Talk:Yatonmilk

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Did you know... that despite ample epigraphic evidence mentioning his name, nothing is known about Phoenician king Yatonmilk's reign?

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Yatonmilk patronyme de Bodachtart

Hi @Elie plus:, per I am not sure that Yatonmilk is a different person to Bodashtart:[1]

"Le nombre des inscriptions de Bodachtart mises au jour et repertories est a ce jour d'au moins dix-neuf (KAI 15 + 16) dont neuf (KAI 16) mentionnent Yatonmilk patronyme de Bodachtart Il faut y ajouter RES 767 K in situ et les trois mentionnes par G. Contenau, soit quatre, a moins que RES 767 K ne soit la premiere mentionnee par G. Contenau, ce qui reduirait le supple- ment a trois. De plus on ne sait si l'estampa- ge de RES 289 C correspond a un exemplaire connu par ailleurs ou s'il est le seul temoignage d'un exemplaire aujourd'hui disparu. A ma connaissance le nombre d'inscriptions de Bodachtart doit donc varier entre vingt-deux et vingt-quatre exemplaires dont douze ou treize75 mentionnent Yatonmilk patronyme de Bodachtart."

Onceinawhile (talk) 17:42, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Onceinawhile:, I believe this is an old source, the inscriptions mentioning Bodashtart are close to 30. Yatonmilk is mentioned as bn sdq, true (rightful) son. Page 500 of the source you cited theorizes whether Yatonmilk is the heir or father of Bodashtart. Multiple other scholars identify Yatonmilk as the true heir (bn sdq) to Bodashtart. Furthermore, based on the inscriptions mentioning Yatonmilk, he was never identified as mlk sdnm (king of Sidonians), this supports the theory that, during the period the inscriptions were made, Yatonmilk had not regined yet. This advances the theory that he was the heir to Bodashtart. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 06:11, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elie plus, OK. Since I wrote to you I have see a number of other sources describing Yatonmilk as the son or heir. It seems that all the Yatonmilk inscriptions are exact copies of each other, so there is really only one source.

Regarding your reference to 30 inscriptions, please could you add any others you are aware of to Bodashtart inscriptions?

Onceinawhile (talk) 07:36, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I will have to look for them, not the best time now :D . Was also thinking of starting a WikiProject Phoenicia @Onceinawhile: What do you think? Know any other enthusiasts? ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 10:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Elie plus: I think if the scope covers the whole of the Phoenician-Punic cultural area there should be enough interest. Pinging @Furius, Zurkhardo, PericlesofAthens, Carlstak, and Doug Weller: for their thoughts on creating a WikiProject Phoenicia or similar. Onceinawhile (talk) 11:30, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't have time to get involved, too busy in other areas of Wikipedia, sorry. Doug Weller talk 13:17, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a good idea, wish I had the time, but I'm researching material for expanding other articles. Carlstak (talk) 15:15, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I love that idea. I am busy until next Wednesday but I will have time afterward. Count me in!@Onceinawhile: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zurkhardo (talk • contribs) 15:50, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's on everyone, sneak a peek @Carlstak, Zurkhardo, and Doug WeIIer:; @Onceinawhile: thanks for your fast intervention :D ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 14:55, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 02:30, 2 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that despite ample epigraphic evidence mentioning his name nothing is known about Phoenician king Yatonmilk's reign? Source: Kelly, Thomas (1987). "Herodotus and the Chronology of the Kings of Sidon". Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research (268): 39–56. doi:10.2307/1356993. ISSN 0003-097X. p.52
Elayi, Josette (2018-05-15). The History of Phoenicia. ISD LLC. p. 234. ISBN 978-1-937040-82-6.p.234
- ALT1:~~... that despite being mentioned in multiple inscriptions nothing is known about Phoenician king Yatonmilk's reign due to the lack of further material or epigraphic evidence?~~ Source: Kelly, Thomas (1987). "Herodotus and the Chronology of the Kings of Sidon". Bulletin of the American Schools of Oriental Research (268): 39–56. doi:10.2307/1356993. ISSN 0003-097X. p.52
  Elayi, Josette (2018-05-15). The History of Phoenicia. ISD LLC. p. 234. ISBN 978-1-937040-82-6.p.234

Moved to mainspace by Elias Ziade (talk). Self-nominated at 11:49, 16 November 2020 (UTC).[reply]

QPQ done: ~~Template:Did you know nominations/Rudolf Gerlach-Rusnak~~ Template:Did you know nominations/Fukuppy

Fascinating "we know nothing" on good sources, French sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Cute hook! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:49, 18 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The QPQ has already been used for Template:Did you know nominations/Bodashtart. Yoninah (talk) 12:03, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Sorry about that, I have reviewed another article. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 07:44, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Next time, please link to the review (not the reviewed article), to make the link to the review show when you want to see where it was used. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 30 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]