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A fact from Zhang Zhenglang appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 July 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that despite specializing in literature and serving as a senior editor of the Zhonghua Book Company, historian Zhang Zhenglang never published a single book of his own?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 20:38, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that despite specializing in literature and serving as a senior editor of the Zhonghua Book Company, historian Zhang Zhenglang never published a single book of his own?

Source: Lu, Zongli (2007). "A Short Biography of Professor Zhang Zhenglang". Chinese Literature: Essays, Articles, Reviews (CLEAR). 29. https://www.jstor.org/stable/25478409

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Chenqiao Mutiny

Created by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 54 past nominations.

Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good to go! But, out of curiosity, where was "My Ten Years at the Institute of History and Philology" published in 1998? In a journal, or somewhere else? Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:42, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@A Thousand Doors: in 新學術之路: 中央研究院歷史語言研究所七十周年紀念文集, Volume 1 (1998) [A New Academic Road: Collected Works Commemorating the 70th Anniversary of the Institute of History and Philology, Academia Sinica, Volume 1]. But the version I use was from the Peking University website - I'm kind of unsure how to cite it in this case. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

Passed. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 05:55, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominator: Generalissima (talk · contribs) 03:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Thebiguglyalien (talk · contribs) 04:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping to see some China articles in the DCWC! Give me a few days and I'll look this article over. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 04:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Generalissima, great article overall. Very little to change before it meets all of the criteria. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 00:07, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thebiguglyalien I think I got all your suggestions implemented! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General comments:

My only note on the prose overall is that it's a little comma-heavy. Besides that, it's excellent in terms of readability and easily passes GA's requirements.
Since "biography" is the only level-2 heading in the body, it might be better to remove it and bump the subheadings up to level-2.
No issues with neutrality, stability, or images. More coverage would be nice, but it covers the main aspects, especially given the limited sources available.

Lead:

The lead seems long compared to the length of the article. I'd suggest trimming it down to only hit the main points so it can work better as a quick overview.
I edited the lead to change the tense in one sentence.

Education:

No notes.

Academic career:

This section is a little long. Is there a clean dividing point for another heading? If it becomes its own level-2 heading, it would be a good size for two or three subheadings depending possible dividing points.
I changed Following the conclusion of the war to "After the war", because "following the conclusion of" is redundant.
toeing the Communist Party line sounds like an idiom.
led to Zhang's assignment to a May Seventh Cadre School in rural Henan, where he worked as a pig farmer – Could a sentence of context be provided explaining why the academic was suddenly a pig farmer?

Later life and death:

Although he never published a book... – This sentence is probably the worst offender with the comma issue. I suggest rewriting it so it flows more smoothly, maybe as two sentences.

References:

Checked five uses of Lu at [1]p.201, [3]p.204 (both), [7]p.208, and [8]pp.207–208. I don't see that p.204 supports the details about his survey of the library or that he didn't lose any books. I assume this is covered with the other citation in Zhang's own account? Does pp.207–208 say that Jian was actively protecting Zhang, or just that he was angry after the fact when Zhang was fired?
- Re 204: Oops, needed a Shaguhnessy cite there. -G
- Re 207-208: Fair point, I guess it might be a bit of inference to say he was doing so beforehand. Rephrased. -G
Checked Shaughnessy at [10]p.xiv. Good.
Note that while placing all of the citations at the end of the paragraph is sufficient, it can make verification much more difficult if not all of the sources support all of the facts.

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