Talk:The Woman King/Archive 1

Archive 1

Text inserted on behalf of paid editor for Sony/Tristar: dustcastle

Sony/Tristar is the producer, distributor and copyright owner of the film, and so the most reliable source regarding who composed the score for the film. Moreover, after reviewing Lebo M’s interview, nowhere in the interview does Lebo M say that he composed the score. Lebo M only references composing songs for the film, which is different than the score.

Terrance Blanchard composed the score. Lebo M composed several songs.

Please advise on proper steps to have this change made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustcastle (talk • contribs) 19:53, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

@Dustcastle: You need to provide a reliable source/citation verifying your claim. Wikipedia cannot take your word for it. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 21:47, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

I removed the words "composed the musical score" from the second paragraph because the two references support only his having created five songs. Adding that Terrance Blanchard composed the score will require a published, reliable soure reference. David notMD (talk) 22:44, 4 February 2022 (UTC)

SDFNC amended David's change. The sticking point appears to be the wording “the music producer and composer” [my emphasis] in the HeraldLive article. @Dustcastle, you could ask HeraldLive to print a clarification (not a retraction, they may have been acting on the best information they had at the time, as are we). Side question: how about the musical director, was that also Blanchard or a third person? ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 03:09, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi, Dustcastle, can you point us to where Sony has made a statement to that effect? I trust that you are from Sony Legal; how would you feel if some random troublemaker showed up here and got false information published on the basis of claiming to be one of your colleagues?

Here's an idea. Sony could publish full, official personnel lists, key dates (and, for music, track listings) of its products on its web site for reference. Extra credit for making it also available in machine-readable form: Terence Blanchard (Q967230), The Woman King (Q109905743). ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 01:27, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

P.S. I see that someone using an IP address registered to AS19419 Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc in LA removed the Wikidata claim about Lebo M [1] and added one about Terence Blanchard [2]. The way Wikidata handles competing claims is somewhat arcane: both are retained but they are given normal, preferred, or deprecated rank depending on the amount of truthiness. I've fixed that for now, until we can get some more information. ⁓ Pelagic ( messages ) 01:52, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi All -

Sony Pictures Entertainment has finally listed Terence Blanchard as composer on International Movie Database (IMDB)

Does the community agree this is sufficient citation to change the article?

DustcastleDustcastle (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

@Dustcastle: No. IMDb is not reliable. See WP:IMDB. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 18:02, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Finally Wikipedia correctly reflects the music credits on this film. This is so important to the people who truly worked on the film and deserve the credit. Random articles should be reconsidered as viable citations.

DustcastleDustcastle (talk) 17:33, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

References

Requested move 21 August 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. With dab page up for AfD discussion, if one chooses to. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 11:43, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

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• The Woman King (film) → The Woman King
• The Woman King → The Woman King (disambiguation)

– The Woman King (Battlestar Galactica), the article that sat at The Woman King before this article was created, was redirected by Just Another Cringy Username for being "unsourced plot recap", making this the only article with the base name "The Woman King". I'm not entirely sure if the TV episode is not notable (it did receive a few dozen views per day before Davis's involvement was announced, which strikes me as substantial for a TV episode), but even if it is, and while WP:RECENTISM is a legitimate concern, it seems safe to bet the widely promoted major-studio film is going to endure as the primary topic for "The Woman King" unless and until something else named that comes along. Nardog (talk) 20:02, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support A person in Georgia (talk) 21:55, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
• Support per nom. Even unreleased, the film has gotten much more coverage than the BSG episode, and it will get even more when it comes out. Erik (talk | contrib) ^{(ping me)} 23:15, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
• PM note: reformated to request all associated moves explicitly. This time I am assuming logically that the disambiguation page will move to the (disambiguation) name. – robertsky (talk) 10:27, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

  I think the dab page should rather be deleted and a hatnote will suffice; the recent additions by an IP are all WP:PARTIALMATCHes or worse and none of them include the phrase "woman king". But that may be something to be sorted out in an AfD. Nardog (talk) 16:51, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Fine with either the dab being deleted or not. Skynxnex (talk) 21:03, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.