User talk:2021DutchSailor

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Some unasked for advice, worth every cent you paid for it. Creating a WP-article that "sticks" can be very hard, especially without any prior experience in, just, editing WP. Still, it can be done, if.

Now, I have not tried to check your sources to see if the topic meets the demands at WP:BASIC, but presumably you have. If WP:BASIC can't be met, you have wasted your time. If the draft is accepted, anything that doesn't fit the Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons policy will be removed sooner or later, for example names of wife and children, unless there are good (per WP:RS) references that mention them.

Assuming your references are good enough, your next hurdle is inline citations. You have to get the refs into the body of the text at the right places. WP:TUTORIAL and Help:Referencing for beginners can be of help. Happy editing! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:51, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:Conflict of interest, a WP-guideline, strongly discourages "contributing to Wikipedia about yourself, family, friends, clients, employers, or your financial and other relationships." Do you fall in that category? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:36, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies for late reply. I'm feeling my way around the WP user infrastructure. In answer to your query: I'm totally unrelated to naval architect Peter van Oossanen, the topic of my article submission to WP. I don't work for him. I know him through work (I'm a yachting media journalist) and have reported on his achievements. "~~~~" 2021DutchSailor (talk) 09:40, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Good enough and no apologies necessary. Your draft is now at Draft:Peter van Oossanen, if that was unclear. WP:SELFCITE could be worth a look. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:06, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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AfC notification: Draft:Peter van Oossanen has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Peter van Oossanen. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 10:33, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter van Oossanen (July 11)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Qwerfjkl was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Draft:Peter van Oossanen#Van Oossanen Naval Architects especially reads like an advertisement: This ensures a high standard of onboard comfort and stability. Also, I'm not sure the © symbols are needed.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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. ―Qwerfjkl talk 16:55, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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AfC notification: Draft:Peter van Oossanen has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Peter van Oossanen. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 16:29, 22 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter van Oossanen (December 13)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Missvain was:

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

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If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Peter van Oossanen, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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Missvain (talk) 23:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Missvain,

Thank you for taking time to read my draft Wikipedia entry on Dutch naval architect Piet van Oossanen. I have reworked the draft since your comment dated Dec. 13, 2021. I kindly ask if you can revisit the item and consider the rewrite. 2021DutchSailor (talk) 15:36, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Peter van Oossanen (February 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This has already been declined on the basis of poor referencing, and since the last decline all of ONE new source has been added. There are entire sections and paragraphs without a single citation — where is that information coming from? We must see a reference for EVERY MATERIAL STATEMENT, so that facts can be verified, and so that we can check there is no original research included, or worse, copyright violations.

And speaking of copyright violations, the Copyvio Detector reports significant (50%+) similarity with the company's website which claims copyright. Please ensure that no copyright content is included, or else produce evidence of a suitable licence to cover the use of such contents.

Thank you, --

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Peter van Oossanen and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Peter van Oossanen, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
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DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:35, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Peter van Oossanen

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 11:44, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]