BorgQueen (talk) 12:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit War

Reverting someones contributions more than once is a big no no, especially when it's not vandalism but true and verifiable information. Sometimes a 'gardener' can kill the flowers too. If you saw the film, you would know it's all true, but to revert something that you obviously have no knowledge about is lame.

you are awarded the: Bad Editor Star !!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.225.85 (talk) 04:24, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Law and Order SVU season 11

Hello Alan - maybe you can tell me why all the edits about the Season 11 episodes are still being allowed when the only citations have been Twitter pages, unconfirmed blogs and "I am right, wait and see". I try very hard to get things right on Wikipedia, but I hope you can understand why it is confusing for some rules to be enforced and not others. If you cannot help me, perhaps you can refer me to someone who can? Thank you very much. Triste Tierra (cannot log in at work) 24.176.191.234 (talk) 19:38, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, but I will look at this issue in more detail before taking any further action on this matter. Alansohn (talk) 23:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Johnny LoBianco

Number 593 (463 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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NW (Talk) 18:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikis Take Manhattan

WHAT Wikis Take Manhattan is a scavenger hunt and free content photography contest aimed at illustrating Wikipedia and StreetsWiki articles covering sites and street features in Manhattan and across the five boroughs of New York City.

LAST YEAR'S EVENT

• Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Fall 2008 (a description of the results, and the uploading party)
• Commons:Wikis Take Manhattan (our cool team galleries)
• Streetfilms: Wikis Take Manhattan (our awesome video)

WINNINGS? The first prize winning team members will get Eye-Fi Share cards, which automatically upload photos from your camera to your computer and to sites like Flickr. And there will also be cool prizes for other top scorers.

WHEN The hunt will take place Saturday, October 10th from 1:00pm to 6:30pm, followed by prizes and celebration.

WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)!

REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand.

WHERE Participants can begin the hunt from either of two locations: one at Columbia University (at the sundial on college walk) and one at The Open Planning Project's fantastic new event space nestled between Chinatown and SoHo. Everyone will end at The Open Planning Project:

• Wikis Take Manhattan page at The Open Planning Project

148 Lafayette Street

between Grand & Howard Streets

FOR UPDATES

Please watchlist Wikipedia:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan. This will have a posting if the event is delayed due to weather or other exigency.

Thanks,

Pharos

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list.
This has been an automated delivery by BrownBot (talk) 20:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism Warning

Hi, I noticed you just gave me a vandalism warning, but I don't think it was fair. All I did was remove a horizontal line as part of my own comment on a talk page that I had accidentally added on my previous edit instead of my signature. Can you please help me understand why this is vandalism? --Zoeydahling (talk) 17:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that's how I read it as well. Would you like to revert that? --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:44, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. :-)--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:02, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Wolfe Kelman

Number 594 (464 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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BorgQueen (talk) 04:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Naamah Kelman

Number 595 (465 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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BorgQueen (talk) 04:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

New user category

I saw Category:Wikipedians who say CfD is broken and thought of you. Occuli (talk) 11:01, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Email

I sent you an email message a couple days ago. Did you receive it? If so, are you amenable to the idea? ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I did receive the email. I'm still seriously considering your suggestion and will get back to you as soon as possible. Alansohn (talk) 18:48, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I just wanted to make sure it hadn't been lost out in the ether. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:15, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Just following up since it's been a couple weeks. Feel free to reply via email if you wish. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:57, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Jan Peter Balkenende

Would you mind reverting edits on the Jan Peter Balkenende back to your last edit. It is a bunch of spam after that. And then, if you wouldn't mind, could you point me to a page were I might learn how to revert back to last best edit. I know how to revert the most recent, but not how to revert back several edits. Thanks Dkriegls (talk) 19:12, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK

Hi. Would you have time to please assess if this article fulfills the requirements for inclusion into the WP:DYK list? Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 22:22, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Size-wise it seems fine. Do you have a hook for the article? Alansohn (talk) 03:42, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

Just wanted to let you know that apparently I did not read the article, as I was trying to stop vandalism. Thank you for pointing that out to me!!!--NemesisofReason 15:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for W. Horace Carter

Number 596 (466 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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SoWhy 00:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

why

my reasoning is sound I don't know why you're calling it vandalism —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.219.32 (talk) 03:23, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for being awsome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.219.32 (talk) 03:30, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit on Chetniks

The section that i removed was not ever proven nor did it include documentation. Historians have never accused Draza Mihailovich of mass murder. The title of the section itself is intended to inflame by using 1990's terminology in the context of WWII. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnMSJ (talk • contribs) 03:56, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

There may well be proper justifications, but removal of large sections of text without any explanation is problematic. Please be careful to always provide edit summaries for all of your edits, but be especially detailed when removing content. Alansohn (talk) 12:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Boogaloodoo

I don't know how to use this system properly yet. pls edit as needed.

user boogaloodoo - citing external resources. so i would have to get my own experience written up in official document form before i can add it into wiki ? Boogaloodoo (talk) 04:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

See reply on user talk page. Alansohn (talk) 12:29, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Mimi Weddell

Number 597 (467 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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Mifter (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Far Rockaway High School

Number 598 (468 create/expand - 130 nominations)

On October 9, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Far Rockaway High School, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (see the pageview stats(?)) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Mifter (talk) 12:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Removal of Erroneous Information

I left a blank space here http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Gospel_of_Judas#Scholarly_debates because there is no reason for April's information to be there. The New York Times "Article" is merely an online opinion post. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/01/opinion/01deconink.html?_r=2&oref=slogin

Daimon is very clearly used to be NOT a demon in gnostic texts. Her lack of supportive references outside of her personal opinion blog deem it necessary to remove.

Hans Dieter Betz, Professor of New Testament, Divinity School, University of Chicago.

I will review further. Alansohn (talk) 04:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Anti-Vandal Efforts

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For a speedy response to vandalism on Talk:Faggot, you are awarded this barnstar. Take care! --Delta1989 (talk) 00:57, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the recogniiton! Alansohn (talk) 04:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Verisk Analytics

Number 599 (469 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 18:28, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Major League Baseball leaders in RBI in one inning

Number 600 (470 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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SoWhy 13:26, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For your huge amounts of vandal fighting. Pikiwyn talk 13:37, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the recognition! Alansohn (talk) 03:06, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I Did Nothing

i didnt do anything —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.109.193.2 (talk) 01:25, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

What Template do you use for Vandalism?

I found this, and thought it would be useful. How did you do it? User_talk:Korpatelik - Your Vandalism post - Rttam (talk) 02:59, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I use WP:HUGGLE, which generates messages on its own. Alansohn (talk) 03:07, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Daniel Henney revert

Why was my edit bad? did i vandalize something. Please don't revert without giving a reason. You can't just say it is "bad." That is close to vandalism. 97.124.252.13 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:10, 12 October 2009 (UTC).

There was an accidental type of "actor" becoming "ctor." I fixed that one. Everything is ok now. 97.124.252.13 (talk) 03:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Psychiatry

Durwoodie's material was unsourced. His reference was "Any of the few places where mental patients get to speak out, although their voice is rarely heard." Could you revert your revert, please? XD MichaelExe (talk) 15:01, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

I reverted my revert. I agree that the content is inappropriate. Alansohn (talk) 15:05, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for John J. Wild

Number 601 (471 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 15:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Edward Gelsthorpe

Number 602 (472 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 15:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Cran-Apple juice

Number 603 (473 create/expand - 130 nominations)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 15:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Franklin Borough School District

Hello! Your submission of Franklin Borough School District at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Geraldk (talk) 18:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Little Green House on K Street

Hello! Your submission of Little Green House on K Street at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Geraldk (talk) 18:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

This one's a little nitpicky, I know. Geraldk (talk) 18:52, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

NY Rangers history

Why did you label my edit as vandalism? It has a legit source (from the NY Times no less) and was not meant to be immflamatory. Commandr Cody (talk) 01:36, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Meadowlands Rail Line

Number 604 (473 create/expand - 131 nominations)

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Giants27 (talk) 09:28, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Coleman v. Schwarzenegger

Hello! Your submission of Coleman v. Schwarzenegger at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Geraldk (talk) 11:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Eyes

I was offering advice. Have you ever been poked in the eye? With a finger, key or otherwise? I bet you didn't like it very much. 92.12.119.209 (talk) 12:25, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Hypersonic effect

Please don't make reverts in future without first reading the discussion page. Meyer Moran has nothing to do with ultrasonics, and the reference is completely irrelevant. The source files do not contain ultrasonic material, and so provide nothing of relevance to the hypersonic effect. Cheers and thanks (KrodMandooon (talk) 12:28, 13 October 2009 (UTC))

FYI: Sockpuppetry case Pptweddie

As you left a warning message on User talk:Pptweddie, you may be interested in Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Pptweddie. Cheers, --4wajzkd02 (talk) 16:32, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

How dare you

Specious, qualitative judgments of other people's edits based on willful ignorance and purposeful misinterpretation of important principles are against Wikipedia policy and have no business being committed here. If your argument isn't strong enough to convince your opponents (or anyone else for that matter) you have no business reverting an article using such transparent tactics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.32.188.25 (talk) 17:07, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

wp:npa and wp:agf please --UltraMagnus^speak 17:10, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Peter T. Farrell

Number 605 (474 create/expand - 131 nominations)

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SoWhy 21:28, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Carlos D. Ramirez

Number 606 (475 create/expand - 131 nominations)

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SoWhy 21:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Reply

Check my talk page please, there appears to be a mistake. Many thanks. --Aiken drum (talk) 21:31, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Lord Avie

Hello! Your submission of Lord Avie at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 23:23, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Personal reference

You, understandably so, wrote me informing why my edit to BYD Auto page was edited back out by Fleetham. I would like to petition an exception based on the "ignore all rules" idea of creating an honest, informative encyclopedia. The information provided is based on personal experience at the car show, observing the vehicles and people's reactions and critiques of the vehicles. I have a couple of pictures to back up the leaks I claim. I believe the idea behind Wikipedia and the "ignore all rules" rule is an open, honest, and unbiased source, even if that requires information to be based on personal knowledge. I am not attempting to discredit BYD, as I did not edit out any of the positive information, and praised the interior quality of the vehicles. Please let me know if seeing my pictures would allow my edit to stand. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.56.178 (talk) 13:17, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is built on reliable (WP:RS) and verifiable (WP:V) sources. While I don't doubt that your report is accurate, I have no way of confirming it to a source in a book, magazine or newspaper. Given the scope of the problems, such as fluids leaking in the display car, it's hard not too expect that the incident would have been covered in the local media. Please add the required sources and please review WP:NOR which documents policy about the "original research" you have done on the subject. Please feel free to reach out with any other questions. Alansohn (talk) 13:28, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Stop.

I have recently added content to the List of Characters in Metalocalypse, only for it to be deleted repetedly. The content may have SEEMED offensive, but if you were familliar with the show in any way you'd KNOW that the content was true. On top of that all you would need to do is actaully read the article to realize that my content was verifyable, instead of reading the first paragraph of it and deciding that I was vandalizing. I think Wikipedia would be a better place if you wouldn't delete content of others in a subject you obviously know absolutly nothing of. And I know I'm not the only one you've done this too, and now your saying my account will be deleted because you know nothing about the articles you're supposedly "cleaning up". So from now on, before deleting the content of others, make sure you actually know what you're doing. Stay off of articles you don't know anything about if you're looking to clean things up. So what? Are you just going to not reply to this? I'd like an apology please. -Jordan

The issue I had with the edits was related to removal of content and sourcing. I stand by the warnings but understand your position. Alansohn (talk) 00:33, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit done on the Gainesville, Florida article

Hi! I noticed you reverted my edit of a link about the University of Florida. I changed that link because it was incorrect; the text of the article said something to the effect that the Gainesville campus was the third-largest in the US, but linked to an enrollment list instead, on which UF was further down. UF was indeed third on the campus-size list, so I changed the link thinking that was originally what the text of the article intended. I apologize if I made this assumption in error; otherwise, please change it so that the correct link is reflected in the text. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.67.124 (talk) 21:16, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Let me review the changes and ensure that the correct link is used. I will remove the warning as soon as possible. Alansohn (talk) 21:19, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I don't make many changes, but I try to correct things when I notice they appear incorrect. Usually I just stick to typos and blatant vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.3.67.124 (talk) 00:03, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for United States Army Provost Marshal General

Number 607 (475 create/expand - 132 nominations)

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SoWhy 03:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Peg Mullen

Number 608 (476 create/expand - 132 nominations)

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SoWhy 03:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Douglas Watt (critic)

Number 609 (477 create/expand - 132 nominations)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 09:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Lord Avie

Number 610 (477 create/expand - 133 nominations)

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≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 09:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Angelo Errichetti

Hello! Your submission of Angelo Errichetti at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! (Specifically, issues with it being classified as a stub under WikiProject Biography). Thanks! -- Casmith_789 (talk) 11:05, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Theodore Trautwein

Number 611 (478 create/expand - 133 nominations)

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SoWhy 15:28, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Coleman v. Schwarzenegger

Number 612 (478 create/expand - 134 nominations)

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SoWhy 21:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Hello

Regarding this edit I don't really believe that the edit was Vandalism, maybe just a bit of confusion.--SKATER ^Speak. 22:36, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

There should have been more reverted. Check subsequent and previous edits from the editor in question about the giant squid. Alansohn (talk) 02:04, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

About the article Thinking

It seems to me, that there is not room for a real discussion about subjects on Wikipedia.

Now, my attempts to reflect upon what thinking is, have been eradicated twice now, by

experienced editor's, without a comment. To me it seems that there is a censorship

involved in this type of behaviour, and that is, by my opinion not fruitfull for

the wonderful service that Wikipedia is. I am restoring my article on 'Thinking'.

Now, if you have any objections, we can talk on the discussion pages. Hribers (talk) 22:53, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

WHY

do you "editors" take this so seriously? The children at deland high schools just wish to get a laugh every now and then and would appreciate it if you "editors" wouldnt delete them so quickly. In addition if you were intelligent in any way you would see that there are a few other things on the page that shouldnt be there but as I have noticed you aren't the sharpest tack. I'm sure you don't anything better to do than delete articles on wikipedia, so enjoy your boring, meaningless life and I will be on my way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.104.64.44 (talk) 02:22, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not facebook, myspace, or a MMORPG. If you want childish kicks, go to one of those places. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:25, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Plata v. Schwarzenegger

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DYK for Franklin Borough School District

Number 613 (479 create/expand - 134 nominations)

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{{User0|Hamiltonstone 09:28, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Raymond A. Brown

Number 614 (480 create/expand - 134 nominations)

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{{User0|Hamiltonstone 09:28, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Think this is your minus

Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia... Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism... Please read the Vandalism article again.

Please do not think highly of yourself to have the rights of accusing others of Vandalism. I have not done it deliberately in my attempt to contribute to Wikipedia. If I (the real person) really have the intention (and i do not have the intention to vandalize) to vandalize pages, you think you can really stop me by threatening to block me with the “nature” of Wikipedia architecture? Please.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidyeotb (talk • contribs)

Adding material that represents original research (See WP:NOR) and is unsourced personal opinion will be removed as vandalism. Alansohn (talk) 17:38, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

WP:NOR stated "Wikipedia does not publish original research or original thought" and did not stated it is vandalism". I understand where you coming from now, but please do not use strong word such as vandalize (guess that is why so many defaced your pages), unless you have seen the history of that person proven to be doing so deliverately and repeatedly. You know? It really hurting when you try to do good and someone just "accuse" you of the negative. I would be more thankful if you have shown me WP:NOR first and not use such strong word. Please respect the talk page guidelines --- David Yeo T .B. (talk) --- 02:40, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposed major reforms to decade articles

Hi - I noticed you have contributed recently to one or more of the decade articles (1990s, 1960s etc). I am proposing some major changes to these articles, as I have outlined in Talk:1990s/Archives/2012#Suggested_reform_of_decade_articles, and I would be interested in hearing your views in the first instance. Thanks. Kransky (talk) 08:58, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry.

Couldn't help myself,i came too early.

What can I say?

Not much. Alansohn (talk) 02:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Gilberto Zaldívar

Number 615 (481 create/expand - 134 nominations)

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Thanks for the contribution. Halloween DYK?Victuallers (talk) 02:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Continuity of Government Commission

Number 616 (482 create/expand - 134 nominations)

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Wikipedia:Did you know 10:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Little Green House on K Street

Number 617 (482 create/expand - 135 nominations)

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Thanks for the contribution to the Wiki Victuallers (talk) 18:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Okay, okay

I realized by mistake before you sended the message for my edit to Treehouse of Horror XX. I was confused for a second and thought that it was still season 20. So, the message was pretty useless. 66.231.12.116 (talk) 01:43, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Angelo Errichetti

Number 618 (483 create/expand - 135 nominations)

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Wikipedia exists due to the contributions of volunteers like you. Thanks Victuallers (talk) 02:00, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Heart of Stone (documentary film)

Number 619 (484 create/expand - 135 nominations)

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SoWhy 10:00, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Bourne

Number 620 (484 create/expand - 136 nominations)

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SoWhy 10:01, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Washington Commons

You might be interested to know that your reversion on Washington Commons is tied to an IP range that has been re-adding the same crap over and over again, attacking me quite viciously in the process. See details here. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 19:36, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I will look at this in more detail, especially if it recurs. Thanks for the heads up. Alansohn (talk) 19:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Young America Stakes

Number 621 (485 create/expand - 136 nominations)

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Bencherlite^Talk 21:50, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Slingshot (water vapor distillation system)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Ten Most Venomous Snakes

Template:Ten Most Venomous Snakes has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Mokele (talk) 13:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Trantino

Number 622 (486 create/expand - 136 nominations)

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Bencherlite^Talk 13:42, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for J. Graham Parsons

Number 623 (486 create/expand - 137 nominations)

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Bencherlite^Talk 21:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Fred C. Galda

Number 624 (487 create/expand - 137 nominations)

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Bencherlite^Talk 21:43, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Ernest Blood

Number 625 (488 create/expand - 137 nominations)

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Bencherlite^Talk 21:44, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Slingshot (water vapor distillation system)

Number 626 (489 create/expand - 137 nominations)

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Bencherlite^Talk 05:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for William B. Quandt

Number 627 (489 create/expand - 138 nominations)

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Bobamnertiopsis (talk) 13:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Monica C. Lozano

Number 628 (490 create/expand - 138 nominations)

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Bobamnertiopsis (talk) 13:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Small note

You reverted an edit on Immigration recently using HG, but the edit didn't do anything. Hope it's a temporary issue. Edit: Nevermind, the page itself seems to be messed up; I tried reverting it to the last revision by ClueBot but my edit disappeared while the correct page version showed up in your edit. ._. Eugeniu Bmsg 18:35, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Andy Zipf

Hi, you reverted an edit I made to the Andy Zipf page and warned about vandalism. Huh? I added the fact that he is now in the band The Lost Chorus. Check the band's myspace page for verification www.myspace.com/thelostchorus. Glastonbury27 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 04:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC).

DYK for Apostolic Prefecture of the United States

Number 629 (490 create/expand - 139 nominations)

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— Jake Wartenberg 05:56, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

US Capitol Guide service

Your revision to the US Capitol Guide service was wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.231.249.141 (talk) 15:56, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Mary E. Surratt Boarding House

Thanks for developing the Mary E. Surratt Boarding House. Once i saw it met DYK eligibility i was going to put it up for DYK, and am glad to see you have, here. I'm going to add APK for taking the pic, too, and he will probably add more, also. Thanks! doncram (talk) 01:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

It was my pleasure to expand the article. Please feel free to make any necessary changes or alternatives to the hook and I will keep on working on the article. Alansohn (talk) 14:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

good how are you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.105.183.2 (talk) 12:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Just to let you know

I think you've made a wrong revert here since it wasn't vandalism. Crapper123456 (talk) 14:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Daniel Melnick

Number 630 (491 create/expand - 139 nominations)

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Gatoclass (talk) 15:03, 23 October 2009 (UTC) 19:08, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Sam Zolotow

Number 631 (492 create/expand - 139 nominations)

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— Jake Wartenberg 01:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Unconstructive x 2

In what way was my edit unconstructive? It would shed some light on Heathmont's problems as well as be a catalyst for change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.108.42.34 (talk) 12:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Unconstructive??

In what way was my edit unconstructive? Tabasco sauce is a condiment. Simply because you do not like the substance of another person's edit, you are not given the right to autocratically remove such contributions. That a condiment is being used as an ingredient in a product attempting to claim legitimacy, I believe, is a very relevant point, as a more legitimate product would isolate the active ingredients in that condiment and include only those, it is a matter of questioning the seriousness of a product. Don't change something simply because you don't like it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.73.34.109 (talk) 23:44, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Indeed, i wrote pure truth "Boll was born as a larva in Wermelskirchen.When he became a full grown maggot and left the intestinal tract of his previous host, he succesfuly made a parasitic attachment in the bowels of Burt Reynolds.This was before he became a full grown slitherin worm. After his "iniciation" in the intestinal tract,he quickly became famous for the diarrheal discharge his infections produced. He studied at the University of Cologne and the University of Siegen, and holds a doctorate in literature."

and they said that it was unconstructive...sheesh,wikipedia sux.I will make a petition to our comunity where i am the Mayor (234 000 of inhabitants) to spread the word how wikipedia is COMMUNIST and refrain from using it (i also own telecom. company and will ban wikipedia) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.61.121.17 (talk) 03:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Clarification on your edit of "The Nitty Gritty (song)"

I had added a short paragraph on the meaning of "nitty-gritty", then you deleted it. There has been Web discussions about a non-documented idea about the origin of "nitty-gritty. I inserted this to clarify what "nitty-gritty" meant in this song. I did not understand your comment: "the meaning of the title is not meaningfully included". Had you meant that the deleted paragraph did not address the meaning of "nitty-gritty" in the title of this song in particular? Pete unseth (talk) 20:14, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

• Pete unseth, I have no idea what the author of the song meant by "nitty gritty" in the title of the song. Providing a dictionary definition of the term does not have any necessary connection to what it means in the song. If you were writing the article Nitty-gritty, it would belong there, but it doesn't belong in the article about the song, where it's WP:SYNTH. Alansohn (talk) 19:21, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Reverting removal of www

Hi there. I'm curious as to why you reverted on these two edits. You don't really provide any explanation as to why you reverted it. www is no longer needed in domain URLs under http specs and is considered archaic, but the main reason for removing them is to prevent wrapping of the URL in the infobox. Adding back the completely superfluous wwws does nothing to help the links but more importantly cause them to line wrap. Canterbury Tail talk 18:55, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I put it back in places where it didn't need to be removed. Alansohn (talk) 20:27, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Those two instances now wrap on most browsers with the unnecessary www, which is why I removed them. Canterbury Tail talk 20:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Canterbury Tail, I've had no issue with wrapping in either article and I'm not sure how you've determined that this is an issue with most browsers. If it were an encyclopedia-wide defect, the www prefix would be prohibited, removed automatically by the template or systematically by a bot. The absence of all of this indicates that the issue is not a Wikipedia problem in general, but an issue with the way your screen and browser are set up. Alansohn (talk) 11:31, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I think you may have misunderstood the occasional problem here. I've checked it on multiple devices and browsers and in many instances on Chromium based browsers (Chrome on Windows (but not on iOS as that's actually Safari), Edge etc.) with default skin and font, the URL for these particular ones is wrapping at times due to the width of the infobox. It's just a pure factor of the length of the URL and not any kind of a special issue of the www itself. No one has come around and said that www is prohibited or needs to be automatically removed or it's something a bot should or shouldn't do, it's just purely that in some instances the text is too long and causes it to wrap sometimes that's all. Removing the www prevents this wrapping in these particular cases. It doesn't happen in Safari based browsers such as running on a Mac or iOS system (but it would if it was a single character longer it's an artifact of how some handle the fonts). There's no systemic issue here, or technical problem, just sometimes they're too long and occasionally wrap and dropping the unneeded www helps with that. I'm not sure why removing a piece of redundant information that improves the viewing experience for some users is such a big deal here that it needs to be reversed. Canterbury Tail talk 14:49, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Canterbury Tail, again your viewing experience does not match mine or those of millions of other readers. At best, you have addressed your own personal nit. Alansohn (talk) 19:19, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Okay, say that is true, what is the policy reason for reverting it? We've both been here a very very long time, we both know what we're doing but it comes across that you're just being dismissive and reverting because you're not seeing it in your setup at this time which is the same thing you're saying I'm doing. Canterbury Tail talk 19:29, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Canterbury Tail, it's a part of the URL and interferes with the purpose of the template to provide the URL and to allow that to be used for other purposes as described by the template's documentation. I cannot understand how you believe that violating this purpose advances the encyclopedia, but then again, as the expression goes "I say tomato and you say that letters should be arbitrarily removed from the word for no legitimate purpose other than it looks better in your browser on your computer with your settings". Alansohn (talk) 19:35, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

You don't need to keep pinging me. www is no longer a required part of a web address, it's a redundant archaic part of an old system that is no longer required. It was there to identify something as a web page, something that's since been superseded. Comparting it to me removing letters from tomato is apples to oranges and not even remotely an apt comparison. Domains are now just the main domain plus the extension, prefixes like www and others are subparts and www is now ignored (but still displayed if the user or source routing used it.) Anyway it's clear we aren't going to meet eye to eye. I was just trying to make things better for some users by removing the zero value part of the domain (for the domains that don't require the www, I would never remove it for old servers that aren't updated and do still require it) and that could be removed to tidy make some people display better. Dropping the www isn't undermining the template in any way or violating anything, even the template documentation utilizes URLs without the wwws, even for the same ones. Many infoboxes are now instructing users to drop the www due to this, but Infobox settlement doesn't do so at this time. Unfortunately Template:Nowrap doesn't really work. I guess wrapping is fine in those cases. I'll drop this discussion now for these pages. Canterbury Tail talk 20:30, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

The end of an unproductive discussion about what appear to be unproductive edits. Alansohn (talk) 21:03, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Well if you're going to be like that. Your edits were unproductive and added nothing, mine were trying to be helpful to some readers and not just what one person sees. Yours were just you didn't like it. Canterbury Tail talk 21:08, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

We have way too many www's in this encyclopedia and text for a URL rolling over onto two lines is a gigantic crisis. Keep up the pointless, purposeless edits. Alansohn (talk) 21:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

And you just keep reverting to your preference in a manner even more pointlessly. Canterbury Tail talk 21:43, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

There are way too many www's sitting out there to waste your precious time on chit-chat. Imagine the horror of readers seeing a URL split on two lines. You must keep up the work to make Wikipedia safe from this scourge! Alansohn (talk) 07:44, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

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3RR warning

Your recent editing history at New York City shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war; read about how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Seasider53 (talk) 03:55, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

• Seasider53, message received. As you are also part of the discussion at the talk page, I hope that we can all reach a consensus that removal of this content is the problem here. Thanks for reaching out and for your participation. Alansohn (talk) 04:48, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Mount Olive High School (New Jersey)alumni

A tag has been placed on Category:Mount Olive High School (New Jersey)alumni indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

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Five years is a long time. Thanks again for the recognition. Alansohn (talk) 00:48, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

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NYC and Manhattan articles

Thank you for continuing to whip these two articles back into shape Alansohn, great job! Best, Castncoot (talk) 17:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Castncoot, thanks for the recognition. There's lots more to be done. It's a big city. Alansohn (talk) 18:00, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Category

Question, is there any particular reason why you disagree that the birth year category does get listed first, example at Al Barlas? Various pages you have created in the past contradict this, such as Ellen Park, Shama Haider, Bill Moen, etc, where all birth year categories are listed first. Tinton5 (talk) 06:45, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

• Tinton5, they're different because the order makes no difference and I've yet to see a policy that requires any particular order. In even-numbered years, when a new batch of legislators take office, I'll create one article and use that to clone the others, with no particular attention to the order of categories for living people or year of birth. Alansohn (talk) 14:34, 19 January 2024 (UTC)

  Can’t they all be consistent though? That’s what I was initially trying to do. Tinton5 (talk) 17:28, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

  The order is nearly random across the encyclopedia. There is no policy and there is no consistency. If there were a clear consensus that it should be only one way, then you'd be fixing something, but this isn't the case. Alansohn (talk) 23:24, 20 January 2024 (UTC)

Category:21st-century American people by occupation and state has been nominated for splitting

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Books & Bytes – Issue 60

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South Bronx Notables

In regard to Tony Santiago, here are some sources: ;; ; ; etc.Tony the Marine (talk) 00:17, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Marine 69-71, thanks for the reply. I will review and do my best to reinsert with an appropriate source. Alansohn (talk) 00:36, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

• Now in regard to Herman Santiago and Joe Negroni, here are some sources which may be of some help: ; ;;

Anyway, thank you my friend for checking these sources. Tony the Marine (talk) 02:45, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Marine 69-71, thanks again. Alansohn (talk) 03:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Marine 69-71, I looked through all of the sources. I could not read this source from Academia.com in its entirety. Some of the other sources you listed mention the Bronx, but none of them mention a specific connection to the South Bronx. Am I missing something that you saw in these sources? Alansohn (talk) 23:05, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

• Understandable my friend, I trust you fully. However Tony Santiago was born and raised in 976 Simpson Street of the South Bronx, believe me I know (smile) Tony the Marine (talk) 20:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

"The Addams family(film)" listed at Redirects for discussion

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WikiCup 2024 February newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup is off to a flying start, with 135 participants. This is the largest number of participants we have seen since 2017.

Our current leader is newcomer Generalissima (submissions), who has one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher) and 10 GAs and 12 DYKs mostly on New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures. Here are some more noteworthy scorers:

• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), with one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, and two DYKs;
• Vami_IV (submissions), with one FA on Doom (2016 video game), one GA on Boundary Fire (2017), and 11 reviews;
• MaranoFan (submissions), with one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and two DYKs;
• Skyshifter (submissions), with one FA on OneShot and one DYK;
• Sammi Brie (submissions), with five GAs and five DYKs on television and radio stations;
• voorts (submissions) and Elli (submissions), both with one FA and one DYK each.

As a reminder, competitors may submit work for the first round until 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February, and the second round starts 1 March. Remember that only the top 64 scoring competitors will make it through to the second round; currently, competitors need at least 15 points to progress. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

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Point Pleasant

I can provide a source for when Johnny Sack mentions the condo in Season 4, that's no problem.

However I don't see how that is "trivial" under the category "In the Media". There are other TV shows mentioned in the category, so how is that not considered "trivial"? 200.88.232.180 (talk) 16:53, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

• The TV series was named Point Pleasant. The skit was called "Point Pleasant Police Department" and was a recurring bit. The mention in The Sopranos, was just that, a mention that he owns a condo in Point Pleasant. Even with a source to back it up, it still appears to be a trivial connection that doesn't match the other two. Alansohn (talk) 18:06, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

New Jersey city categories

Hi @Alansohn:! I noticed you undid my changes to add NJ cities to the Cities in New Jersey category. I had a discussion with Aymatth2 on his talk page since he was the one who originally made the Cities in New Jersey a diffused category. He mentioned that it was added by accident and has made the category non-diffused. This is in line with the standard we set for all the other 49 states (cities in the US are listed under both the state and county-level categories). Just a heads up that I will be adding back all the cities. If this is a problem for any other reason, feel free to let me know. Aurangzebra (talk) 20:10, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

• Aurangzebra, I had no idea about this discussion and there was no explanation in the edit summary. There are much easier ways to do this, and I may well add these categories while you're at it, as it applies to all of the state's 564 municipalities of all types, but of course there is no reason not to go ahead and do so. Alansohn (talk) 20:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

  Sounds good! Yea my apologies, should have left something in the edit summary. I started adding the category to cities before I realized the category was marked as diffused so I thought it would be a straightforward add. Got a few cities in before I realized so sorry for the confusion! Aurangzebra (talk) 20:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

  Aurangzebra, people get so confused by diffusing and non-diffusing categories under the best of circumstances, and I hadn't realized the change. I followed up on your thread you started with Aymatth2 to see about other municipal types in the state. Alansohn (talk) 20:20, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

  Aurangzebra, I used AWB and took care of all of the other cities, carefully skipping over the articles you had taken care of. Moving on to the other types of government. Alansohn (talk) 20:44, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you! Aurangzebra (talk) 21:11, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Upper Pittsgrove School edit reverted

Hello, I noticed you reverted my edit back in December on the Wikipedia of Upper Pittsgrove School. Why did you do this? Thanks. Antny08 (talk) 13:29, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Antny08, to be honest, I'm not sure why I reverted this edit. The consensus has been to exclude assistant principals, but the person was shifted between schools; consensus has also been to exclude mailing addresses in the body of the article. The scrambling of the order of the infobox may have led me to miss the logo change, but you listed that in your edit summary; I reinserted the logo in a separate edit. I extend my apologies for my clear error. Alansohn (talk) 19:27, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

No worries at all, thank you for the help on that Wikipedia page, I used to go to that school :) Antny08 (talk) 20:25, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Antny08, again my apologies. I hope the article does your alma mater justice, at least from a Wikipedia perspective. Alansohn (talk) 20:28, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 March newsletter

The first round of the 2024 WikiCup ended at 23:59 (UTC) on 27 February. Everyone with at least 30 points moved on to Round 2, the highest number of points required to advance to the second round since 2014. Due to a six-way tie for the 64th-place spot, 67 contestants have qualified for Round 2.

The following scorers in Round 1 all scored more than 300 points:

• Generalissima (submissions), who has 916 points mostly from one FA on John Littlejohn (preacher), 15 GAs, and 16 DYKs on a variety of topics including New Zealand coinage and Inuit figures, in addition to seven reviews
• Vami_IV (submissions), who has 790 points from two FAs on Felix M. Warburg House and Doom (2016 video game), two GAs, one DYK, and 11 reviews
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who has 580 points from one FA on Hö'elün, two GAs on Mongolia-related articles, two DYKs, and five reviews
• Sammi Brie (submissions), who has 420 points mostly from nine GAs and seven DYKs on television and radio stations
• MaranoFan (submissions), who has 351 points from one FA on Holidays (Meghan Trainor song), a nine-article FT on 30 (album), and three DYKs
• Skyshifter (submissions), who has 345 points from one FA on OneShot, one DYK and two reviews

In this newsletter, the judges would like to pay a special tribute to Vami_IV (submissions), who unfortunately passed away this February. At the time of his death, he was the second-highest-scoring competitor. Outside the WikiCup, he had eight other featured articles, five A-class articles, eight other good articles, and two Four Awards. Vami also wrote an essay on completionism, a philosophy in which he deeply believed. If you can, please join us in honoring his memory by improving one of the articles on his to-do list.

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Books & Bytes – Issue 61

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February 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award

		Citation Barnstar
		This award is given in recognition to Alansohn for collecting more than 25 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's FEB24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing 14,300 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – – DreamRimmer (talk) 18:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

DreamRimmer, thanks for the recognition, but my biggest regret is not being able to help more in helping with the backlog. Alansohn (talk) 18:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Don’t worry, you did a great job. – DreamRimmer (talk) 19:08, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

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The longest quotes in references ever seen

What's the deal with that? The quote isn't even necessary at all; one could easily just click on the citation and read it. Or they could click on the article link to the person's bio and read it there. Why the overkill? Fred Zepelin (talk) 23:40, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

And check out WP:FOOTQUOTE. None of those conditions apply in those paragraphs; it's just unnecessary clutter. I admire your apparent dedication to all things NJ, but could it be that you're letting your ownership of all of your edits get in the way of collaborative editing? Fred Zepelin (talk) 23:44, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Fred Zepelin, you beat me to it, but there is no better justification than WP:FOOTQUOTE, which states that "A footnote may also contain a relevant exact quotation from the source. This is especially helpful when the cited text is long or dense. A quotation allows readers to immediately identify the applicable portion of the reference." As two sentences seemed too much to bear -- one clearly indicating who is being described and the second associating him with the place -- I have eliminated the first sentence in the spirit of collaborative editing. I more than understand that there are people who just want to point at a reference by name and hope that readers will wade through the source to find the relevant text or assume that the desired source will be available in some other article. I prefer, for the benefit of all future editors and readers, to be explicit in enabling "... readers to immediately identify the applicable portion of the reference" and I treat that as a best practice in all of my editing. I can't force you or any other editor to include quotations when adding references, but I fail to see what the objection is to their inclusion. Alansohn (talk) 00:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

The cited source is not "long or dense". It's literally two paragraphs. Based on that, you don't need to include a quote at all, but if you insist, at least trim it to the 25 words that support the fact you need supported. Fred Zepelin (talk) 00:03, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Fred Zepelin, as you insist, please point me to the 25-word maximum policy. Alansohn (talk) 00:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

The policy actually says don't put in a quote unless the cited source is "long or dense", which it isn't, and there are several other possible conditions where a quote would be useful, none of which are met. Are you seriously going to fight about keeping in extraneous information that is completely unrelated to the relationship between the subject and the town(s) he's from? I thought that was really odd until I looked at this; I guess you've gotten better in the last 5 years but really, take a step back and look at what you're fighting about here. Fred Zepelin (talk) 00:10, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Fred Zepelin, there are three sentences I cited directly from WP:FOOTQUOTE: "A footnote may also contain a relevant exact quotation from the source. This is especially helpful when the cited text is long or dense. A quotation allows readers to immediately identify the applicable portion of the reference." Sentence one says quotations can be used; there is no possible alternative reading. Sentence three explains why it's useful to use them and the purpose it serves to include them. Sentence two does not say "don't put in a quote unless the cited source is 'long or dense'" as you falsely claim; it says that quotations are "especially helpful" in such cases.

This is exactly why I keep full sentences; it prevents con artists from misrepresenting what the source actually says by using sentence fragments in a deliberately deceptive manner.

It astonishes me that you are seriously engaging in a battle based on the complete and utter misrepresentation of the guidelines you claim to be enforcing. Please stop wasting any further of my time and refrain from leaving any further messages here. Alansohn (talk) 00:24, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

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Ocean County, New Jersey

That source that you keep on adding to that page is opinionated and it's original research, the same way you reverted all of the edits I made putting the rest of the counties in specific categories saying it was "original research" just because I have it a certain way. I don't know why you keep on removing the sources I cited and re-adding that source on those pages especially if the sources I added were more relevant to the pages. Those pages should have been left alone when I cited the sources to back it up.

I'm not reverting any of your other edits because i'm not trying to start another edit war but i'm just trying to understand why you think like this. MidAtlanticBaby (talk) 07:15, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

• MidAtlanticBaby, when you edited the article for Union County, New Jersey here to say that "Union County is unique in that it extends across both North and Central Jersey", you didn;t add a source; you helpfully explained "Those are the boundaries of the municipalities and the regions the municipalities are located in tho … And I know they are". Basing an edit on what you "know" to be true is the very definition of WP:Original Research.
  There is disagreement about which counties are parts of North Jersey, Central Jersey or South Jersey; and there are opinions that there is no such thing as Central Jersey. In his statement about signing bill S3206 promoting Central Jersey tourism into law in August 2023, Governor Murphy says "The 'Central Jersey' region will be comprised of, at minimum, the counties of Hunterdon, Mercer, Middlesex, and Somerset." The bill does not say that no other counties are included; it says that the four listed counties are "at minimum" part of Central Jersey.
  My edit for Ocean County, New Jersey, says that it is considered part of Central Jersey but wasn't included as one of the four counties in the 2023 legislation; I used a reliable and verifiable source to say that it was included and another source from the same newspaper saying it wasn't one of the four included "at minimum" by the state; your edit removes all of those details and says that Ocean County is part of the Jersey Shore.
  I'm not sure what that adds as the article already says in the first sentence that it's part of the Jersey Shore. The Jersey Shore runs north-south, while the North / Central / South slices run east-west. A county can be both part of the Jersey Shore AND part of North / Central / South Jersey. The question is why are you deleting that? Alansohn (talk) 12:07, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

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Guild of Copy Editors April 2024 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the April 2024 newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since December. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. We extend a warm welcome to all of our new members. We wish you all happy copy-editing. Election results: In our December 2023 coordinator election, Zippybonzo stepped down as coordinator; we thank them for their service. Incumbents Dhtwiki and Miniapolis were reelected coordinators, and Wracking was newly elected coordinator, to serve through 30 June. Nominations for our mid-year Election of Coordinators will open on 1 June (UTC). Drive: 46 editors signed up for our January Backlog Elimination Drive, 32 of whom claimed at least one copy-edit. Between them, they copy-edited 289 articles totaling 626,729 words. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: 23 editors signed up for our February Copy Editing Blitz. 18 claimed at least one copy-edit and between them, they copy-edited 100,293 words in 32 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: 53 editors signed up for our March Backlog Elimination Drive, 34 of whom claimed at least one copy-edit. Between them, they copy-edited 300 articles totaling 587,828 words. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: Sign up for our April Copy Editing Blitz, which runs from 14 to 20 April. Barnstars will be awarded here. Progress report: As of 23:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 109 requests since 1 January 2024, and the backlog stands at 2,480 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from Baffle gab1978 and your GOCE coordinators Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Wracking. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

WikiCup 2024 April newsletter

We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.

Our current top scorers are as follows:

• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
• voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
• Generalissima (submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
• SounderBruce (submissions) with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs;
• Tamzin (submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
• Kusma (submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.

Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.

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WikiCup 2024 May newsletter

The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.

The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:

• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
• Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
• SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
• BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
• voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.

The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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Lack of clarity in board member counts on several New Jersey school district articles

I ran the error avoidance script I compiled in the past couple days in reverse to fix the 'comprised of' replacements within quotes that I accidentally made in my original replacement run, so most, if not all, are now back to how they were written in the source material.

Whether due to how the articles were automatically generated, changes to how individual districts are run since the creation of those articles, or a combination of both, I noticed that several New Jersey school district articles (such as Knowlton Township, Woodlynne, Brigantine, Pitman, Plumsted Township, New Hanover Township, and Magnolia school districts) listed board member counts that contradicted the figure stated in one of the sources given. As in most cases it listed 7 members versus the source's claim of 9, I'm guessing that while the board does have 9 members, this comprises 7 elected members and the two that those seven then appoint, with the source stating 9 being a database that doesn't take that into account. As I wasn't certain, I marked each with a contradictory tag until they can be reviewed for thoroughly, though if the boards in school districts of that type are indeed composed of 7 elected trustees and 2 appointed members, making that clearer would be beneficial. In the case of the Magnolia school district, the article had listed 5 despite the source again stating 9, so I'm not sure what happened in that case.

However, per the aforementioned inaccuracies, instances where number ranges are written like 'grades 10-12' instead of 'grades 10 to 12', and the outdated list of schools that was on the article for Trenton, New Jersey before I replaced it with an updated table, it seems that more effort should be put into ensuring that the hundreds of articles that you auto-generated are accurate, formatted properly, and remain up to date. It would certainly be more worthwhile than being deliberately contrarian about areas of focus of other Wikipedia editors. -CoolieCoolster (talk) 07:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

• CoolieCoolster, sadly, many Wikipedia editors fall into the trap of believing that they are contributing to the encyclopedia if they make as many edits as possible. Once falling into this trap, many such editors become obsessed with trying to find incredibly trivial mass changes to pump up their "score", the number of edits they've made. In the grand scheme of things, such trivial edits as adjusting the length of a dash should be made by bots, as they require no brain power whatsover and are implemented by editors maniacally pressing the "save" button every few seconds. By your own count that you feel you have to share with the public at User:CoolieCoolster, more than 20% of your edits were devoted to the utterly trivial task of making a dash a little longer, something you claim to have done 9,000(!) times. While this mindless task seems like a gigantic waste of time to me, it does appear to actually be implementing a standard set in the Wikipedia Manual of Style.
  Not so for "comprised of". There is no policy, guideline, manual of style or other Wikipedia mandate that prohibits its use. It's in widely common usage and is included in millions of direct quotations. The fact that you were so mindlessly obsessed with "fixing" this non-problem that you did not notice that you erroneously changed some 50-60 instances of "comprised of", sends a message that the bigger problem is the effort to solve this non-issue.
  I do agree that there are issues where there are internal conflicts in the sources about the size of boards of education. Remarkably, until dealing with a mass of pointless mass edits that introduced huge numbers of errors, I was dealing with this exact issue by systematically reconciling the article for school districts with the contents of the latest state report, including the district description and the roster of officials included therein.
  It is truly a bit rich to be lectured about editing practices by someone with a fetish for changing dash sizes a few hundred times per hour. In the future, when you make other equally mechanical mass edits, it would certainly be worthwhile on your part to make sure that you aren't screwing up articles.
  I'm sure that there's some equally pointless effort to "correct" split infinitives or dangling participles; maybe that could be your path to shameless self promotion in the path followed by too many other such users. Alansohn (talk) 12:02, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

  I'm not sure why you feel the need to criticize other editors for their preferred tasks, especially in the case of tasks such as en dash correction where the Manual of Style leaves no ambiguity as to what is or isn't correct. Whereas the commonality of that issue is a result of the en dash's absence from keyboards, the frequency at which 'comprised of' is used is a result of the obscurity of its opposing definitions, which, whether or not one categorizes as a grammatical error, can be easily disambiguated with an unambiguous synonymous term.

  As I mentioned, while my edits on April 22 did in several cases replace quoted instances of comprised of in references, I fixed most remaining instances following your comment yesterday by reversing the negative lookback formula I compiled to prevent such errors in more recent edits:

  (?:(?:(?:through a Board of Education|\)|...). The [bB]oard|The Township Committee|the Board of School Estimate, which|(?:operates under the Township Committee form of|form of municipal) government and|(?:The|Our) Board of Education|government. It) is |governed by an elected Board of Education )composed of ([0-9]{1,3}|one|two|three|four|five|six|seven|eight|nine|ten|eleven|twelve) members?

  While I wouldn't have tried mass-replacing instances of 'comprised of' in regular articles, as I at times wouldn't be able to replace it with an equivalent phrase accurately, the formulaic means by which these articles were written means that each instance was replaced with a fitting alternative based on context wording. When means of error prevention as listed above are included in the process, it is a relatively consistent means of making intended replacement edits.

  If any given grammatical or punctuation error were confined to one article, I'd be glad to fix them all with one edit and be done with it, but as they are instead spread out across hundreds or thousands of articles, the only means of fixing them without wasting a substantial amount of time is coming up with a script capable of replacing erroneous uses while leaving legitimate uses as they are. As with any process, it takes a few broken eggs to make an omelette, but after some fine tuning it works well. In the case of any such replacement process, if I'm told that some of my edits have been erroneous, I use the same process to go back and fix those errors. In any case, there are clearly more instances of dashes needing fixed than there are New Jersey related articles using 'comprised of' in prose, so for now I'll focus my efforts on less controversial error resolution. However, given that you have a page opposing what I can only assume was Giraffedata's attempts to fix instances of 'comprised of' in New Jersey related articles, is important to note that regardless of who it is that makes such an edit, having created the articles doesn't grant you any more say in regards to edits of prose (versus those that erroneously edit quotes) than any other editor. -CoolieCoolster (talk) 21:57, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

  CoolieCoolster, keep up the work on those dashes. You have the Manual of Style to back you up.

  Not so much for "comprised of". Merriam-Webster's definition not only makes the usage clear, but provides a number of sources from major newspapers and publications from the past week. I can provide thousands upon thousands of official governmental sources and reliable and verifiable sources showing that the usage is standard. Trying to "fix" the problem of usages of "comprised of" is as pointless as trying to prevent sentences ending with prepositions or boldly fixing split infinitives. If you make an omelet, you have to break eggs; you broke more than 50 articles in order to accomplish nothing meaningful and only fixed the problem because you had been caught, in most cases a week after the dozens of errors had been made.

  The worst part of breaking 50 articles is that you obviously have not been reviewing your work. When you're too busy maniacally pressing enter and not checking your work, mistakes will inevitably multiply. This edit to the Vineland Public Schools broke a direct quote and was one of 23 edits you made in that same minute (see here for the ballpark of that edit). Please see WP:AWBRULES, which apply to all such bot-like editing, which states that "You are responsible for every edit made. You are expected to review every edit, just as if you were making an edit using Wikipedia's edit form when editing by hand. Do not sacrifice quality for speed, and review all changes before saving."

  You cannot possibly have reviewed the finished product of each and every edit when you're spending less than three seconds per edit. Please accept your responsibility to observe policy. Alansohn (talk) 22:45, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Location mapping of prominent NJ cities/munucipalities in North America

Hi Alansohn! How about a compromise regarding location pushpin-mapping Atlantic City, Princeton, and Trenton onto North American maps, if not Earth maps? For example, Quebecois people may know that New Jersey is on the East Coast of the U.S., but they might still like to get a better handle on and context as to where, for example, Atlantic City is located relative to their own location, when they want to travel there. Seems like a pretty innocuous and potentially beneficial addition. All three of these locations are relatively cosmopolitan, and two of the three actually have commercial flights which may at some point reach Canada. What do you think? Best, Castncoot (talk) 15:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

I don't see a reply here. I would like to restore North American pushpin maps on the articles of the three aforementioned locations, but only if you will not intend to revert them, in which case I will hold off. If on the other hand I see no objection from you here for a couple of days, I'm going to interpret that as a signal that you would not be thrilled with these edits but will nevertheless tolerate them and let them stand. Best, Castncoot (talk) 04:17, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Castncoot, all of these cities are in the United States, a fairly well-known country. Many people in North America on Earth have heard of it and know where it's located. Even in articles for cities that are even more cosmopolitan than Princeton and Atlantic City, such as New York City, don't specify their location in the continent or planet. It's simply not needed for any purpose to provide any more context than location in the United States. Alansohn (talk) 04:30, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

NYC does, but that's besides the point Alansohn. It's a nice additional amenity to have at one's fingertips, just like, for example, mentioning the change in population between 2000 and 2010 in the lede, when it is readily found in the demographics section in the population history table by decade. If you would revert this innocuous edit, then I'm not going to add it. I'd appreciate knowing though, thanks. Castncoot (talk) 05:31, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

So my hope is that you may have warmed up to my proposed edits above, regarding the North American pushpin maps in the aforementioned articles. I'm planning to add these edits tomorrow if you don't tell me in advance that you would plan to revert them. I wouldn't be in the least offended if you tell me in advance that you would plan on reverting them, in which case I would avoid posting these edits in the first place, in order to avoid an unpleasant reversion after the fact. Best, Castncoot (talk) 01:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Castncoot, inclusion of maps of North America or Earth is utterly ludicrous. Any person who can access Wikipedia for an article about any place in New Jersey will be familiar with the United States. Anyone who doesn't know where the United States is on the planet Earth can dig deeper. Without broader consensus to add these maps for North America, Earth of the Solar System, they should not be added. Please don't add them without seeking that consensus, say on WP:USCITY or anywhere else. Alansohn (talk) 03:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Alansohn, I respectfully disagree. There's something known as nuance and context, where one attribute added to one NJ municipal article would not belong in another NJ municipal article due to inherent differences between the municipalities themselves. I've been asking you to respond for ample time now and you chose not to do so until after the fact. I'm not going to add any further entries, as no other NJ municipalities are notable enough to warrant them; but I would respectfully ask you not to revert anything already done, as I had courteously asked you in the paragraphs above. Castncoot (talk) 04:17, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Castncoot, I really don't know what to say anymore, as it's very hard to take any of this seriously. I'm not sure why Edison needs the "nuance and context" of its location on the planet, but Woodbridge Township or Perth Amboy (or any other place in New Jersey) does not. For that matter, I can't understand why any place would need the continent or planet for identification purposes, particularly in a country as well known as the United States. This entire exercise appears nonsensical in the kindest possible interpretation, and these changes have been reverted to the status quo ante. In the absence of genuine consensus for this absurdity, I suggest that maps of continent and / or planet be omitted and that any further time not be wasted discussing this matter or trying to add them without the necessary consensus. Alansohn (talk) 04:27, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Do you travel much outside the United States? I travel all over the world frequently, and I think you're quite far from the reality of international geographical perception. What makes Edison or Lakewood more worthy of global context than Woodbridge or Brick is simply that the former two have highly prominent ethnic and/or religious communities that are internationally famous, while the latter two communities do not. It's that straightforward. Castncoot (talk) 04:37, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

May 8: WikiWednesday Salon with new Executive Director

May 8: WikiWednesday @ Prime Produce

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The 50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal

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		For your work in getting 50 articles through the DYK process. --evrik (talk) 16:36, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

evrik, thanks for the appreciation. So much of my DYK work was done so long ago and I hope that this recognition serves as a reminder to myself to get back to work on the process of creating new DYK-worthy articles. Thanks again! Alansohn (talk) 16:59, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

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Removal Of My Edits In Saddle River

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While I am tying to make this page more accurate, detailed and informative for people but you 1. Pushed the Saddle River Borough Hall picture below Wandell? Why? It belongs on top because that's the most important building in the town? 2. You also removed the mention of prestigous ASCE award that the town just received unsolicited? Are you against me making this page better? 3. I also included the valuable tax rate information and you questiomed that too. 4. I agree about Saddle River Inn Restaurant being a comemrcial restaurant, howwver the fact is its the Top 100 Restaurants in USA but I coudl see that its commert=cial ebterprise. But note I have no vested interest in putting that. Its just a fact. Rsachde2 (talk) 13:00, 18 May 2024 (UTC)

• Rsachde2, take a look at the article's edit history to see who removed or changed your edits. Your most recent edits were removed by another editor as copyright violations. You cannot simply copy and paste content from a website. Please review the policy to better understand how content must be added in your own words. Alansohn (talk) 03:10, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

A Modest Proposal

Greetings! I've seen your name pop up on a few of the NJ pages that I peruse and I'm wondering if you could provide some assistance. I did a major overhaul of the Toms River page awhile back in an effort to get it to GA status. I submitted it for GA review but missed out by this much (| |) and it eventually got away from me. Would you give it a look and let me know of any changes that should be made? I'm open to whatever updates are needed, I just need a fresh set of eyes, preferably from someone that knows the area. Lindsey40186 (talk) 00:54, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

• Lindsey40186, I will do my best to take a look at the article and see what can be done to reach GA. Alansohn (talk) 02:56, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

  Yeah, I've been chipping away at them when and where I can. Lindsey40186 (talk) 12:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

• Lindsey40186, the issues raised at Talk:Toms River/GA1 are from a few years ago, but all appear resolvable with modest effort. Have you been working on these fixes?

June 2: Hacking Sunday (+preview of June 8 Wiknic)

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Continued apology for unsourced edit

Thanks for reverting the edit on the article about May's Landing, New Jersey. I was not thinking straight about the A-B-C-D or A-B pattern at all. (May's Landing being a part of this county of the region of the state in the country which is involved with the statistical area with other cities). I always keep messing up and unintentionally forget to add sources for references. Just for you to know, I am mentally ill and have a hard time trying to keep up. Thanks. Darrion "Beans" Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 19:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

• DBrown_SPS, no need for an apology. Let me know what I can do to help. Alansohn (talk) 20:48, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

  I'll let you know whenever I have something coming up. Thanks. Darrion "Beans" Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 02:29, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  DBrown_SPS, let me know. Alansohn (talk) 02:31, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  Well, my mental health is my problem right now. I have serious problems which also folded my sleep. Also, every time I try to find sources to confirm my edits, it is not reliable or it's deprecated without me noticing. Even more, I am more behind on my sandbox and I am struggling with my schedule at this moment. Darrion "Beans" Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 23:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for the response. Darrion "Beans" Brown 🙂 (my talk page / my sandbox) 23:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Sat June 8: Governors Island Wiknic

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Unique Ocean County Nomenclature

I thought that it would be highly notable to note that Ocean County, New Jersey is the only U.S. county named Ocean specifically because this is so incredibly surprising, given the geographical ubiquity of the word “ocean”; one might surely expect that if an Ocean County, New Jersey exists, then there most definitely must be an Ocean County elsewhere in the U.S., perhaps in Florida or California or Hawaii, or even in Rhode Island (the “Ocean State”). On the other hand, one might simply yawn to read that there is only one Bergen or Passaic County in the United States, because those are not common terms to begin with. Do you not agree? I know that uniformity on Wikipedia is usually beneficial, but when something stands out of the ordinary, I believe that the benefit of highlighting this outweighs the uniformity argument. Best, Castncoot (talk) 00:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

• Castncoot, Your edits to the article makes the claim that Ocean County, New Jersey, is the only county named "Ocean County". The source you used provides census data for Ocean County and has a note in the reference that says "Note: the only U.S. county named Ocean which populates", but the source does not say that. Based on my reading of Index of U.S. counties, almost half of New Jersey's 21 counties are unique, including Ocean, as well as Atlantic, Bergen, Burlington, Cape May, Hudson, Hunterdon, Monmouth, Passaic, Salem. The non-unique are Camden (4 nationwide), Cumberland (8), Essex (5), Gloucester (2), Mercer (8), Middlesex (4), Morris (3) Somerset (4), Sussex (3), Union (17) and Warren (14). I'm not sure how anyone can figure out that some county names are unique and the uniqueness is counterintuitive for some but that the uniqueness of others is obvious.
  Looking nationwide, if I read the Index of U.S. counties article correctly, 422 of the 1,936 county names have multiple counties with the same name, but the other 1,514 names are unique. The overwhelming majority (about 78%) are unique nationwide, and it appears that this unique name characteristic is a rather ordinary trait of most counties. The counterintuitive nature of Ocean County being unique isn't sourced and the details may be true, but doesn't appear to be worth mentioning. Alansohn (talk) 01:43, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

Guild of Copy Editors June 2024 Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors June 2024 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the June 2024 newsletter, a quarterly-ish digest of Guild activities since April. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Election news: Wanted: new Guild coordinators! If you value and enjoy the GOCE, why not help out behind the scenes? Nominations for our mid-year coordinator election are now open until 23:59 on 15 June (UTC). Self-nominations are welcome. Voting commences at 00:01 on 16 June and continues until 23:50 on 30 June. Results will be announced at the election page. Blitz: Nine of the fourteen editors who signed up for the April 2024 Copy Editing Blitz copy edited at least one article. Between them, they copy edited 55,853 words comprising twenty articles. Barnstars awarded are available here. Drive: 58 editors signed up for our May 2024 Backlog Elimination Drive and 33 of those completed at least one copy edit. 251 articles and 475,952 words were copy edited. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: Our June 2024 Copy Editing Blitz will begin on 16 June and finish on 22 June. Barnstars awarded will be posted here. Progress report: As of 05:23, 8 June 2024 (UTC) , GOCE copyeditors have completed 161 requests since 1 January and the backlog stands at 2,779 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from Baffle gab1978 and your GOCE coordinators Dhtwiki, Miniapolis and Wracking. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Ridgefield Park, New Jersey - Election Results

new board results up for Ridgefield Park - can't edit it myself because I was elected

Board Of Commissioners Page

Reorg Agenda

news article about me winning

would appreciate you taking a look

74.102.21.39 (talk) 18:16, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

June 26: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

June 26: ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC

Welcome to Wikimedia New York City! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Online-Only WikiWednesday Salon on Zoom. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome! This special online-only WikiWednesday will be dedicated to the Wikimedia Movement Charter referendum, and also to exploring future options of other online-centric events for our Wikimedia NYC chapter. All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. Meeting info: Wednesday, June 26 ONLINE WikiWednesday Salon NYC (optional RSVP on-wiki). 7:00 pm – 8:30 pm Not in-person this month Online via Zoom

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WikiCup 2024 July newsletter

The third round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 June. As with Round 2, this round was competitive: each of the 16 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 256 points.

The following editors all scored more than 400 points in Round 3:

• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,059 points, mostly from 1 featured article on DeLancey W. Gill, 11 good articles, 18 did you know nominations, and dozens of reviews;
• Skyshifter (submissions) with 673 points, mostly from 2 featured articles on Worlds (Porter Robinson album) and I'm God, 5 good articles, and 2 did you know nominations;
• Sammi Brie (submissions) with 557 points, mostly from 1 featured article on KNXV-TV, 5 good articles, and 8 did you know nominations; and
• AryKun (submissions) with 415 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Great cuckoo-dove, with a high number of bonus points from that article.

The full scores for round 3 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 28 featured articles, 38 featured lists, 240 good articles, 92 in the news credits, and at least 285 did you know credits. They have conducted 279 featured article reviews, as well as 492 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 22 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed during Round 4, which starts on 1 July at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.

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• In focus: How the Russian Wikipedia keeps it clean despite having just a couple dozen administrators

• Discussion report: Wikipedians are hung up on the meaning of Madonna

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Energy Capital Partners update

Alansohn, so nice to meet you. Your active participation in Project New Jersey caught my attention. I'd be grateful for your help with additions I suggested to the article of New Jersey-based company Energy Capital Partners. Appreciate your time and input, Californiabri19 (talk) 23:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Californiabri19, the firm is well outside my field of expertise, but I will take a look at the changes you suggest. Alansohn (talk) 11:54, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Fri July 19: Wikicurious in NYC, Editing Wikipedia for Beginners

July 19: Wikicurious: Editing Wikipedia for Beginners @ Civic Hall

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Books & Bytes – Issue 63

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 63, May – June 2024

• One new partner
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• Spotlight: References check

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Nomination of Parks Junior High School for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Parks Junior High School is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Parks Junior High School (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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DYK for Ken Goldin

On 14 August 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ken Goldin, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Ken Goldin has sold more than US$1.3 billion in collectibles? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ken Goldin. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ken Goldin), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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New message from Lost in Quebec

Hello, Alansohn. You have new messages at Lost in Quebec's talk page.
Message added 10:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I'm having a discussion with an editor you had the same issue with just recently. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:02, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Lost in Quebec, I hope that a consolidated summary of the situation helps address the issue and makes it clearer that this is not just a disagreement between one pair of editors. Thanks for reaching out to me. Alansohn (talk) 12:01, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
  • Thank you for helping out at my talk page.
  • On a unrelated note, I see you do New Jersey article work. A baseball player, Carl Sawatski. is categorized 'People from Pompton Lakes, New Jersey but his article only mentions he went to HS there. Pompton Lakes notable people section doesn't mention him. I did discover here[1] that he is from Mountainview, New Jersey but Sawatski isn't listed there either. Could you help sort this out? I will take the People from Pompton Lakes, New Jersey category off Sawatski's page. If your work finds he is from there, revert my edit.Lost in Quebec (talk) 12:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
    • Lost in Quebec, the Mountain View, New Jersey described in the article for Carl Sawatski is in Wayne, New Jersey. This has been clarified and corrected in his article. Mountain View, Passaic County, New Jersey, has been created as a redirect and has been added to the disambiguation list. Thanks for pointing out this error. He has been added as a notable resident of Wayne, backed by the reliable and verifiable source added. Alansohn (talk) 14:09, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
      • Thank you for taking care of the Sawatski stuff.
      • I'm afraid we may have to report that editor over at my talk page. He again added[2] a people category to an alumni page and didn't read[3] either your or JohnPack's comments to my page.Lost in Quebec (talk) 14:25, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Sat August 24: Roosevelt Island Wiknic

August 24: Wiknic @ Roosevelt Island

2019 Wiknic group photo, last time we held it on Roosevelt Island You are invited to the picnic anyone can edit on Roosevelt Island, at Southpoint Park. Following up on this month's Wikimania in Poland, this Wiknic will have as guest of honor User:DerHexer, the 2024 Wikimedia Laureate of the Year, marking his triumphant North American tour! Bring a picnic blanket and some potluck, as well as some sunscreen! We'll also provide a little something for everyone, but we encourage you to bring your own favorite dishes to share, especially for those food cultural topics you would like to improve on Wikipedia. We'll also do a portal thing for a bit with West Coast friends at the WikiLA ocean life edit-a-thon. All are welcome, new and experienced! Saturday, August 24, 2024 NYC Wiknic @ Roosevelt Island (RSVP on-wiki) Time: 2:00 - 7:00 pm (come by any time!) Salon-style Discussions: 3:00 pm - 3:30 pm (session A) 5:00 pm - 5:30 pm (session B) Location: Roosevelt Island (Southpoint Park, look for our Wikipedia/Wikimedia NYC banner). All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. See also upcoming events in September and October at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC.

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WikiCup 2024 August newsletter

The fourth round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 29 August. Each of the 8 contestants who advanced to Round 4 scored at least 472 points, and the following contestants scored more than 700 points:

• Generalissima (submissions) with 1,150 points, mostly from 3 featured articles, 2 featured lists, 7 good articles, and 13 did you know nominations;
• Arconning (submissions) with 791 points, mostly from 2 featured lists, 8 good articles, 4 did you know nominations, and plenty of reviews;
• AirshipJungleman29 (submissions) with 718 points, mostly from a high-multiplier featured article on Genghis Khan and 2 good articles; and
• BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 714 points, mostly from 1 featured article on Susanna Hoffs, 2 featured lists, and 3 good articles.

Congratulations to our eight finalists and all who participated. Contestants put in extraordinary amounts of effort during this round, and their scores can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 36 featured articles, 55 featured lists, 15 good articles, 93 in the news credits, and at least 333 did you know credits. They have conducted 357 featured content reviews, as well as 553 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 30 articles to featured topics and good topics.

Any content promoted after 29 August but before the start of Round 5 can be claimed during Round 5, which starts on 1 September at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. If two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether for a good article, featured content, or anything else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Remember to claim your points within 14 days of earning them, and importantly, before the deadline on 31 October.

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• News and notes: WikiCup enters final round, MCDC wraps up activities, 17-year-old hoax article unmasked

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• Recent research: Simulated Wikipedia seen as less credible than ChatGPT and Alexa in experiment

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ITN recognition for Linda Deutsch

On 5 September 2024, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Linda Deutsch, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 19:26, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Sep 25: Wikimedia NYC Annual Election Meeting (plus Latin music event on Sep 21!)

September 25: Annual Election & Members Meeting

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Annual Election & Members Meeting, with in-person at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, as well as an online-based participation option. The Members' Meeting is similar to other WikiWednesday meetups, except that its primary function is to elect a new Board of Directors. We will elect three board seats, half of the elected seats on the board. After being elected, those elected can potentially appoint more seats. We will also focus on the Wikimedia NYC Strategic Plan, our Financial Report, and Annual and Monthly event teams for the coming year. Election info: To run for election or to vote, you must be a dues-paying member of Wikimedia New York City, having renewed in the past 12 months. Voting will be both online, via emailed ballots from the ElectionBuddy service, and in-person. The poll will be open for the 48 hours between 8pm EDT on September 23 and 8pm EDT on September 25. For additional information, please consult the Election FAQ. Meeting info: Wednesday, September 25 Annual Election & Members Meeting (optional RSVP on-wiki). 6:00 pm – 7:00 pm (Open Hour) 7:00 pm – 9:00 pm (Wiki Salon) (Prime Produce, Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan) Also online via Zoom All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. P.S. Also upcoming just before our annual meeting is the Latin music edit-a-thon, Wikicurious: Editing to the Beat (RSVP at Eventbrite), on Saturday September 21!

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Guild of Copy Editors September Newsletter

Guild of Copy Editors September Newsletter Hello and welcome to the September newsletter, a quarterly digest of Guild activities since June. Don't forget you can unsubscribe at any time; see below. Election news: Project coordinators play an important role in our WikiProject. Following the mid-year Election of Coordinators, we welcomed Mox Eden to the coordinator team. Dhtwiki remains as Lead Coordinator, and Miniapolis and Wracking returned as assistant coordinators. If you'd like to help out behind the scenes, please consider taking part in our December election – watchlist our ombox for updates. Information about the role of coordinators can be found here. Blitz: 13 of the 24 editors who signed up for the June 2024 Copy Editing Blitz copy edited at least one article. Between them, they copy edited 169,404 words comprising 41 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: 38 of the 59 editors who signed up for the July 2024 Backlog Elimination Drive copy edited at least one article. Between them, they copy edited 482,133 words comprising 293 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Blitz: 10 of the 15 editors who signed up for the August 2024 Copy Editing Blitz copy edited at least one article. Between them, they copy edited 71,294 words comprising 31 articles. Barnstars awarded are here. Drive: Sign up here to earn barnstars in our month-long, in-progress September Backlog Elimination Drive. Progress report: As of 05:14, 11 September 2024 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors have processed 233 requests since 1 January, and the backlog of tagged articles stands at 2,824 articles. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we do without you! Cheers from Baffle gab1978 and your GOCE coordinators Dhtwiki, Miniapolis, Mox Eden and Wracking. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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Books & Bytes – Issue 64

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 64, July – August 2024

• The Hindu Group joins The Wikipedia Library
• Wikimania presentation
• New user script for easily searching The Wikipedia Library

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Sep 21: Wikicurious for Latin Music: Editing to the Beat ♫

Sat Sep 21: Wikicurious - Editing to the Beat ♫ @ Lehman College

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the "Editing to the Beat" event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series at Lehman College. This is the second event of the series, following the inaugural event at Civic Hall in July. Led by a 9-person live band demonstrating Caribbean and Latin musical genres, we'll engage with efforts such as WikiProject Latin Music, and will encourage editing on both English and Spanish Wikipedia. All are welcome, and newcomers and aspiring editors are especially encouraged to attend. Registration via Eventbrite is required for building entry, and is also encouraged on the event page on Meta. The Wikicurious series is supported by Craig Newmark Philanthropies. Wikimedia NYC is an official affiliate and supported by the Wikimedia Foundation. Also supporting this event are Equis, The Celia Cruz Foundation, and the International Museum of Salsa. In association with WikiCari and AfroCrowd. All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. Meeting info: Date: Saturday, September 21, 2024 Time: 1:00–7:00 p.m. Location: Lehman College (CUNY) 250 Bedford Park Blvd W, Bronx, NY Equipment: Please bring your own computer. We are not yet able to provide loaner laptops. Eventbrite RSVP: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikicurious-editing-to-the-beat-tickets-1009115641047 RSVP is necessary for building entry.

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• In the media: Courts order Wikipedia to give up names of editors, legal strain anticipated from "online safety laws"

• Community view: Indian courts order Wikipedia to take down name of crime victim, editors strive towards consensus

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Energy Capital Partners - new request

Hi, Alansohn. Hope you are well. Back in July you helped me with some changes on the Energy Capital Partners article. I posted a new request recently and would be grateful for your review. I appreciate your time; if you give me the go-ahead, I can implement these additions myself. Thanks again for all your help. Californiabri19 (talk) 23:32, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Oct 26: Wikidata Day NYC

October 26: Wikidata Day in New York City

2024 Wikidata Day NYC flyer You are invited to Wikidata Day in New York City at Pratt Institute School of Information in Manhattan, in celebration of Wikidata's 12th birthday. This event, held by our chapter in collaboration with Pratt and Girls Who Code, will be our third annual celebration of Wikidata Day. It will feature spotlight sessions, lightning talks, and the customary Wiki-cake, while those unable to attend in person will be able to watch a livestream. All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. Saturday, October 26, 2024 Wikidata Day in New York City (Eventbrite RSVP is required and also optionally on-wiki). 11:00 am – 5:00 pm Pratt Manhattan (rooms 201 and 214), 144 W 14th Street RSVP off-wiki is required for building entry!

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About recent edit in the article Atlantic City, New Jersey

Please explain why you reverted my edit in the article for Atlantic City, New Jersey. On 18 October 2024, I edited the formatting for one citation, so it fits the template for citing websites (Template:Cite web). I also added the author's name from the cited article. Reverting my edit made it worse, at least since you removed the author's name. 66.215.184.32 (talk) 12:30, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

• Per WP:CITEVAR, "Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style, merely on the grounds of personal preference or to make it match other articles, without first seeking consensus for the change." The citation format was restored and the name of the author was added. Alansohn (talk) 14:05, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you for the explanation. 66.215.184.32 (talk) 14:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Michael Weiner (executive)

This article is in a bunch of NJ sportspeople categories. He isn't an athlete, but a activist (Labor leaders are considered activists) and lawyer. Yes he is categorized this Category:Major League Baseball Players Association executive directors but dig down into the categories underneath is nothing comes up Sportspeople. So I am going to remove/recategorize the NJ sportspeople categories.Lost in Quebec (talk) 20:48, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

WikiCup 2024 November newsletter

The 2024 WikiCup has come to an end, with the final round being a very tight race. Our new champion is AirshipJungleman29 (submissions), who scored 2,283 points mainly through 3 high-multiplier FAs and 3 GAs on military history topics. By a 1% margin, Airship beat out last year's champion, BeanieFan11 (submissions), who scored second with 2,264 points, mainly from an impressive 58 GAs about athletes. In third place, Generalissima (submissions) scored 1,528 points, primarily from two FAs on U.S. Librarians of Congress and 20 GAs about various historical topics. Our other finalists are: Sammi Brie (submissions) with 879 points, Hey man im josh (submissions) with 533 points, BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 432 points, Arconning (submissions) with 244 points, and AryKun (submissions) with 15 points. Congratulations to our finalists and all who participated!

The final round was very productive, and contestants had 7 FAs, 9 FLs, 94 GAs, 73 FAC reviews, and 79 GAN reviews and peer reviews. Altogether, Wikipedia has benefited greatly from the activities of WikiCup competitors all through the contest. Well done everyone!

All those who reached the final will receive awards and the following special awards will be made, based on high performance in particular areas of content creation. So that the finalists do not have an undue advantage, these prizes are awarded to the competitor who scored the highest in any particular field in a single round, or in the event of a tie, to the overall leader in this field.

• Generalissima (submissions) wins the featured article prize for 3 FAs in round 4, and 7 FAs overall.
• Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured list prize for 23 FLs overall.
• MaranoFan (submissions) wins the featured topic prize for 9 articles in featured topics in round 1.
• Hey man im josh (submissions) wins the featured content reviewer prize for 110 FA/FL reviews overall.
• BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the good article prize for 58 GAs in round 5, and 70 GAs overall.
• Fritzmann (submissions) wins the good topic prize for 6 articles in good topics in round 2.
• Sammi Brie (submissions) wins the good article reviewer prize for 45 GA reviews in round 2, and 78 GA reviews overall.
• BeanieFan11 (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 131 Did you know articles overall.
• Muboshgu (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 15 In the news articles in round 1, and 36 overall.

Next year's competition will begin on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors, and we hope to see you all in the 2025 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement!

If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

New location for discussion about "History of the Jews in ___" articles

• NOTE: The original discussion at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Contested technical requests has been moved to Talk:Jews in Madagascar#Requested move 1 November 2024 where the previous discussion continues. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 17:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
  • IZAK, thanks for the update. Alansohn (talk) 21:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 November 2024

• From the editors: Editing Wikipedia should not be a crime

• News and notes: Wikimedia Foundation shares ANI lawsuit updates; first admin elections appoint eleven sysops; first admin recalls opened; temporary accounts coming soon?

• In the media: An old scrimmage, politics and purported libel

• Special report: Wikipedia editors face litigation, censorship

• Gallery: Why you should take more photos and upload them

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November 22 + 26: Free Culture Friday and Wikicurious photo event!

November 22: Free Culture Friday
You are invited to Foundation and Friends' Free Culture Friday at Prime Produce on Friday, November 22. This event will feature a reception with Wikimedia Foundation staff in the afternoon, followed by a more informal salon and game night, utilizing Prime Produce's vast collection of board games. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome! Friday, November 22, 2024 1:30 pm – 7:00 pm Prime Produce, 424 W 54th St
November 26: Wikicurious: Capturing the Moment
Jefferson Market Library You are also invited to Wikicurious: Capturing the Moment, the third event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series, at Jefferson Market Library on Tuesday, November 26, in collaboration with WikiPortraits and AfroCROWD. All are welcome to attend, especially those interested in photography or contributing to Wikimedia Commons. We will explore the art of capturing the moment through photography and learn the basics of Wikimedia Commons, and (weather-permitting) we are also planning a photo walk, so bring your camera (or use your smartphone)! Tuesday, November 26, 2024 3:00 pm – 8:00 pm Jefferson Market Library, 425 6th Ave RSVP on Eventbrite is required for event entry!
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Books & Bytes – Issue 65

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 65, September – October 2024

• Hindu Tamil Thisai joins The Wikipedia Library
• Frankfurt Book Fair 2024 report
• Tech tip: Mass downloads

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