Talk:Watara Supervision

Blurred images?

Why used the blurred ones?TheClerksWell (talk) 01:06, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Artworks had to be blurred for commons because they are a copyright violation.W3ird N3rd (talk) 01:33, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

I think it's unnecessary, you could argue that a photo of the whole console is a copyright violation as the design must be copyright! However I suppose the blurring is pretty appropriate... the screen is so blurry when there's movement it's almost totally unplayable. 91.85.185.211 (talk) 21:08, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

It is unnecessary, even if someone was going to raise copyright concerns over a picture of a cartridge for a defunct uncsuccessful console from 20 years ago, the image would be well within fair use grounds. --24.19.90.104 (talk) 05:46, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Origins

I'm not 100% sure which company is actually responsible for this thing - it's usually credited to Watara but that's just one of many names it appeared under. Before release a few articles mentioned a HK company called "Watary", which is somehow connected to Magnum International Holdings, now known as Dragon Hill Holdings. Given that the Supevision was later released by Magnum I guess this Watary is actually the same entity as Watara. But it doesn't look very much like a games/electronics company, and no game actually credits any of these companies on-screen - is there anything to say Watara is anything more than just another regional distributor? The Taiwanese version was released by a company called Taike - maybe this is the original manufacturer? Anyone know anything more about this? Sengokucannon (talk) 02:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

ok on further investigation, according to this document, as of its publication in 1999, Watary Investments, Magnum Holdings, Fixtron (which registered the Supervision trademark and patents in the US) and Bon Treasure (credited in a number of games) were all subsidiaries of Magnum Corporation Berhad of Malaysia, registered either in HK or various tax havens (Bermuda, British Virgin Islands etc). and all the patents credit Chun Wing Lee of Hong Kong as the inventor. so maybe it's actually of HK origin, not Taiwan? Sengokucannon (talk) 03:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Hong Kong origin is most likely, need to find out who Chung Wing Lee (Lee is last name) is affiliated with (HK company?). Here is some more interesting things I've found: Both names Supervision and Watara is trademarked by Fixtron Limited (British company?)[1]. Watary Onspan Limited was originally known as Onspan Limited (安濱有限公司) (HK incorporated, while Watary Investments Limited is British Virgin Islands incorporated), and the Date of Incorporation is 1989, and the name changing date is 1993 (to Watary).[2] Interestingly, the Watara brand name Filing Date is 9/9/1992, a year before Onspan Limited changed their name to Watary Onspan Limited. (Watara came first?) Watary Investments Limited at one point in time (now?) was a subsidiary company under Wuling Motors Holdings Limited (HK company?), including Dragon Hill[3]. Your PDF link doesn't work, but there is an archived version[4]. There is a rumor/belief that the first model of the Supervision to be released was the gameboy-like version, and the second model to come out was the foldable version. This might seem to be the case. When looking at the patents of the Supervision, the gameboy-like model was filed in 1991, while the foldable version was filed in 1992.[5] (There was a source somewhere that said the Supervision first came out in 1991, not 1992). Of course, there is a third model, under Magnum, VideoJet, (others?), some say there are some exclusive games for it? Still investigating the whole thing... Need Help perhaps... Charmugen (talk) 11:06, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Clone?

DO any one else agree with me that this handeld console is just an colone of Nintento Game Boy?DoctorHver (talk) 04:28, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Appearance wise but not hardware wise? There are exlusive games for the Supervision, and both systems (Gameboy) are not cross-compatible. So Technically, it is its own handheld console Charmugen (talk) 11:06, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

It's a CPU war Z80 (in GB) againts biggest competitor 6502 (in WS)Lothrien (talk) 07:55, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Cancelled "Elite" game?

This informative article from Electronic Games mentions, in addendum to cancelled Rambo and Terminator games for the system, an "Elite" licensed title. "Elite" is bolded and mentioned alongside the likes of the movie franchises, and I'm not sure what it's referring to, so I haven't incorporated it into the article. I was unable to find a media franchise named "Elite" that existed at the time other than the acclaimed space trading game Elite, whose success would be relevant in 1993, but I can't imagine it could be ported to the Supervision as while it has many ports, it wasn't released on any handheld consoles, because I'd think it would be too much for the hardware. Waxworker (talk) 03:30, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Games

This site lists a few more games: B52 Battle (does this exist? the P52 sea battle label would be easy to mistake for this title), Box Carrier, Devil Paradise, Jade Legend, Lucky Jack (Jacky Lucky clone or a name mistake?), Money Bee, Pacific Bomber, USA Sea Battle - https://www.aep-emu.de/Sections-req-viewarticle-artid-110.html, also here https://www.digitpress.com/faq/supervision.htm. These Games are also marked as undumped (beside 4-in-1 Game cartridge) in MAME https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/hash/svision.xml Emulators are also https://github.com/alekmaul/potator Windows (2004) and http://tailchao.com/Wataroo/ Windows (2021) Only thing I found was PlayTime 11/92 (page 68/69) - aep-emu.de has the two pages as copy on the page in german. It's not a good critic. Lothrien (talk) 07:56, 12 September 2021 (UTC)