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RM, Washington Freedom → Washington Freedom Soccer, Not moved, 18 April 2023, Talk:Washington Freedom#Requested move 18 April 2023

On 19 September 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Washington Freedom to Washington Freedom (soccer). The result of the discussion was moved.

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Name Change

Their name is officially changed. Should we change it here?Rhodesisland (talk) 10:51, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pre-2009

The first game, largest win, and largest defeat listed in the infobox all ignore games played in the WUSA and W-Leagues. This is inaccurate and misleading. Does anyone know where to find comprehensive results for pre-2009 games? —D. Monack ^talk 09:29, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I'm in agreement with you on that. There have been other teams in other sports which have switched leagues. First thing that comes to mind for me are the Edmonton Oilers (Gretzky almost didnt play for the NHL!). —ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 02:05, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure I'd even try to put in largest win and largest defeat, because the leagues are so different that the numbers don't mean a whole lot: Which was really the largest win, beating a professional team, 5-0, in 2003, or beating a low-level amateur W-League team, 8-0, in 2007? Kevinwparker (talk) 06:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The answer is: the 8-0 win. The "largest win" stat is about goal differential alone. This is verifiable and objective info that is of encyclopedic interest. On the D.C. United page, their biggest win is listed as against Joe Public, a team from Trinidad and obviously not an MLS league match.

Keep in mind that all of the Freedom's games against W-League teams were when they themselves were a W-League team. Also the W-League is not amateur (i.e., their players are paid). —D. Monack ^talk 06:35, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Um, the W-League is primarily an amateur league, else NCAA players wouldn't be allowed to play for it. There are professional teams in the league, but only a very few. Kevinwparker (talk) 17:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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New team in Major League Cricket with the same name

There is a new cricket team called "Washington Freedom" which will be playing in Major League Cricket from 13th July 2023.

Should we move this page with a bracket called (soccer) and mark it for the new, live team? Karyasuman (talk) 02:14, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That was my first thought, but I changed my mind. Washington Freedom had a successful 10-year run in women's professional soccer. Washington Freedom (cricket) hasn't played a game yet. Let's give it some time, whether this team (and Major League Cricket itself) are a success remains to be seen. 162 etc. (talk) 21:48, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 April 2023

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The result of the move request was: Not moved. Clear consensus to not move and that this article is still the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. (non-admin closure) Skynxnex (talk) 15:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Washington Freedom → Washington Freedom Soccer – this is an inactive soccer team ... WSHEdit (talk) 15:28, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is another Washington Freedom team playing another sport. WSHEdit (talk) 15:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. As I stated above, Washington Freedom (cricket) is a new team in a new league, and it's too early to tell if it will have any kind of long-term notability. The women's soccer team, on the other hand, was in existence for 10 years, and should still be considered the primary topic for now. 162 etc. (talk) 15:34, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose move. Their name did not contain Soccer or SC. O.N.R. ^(talk) 01:40, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the soccer team is a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC right now. In a couple of years, if Major League Cricket gets a lot of coverage and a lot of people viewing this cricket team, then that might be the time to re-nominate it, but right now most people will be looking for the soccer team, as that's where most of the coverage is. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:21, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It's clear that the soccer team is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC now. Even if, at some point down the road, that becomes disputed, any move would not be formatted as currently proposed. Seany91 (talk) 14:50, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. S.A. Julio (talk) 18:13, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per 162 etc. S.A. Julio (talk) 18:13, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as above. Giant Snowman 11:41, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 19 September 2024

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) jlwoodwa (talk) 22:09, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Washington Freedom → Washington Freedom (soccer) – A lot has happened since the last RM. Washington Freedom (cricket) has participated in two tournaments and won the latest one. Looking at Google News, the first ten results are all about the cricket team. Hence, the soccer team is no longer the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. St Anselm (talk) 20:25, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support per nom, no PRIMARYTOPIC; create dab page at base. Giant Snowman 13:27, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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