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Sources for future article expansion

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This site

was being used to source the Ming date for the fortifications. First, it needs pinyin and a translation of its name as well. Second, it's unnecessary for the Ming date now that we have the CIIC page but it may have other information to add to the article.

The admins are apparently still pissy about how they spammed links to their site earlier so its URLs are on the blacklist but

  • Wu, Annie (30 Oct 2017), "The Great Wall at Yanmen Pass, Shanxi Province", Official site, Guilin: China Highlights.

has much more detail and historical background that can be added to the article down the line. Just Google for the page and don't link to their site, apparently.

This isn't a RS but could be used as a kind of checklist for major events associated with the pass or its commandery in Chinese culture. There's also more about the Han campaigns on the linked general's pages, although those seem to be mostly 'sourced' to unexplained and untranslated Chinese extracts from Sima Qian. Ditto Lan Yu under the Ming. Add'l films apparently include the 1940 Yanmen Pass (《雁門關》) and 2011 Bloody Yanmen Pass (《浴血雁門關》). — LlywelynII 11:14, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

is a fantastic overview of the site in 2013 with loads of pictures, but is obviously not a RS that we can use for the article. — LlywelynII 14:51, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Length?

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Sun & al. describes the wall at the site as 5 km long. Not sure if that includes doubled lines, is wrong, or represents that the original 1 km site has been expanded recently. — LlywelynII 14:27, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]