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Zorn's lemma

Please don't add your signature "~~~~" to articles. Only sign your additions to talk pages. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 07:17, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your addition of commentary to the page in Zorn's lemma

First, claims that a statement in the page is incorrect should go to the talk page for discussion, not to the page itself. Second, you are incorrect in your understanding of the paragraph in question. You wrote:

This Section contains a fallacy. If P is empty then no chain can have an upper bound in P (just because P is empty). In particular, the statement "However, the empty set is a chain (trivially), hence is required to have an upper bound, thus exhibiting at least one element of P." is a fallacious inference. Thus the premise of Zorn's Lemma is not satisfied, contrary to what this Section implies, and the conclusion that P has a maximal element does not follow.

What the section is saying is that if P satisfies the hypothesis of Zorn's Lemma, then it cannot be empty (since the empty chain must have an upper bound in P, and so P must have an element). This is logically equivalent to saying that the empty set does not satisfy the hypothesis of Zorn's Lemma, which is what you are saying. So you are incorrect in claiming that the Section implies that the empty set satisfies Zorn's Lemma. The section makes no such claim, it is making the claim whose contrapositive you are arguing for. In short, you are arguing for what the page says. Magidin (talk) 17:04, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are incorrect. I addressed some of your invalid points above and in the talk about the entry on Zorn's Lemma in that talk page.172.88.206.28 (talk) 01:22, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You addressed some point that you believe to be invalid. As it happens and as a matter of verifiable fact, they were not invalid and your complaints were based on a misreading of the text in question. Magidin (talk) 03:50, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong, again. Please, see the "talk" page.172.88.206.28 (talk) 22:26, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not modify prior comments that other people have already replied to. It makes it difficult to follow the discussion. Magidin (talk) 21:00, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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