Template talk:Infobox comics creator

Template-protected edit request on 31 December 2021

Please make the following changes:

1. |label9 = <span style="white-space:nowrap;">Partner(s)</span> |data9 = {{#if:{{{manga|}}}{{{mangaka|}}}{{{manga artist|}}}||{{{partner|}}}}}
   to
   |label9 = <span style="white-space:nowrap;">Partner(s)</span> |data9 = {{{partner|}}},
2. |label10 = <span style="white-space:nowrap;">Spouse(s)</span> |data10 = {{#if:{{{manga|}}}{{{mangaka|}}}{{{manga artist|}}}||{{{spouse|}}}}}
   to
   |label10 = <span style="white-space:nowrap;">Spouse(s)</span> |data10 = {{{spouse|}}}
3. |label11 = Children |data11 = {{#if:{{{manga|}}}{{{mangaka|}}}{{{manga artist|}}}||{{{children|}}}}}
   to
   |label11 = Children |data11 = {{{children|}}}
4. |label12 = Relatives |data12 = {{#if:{{{manga|}}}{{{mangaka|}}}{{{manga artist|}}}||{{{relatives|}}}}}
   to
   |label12 = Relatives |data12 = {{{relatives|}}}

For reasoning, I fail to see why if a person is a manga artist, they shouldn't be able to list relatives in their infoboxes. Manga artists are people as much as other comic artists and often have need for these parameters. I did some simple test cases in the sandbox, and it appears to work for the cases I tested. Link20XX (talk) 04:51, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

To editor Link20XX: searched the talk page and archives and could find no previous specific consensus that disallowed the various relatives of manga artists. So any existing consensus is implied and, since consensus can change, let's give it a go and say  done. P.I. Ellsworth - ed. ^put'r there 07:07, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Proposal to simplify the coding re images when template is used outside of article space

I propose that the line that starts |image = {{#if:Template talk| which substitutes File:Wikipe-tan_head.png for any other image when the template is used outside of article space be removed. I don't know why the template was coded this way but the message Wikipe-tan says: "You can't use fair-use images outside of articlespace!" is confusing when free images are used legitimately, for example, on pages in draft space. Removing this if statement removes the confusion and there are bots like JJMC89 bot that can deal with breaches of WP:NFCC#9 (use of non-free images outside article space). The coding of this template is older than JJMC89 bot and if the original concern was regarding non-free images being used on user pages etc then the bot is a better way of dealing with the issue. If this proposal is not agreed with then I suggest changing the message to Images will not be displayed when this template is used outside of articlespace to remove confusion. Nthep (talk) 18:08, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@Nthep: the template is not going to be able to read and understand the license, so the only practical option if that is desired would be to have another parameter wherein editors would declare if the image is free or not; otherwise the message could certainly be changed to advise that images won't display outside of articles. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:15, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

@Xaosflux If the template can't handle it then I suggest the clause is removed and JJMC89 bot can police usage. Nthep (talk) 19:21, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

@Nthep: I don't think that's a great idea, but I don't really care too much. I expect the majority of these images are only fair use, correct? I suggest requesting some input from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics. In the meantime, feel free to make your proposed changes here: Template:Infobox comics creator/sandbox. — xaosflux ^Talk 19:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't think there would be any more non-free images than any other biographical infobox, and I'm not aware of any others with such a constraint. Nthep (talk) 10:29, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

I support this proposal. Considering that unless a person has died, non-free images are not allowed, images will almost always be freely licensed. For the rare cases where this isn't the case, the bots are more than capable of handling it. Link20XX (talk) 23:00, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

MOSCAPS in areas

Hi everyone, per WP:MOSCAPS we shouldn't use unnecessary capital letters. Is it possible to not use capital letters in the areas field after the first word? See Rob Liefeld's infobox:

Writer, Penciller, Inker, Editor, Publisher

Only the first word should be written with a capital letter. Is this possible? soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 20:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)