Talk:Timeline of protests against Donald Trump
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Text and/or other creative content from this version of 2017 Women's March was copied or moved into Timeline of protests during Donald Trump's presidency with this edit on 19:12, 23 January 2017. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
Text and/or other creative content from this version of Protests against Donald Trump was copied or moved into Timeline of protests against Donald Trump with this edit on 16:46, 26 January 2017. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. |
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[edit]I've gone ahead and removed several of the image files. They could possibly be reintegrated later, but as of now they were longer than the article itself and distracting. I've also made the first picture be the same as the Women's March article as that is currently the most notable of the protests in terms of media coverage and size. I also agree with Garagepunk66 that the article could use a better graphical organization of the protests in line with the article's name. TonyBallioni (talk) 19:25, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Merger proposal
[edit]I think it makes sense for this page to be merged and redirected to Protests against Donald Trump at this time. I came across it while doing NPP and thought it was a notable topic, but didn't realize that the protests against Trump page already existed. It is already a timeline, which this page is not despite the title, and has much more information than this one. Any material that exists here that can be included in the other Trump article can be merged, and this redirect to that. TonyBallioni (talk) 00:42, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- So I think the thing is that, the main article is *huge*, and it's a mix of prose and dates, etc. It must be split up (150k bytes is way too much by Wikipedia's guidelines). I think that this article is one possible offshoot from the main article; namely, the goal of this article should be something like a table of events, with no images (the other article can keep the images), and way less prose. "List" of protests would also work. But yeah, also, this timeline is about protests during his presidency, which surely can't be contained in the main article (no space there). Ethanbas (talk) 01:53, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, this article doesn't even need to avoid using prose; it simply covers a different time period than the other article (which should just cover pre presidency).
- Keep and develop What the article is currently is a poor representation of what is needed. Protests against Donald Trump is getting overwhelmed and as a contributor to that, I keep catching the heat. I have long said we need a timeline article and supporting sidebars. I think we need to break this sequence of protests into logical chunks. Some ideas; pre-declaration of candidacy, candidacy, post election and inauguration (and the weekend following it). We don't know what the future protests will be like, but over four more years we can certainly expect some more. This is the name of the article where the sequence of those events can be tracked. The more generalized prose belongs on Protests against Donald Trump and more detailed articles for the particular timeframes and possibly when merited, individual protests, leaders and phenomenon. I've said it before, I'll say it here; We are capturing history as it unfolds before our eyes. Trackinfo (talk) 03:47, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- If we can break the other article's section involving post-election presidency off and move it into here in a timeline format, I could support that. The Protests article looked very timeliney to me, which is why I suggested moving it there, but separating it into prose and timeline section is fine to me. I'm open to discussion on how that would look. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:52, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- I agree with what Trackinfo said. I'm busy with school unfortunately, so I don't have too much time to participate in the discussion of how to siphon off the main protests article. -Ethanbas (talk) 05:55, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep and develop: When I put the template there, I was just doing routine page patrol, but I clearly saw that the article needed development and better organization. So, we should do that. I don't see the need for a merge. Garagepunk66 (talk) 01:38, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
I've just merged the pre-election protests section which was all in very short point and very suitable for this page. However there is very little content left on the other article, and I would appreciate someone writing a summary of 2015 and 2016 years protests. When it comes to the post-election protests I suggest we move most of the information into this article apart from the Nov 9-12th protests which seem to be notable in their own right. The rest could be summarized in that article and listed here. Carl Fredrik 💌 📧 16:50, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- @CFCF: thanks for going ahead with the merge. I've added the attribution templates. I think everything you did makes sense. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:00, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- Merge: There will be many more protests so a timeline of all of them would be ideal. Trump just started his mandate and may well the president for the next 8 years which means there will surely be many more protests. Besides, many of his decisions are controversial and are bound to start protests. I believe merging and keeping a timeline would be the best option with emphasis on the protests that involve more people or resonate more than others. Ralphw (talk) 22:38, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- Keep and develop: Suggesting that this page should be merged with a list page is like saying that the page on World War II should be merged with Timeline of World War II. A page the discusses the issues of a series of events definitively has enough merits to exist on it's own, without being merged with a page that simply lists those events... 69.165.196.103 (talk) 17:46, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- 69-- the merger has already taken place. Most of the content currently in this article was copied from the protests article because it contained substantial timeline content. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:49, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry - read the proposal wrong - though this was on the protests page... 69.165.196.103 (talk) 18:18, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- 69-- the merger has already taken place. Most of the content currently in this article was copied from the protests article because it contained substantial timeline content. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:49, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
Contested deletion
[edit]This article should not be speedy deleted. Come on. We're having a discussion on it. Ethanbas (talk) 09:04, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Contested deletion
[edit]This article should not be speedy deleted as being recently created, having no relevant page history and duplicating an existing English Wikipedia topic, because this article already has a merger discussion. I commented above why it should be kept. Deleting it through any speedy action is inappropriate and serves to WP:SALT its future usage as a necessary sidebar to the Protests against Donald Trump series I described. Trackinfo (talk) 09:07, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Vote to keep Timeline article
[edit]Events on this page have global significance with a wide following. Excess or repetitive content can be summarized or removed overt time while keeping the most important references. There may be merging or forking in the future but there is no rush. Wikipedia has the space...Oceanflynn (talk) 16:19, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
The whole state department quit!
[edit]Okay, I haven't read the article, but it's something like that. How does this get handled?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:48, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- I have found the article in the real newspaper and read it, and it's not a protest. And there weren't that many.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:00, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Protesters climb crane
[edit]"Protesters climb 270-foot crane in downtown Washington, disrupt traffic": is this important enough?
— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:51, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- Woops, I thought this was on the main timeline of Donald Trump. Yes, I think this fits! -Ethanbas (talk) 00:21, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
pro trump rallies
[edit]I think it would be a nice touch to reference any rallies for trump, although it should be noted that people usually dont rally in support of a candidate, except during an election. still, there havent been many, NYC demonstrators rally in support of Trump, World’s Saddest Trump Rally Draws Just 8 Supporters, Jersey Shore 'deplorables' show love for Trump, Several rally for Trump in Elkins, most very small.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:52, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- It's not the purpose of this article, and I'm not sure of there have been that many non-election rallies in favor of Trump to warrant a new article. -Ethanbas (talk) 02:52, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
Day Without Immigrants
[edit]Editors and page watchers are invited to expand and improve the newly-created Day Without Immigrants 2017 article. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:56, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Day Without a Woman
[edit]Page watchers are invited to help expand Draft:Day Without a Woman Day Without a Woman, which may also need to be mentioned in this article. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:00, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Splitting the article
[edit]Thoughts on splitting the article? For example, to pre inauguration and post inauguration. Not that I want to split the article. Ethanbas (talk) 18:51, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Agree -- I was thinking this would be more practical as the list seems to keep growing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BoredBored (talk • contribs) 19:08, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
- I think it's fine the way it is, for now. Ethanbas (talk) 19:27, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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George Floyd, etc.
[edit]These are all to some extent anti-Trump ralliesArglebargle79 (talk) 14:00, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- What reliable sources say that the George Floyd protests are "all" about Trump? You're going to have to provide a lot of sources to back that up, because it just doesn't seem true. — Tartan357 (Talk) 22:24, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
2024 protests
[edit]Is it worth adding protests for the 2024 campaign especially in the event that he wins? For example, this one and these regarding his Milwaukee rally ([1], [2])? 217.180.201.163 (talk) 08:12, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
Heritage Foundation Protests
[edit]I think these protests should be listed on here. https://www.cnn.com/webview/politics/live-news/trump-election-house-11-09-24/index.html?cid=ios_app GamerKlim9716 (talk) 22:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Why Was All of the Timeline Content Deleted?
[edit]Why was all of the content from this page deleted? There's nothing of any significance left here. Stevenmitchell (talk) 00:35, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
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