Talk:Strand School

A fact from Strand School appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 26 August 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 1973, Margaret Thatcher temporarily saved the Strand Grammar School, famous for its contribution of young men to the British Civil Service, from closure?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/August.

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Very good article. Pictures are the main bit that would improve. refs are good and so are alumni. Alumni should be reffed too. Nearly a B. Schools project can help Victuallers 19:47, 25 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Was absolutely spot on with regard to the first two paras: 1.1 Origins and 1.2 Relocation to Brixton. These have been substantially altered to remove any potential plagiaristic content and are fully referenced.

Actually the area of South London is known as 'brixton Hill', rather Brixton itself which is a mile closer to London centre.

Terry nyorks (talk) 16:50, 21 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The school's name

It was an unpardonable solecism, certainly in my day (the early sixties), to refer to the school as either "Strand Grammar School" or The Strand School; it was always Strand School, or simply Strand. I seem to recall this was one of the first things drummed into us in first form. Certainly no old boy or former master would make such an error. I have accordingly altered the terminology where appropriate. Wingspeed (talk) 23:51, 8 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Old Boys

??Sir Jack Drummond

I'm a little troubled by the inclusion of Sir Jack Drummond in the list of Old Boys - because his Wikipedia entry states that he attended not Strand but King's College School. It was when King's College School was still in the Strand, so it looks like this is how the error's arisen. The citation is of no immediate help since it's non-online. Can anyone able to throw light on this please do so. Otherwise, if I may suggest, the name is best removed. At present the link contradicts the list. Wingspeed (talk) 02:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No response to above query, after three months. So now, reluctantly, excise Drummond from list. Am keen to be corrected, however, should someone know better. Wingspeed (talk) 15:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia entry for Sir Jack Drummond in fact states he attended Strand School. However, the following obituary states that he was educated at King's College School: [1]

See also The Times (London, England), Wednesday, Aug 6, 1952; pg. 6; Issue 52383. Rwood128 (talk) 14:50, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Churchill's Private Secretary?

I seem to recall that two former Head Boys achieved particularly high office in Whitehall. One (Pitblado, possibly) became something like Private Secretary to Churchill & then maybe Eden. My memory's too fuzzy to be at all exact; but certainly something like that. Anybody else able to assist? Wingspeed (talk) 02:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Boris Karloff

I am fairly certain Boris Karloff attended Strand —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady Pitstop (talk • contribs) 10:26, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Karloff, it seems, was a King's College dropout, possibly the origin of the notion that, in addition to his other achievements, he was an Old Strandian.

His WP entry has the following, causing me at first to suppose that we can rule him out:

'Karloff grew up in Enfield. [. . .] He later attended Enfield Grammar School before moving to Uppingham School and Merchant Taylors' School, and went on to attend King's College London where he studied to go into the consular service. He dropped out in 1909 and worked as a farm labourer and did various odd jobs until he happened into acting.'

Karloff was an undergraduate at King's. Or was he?

Significant phrase in the above is, '...where he studied to go into the consular service.' Sounds, on second & closer reading, suspiciously like civil service classes in the basement rather than the university proper. Might we here be looking at a case of subsequent CV inflation? Quelle horreur! And the would-be consular official drops out to become a farm labourer. What's all that about? The plot — appropriately enough, given it's BK we're talking about — thickens.

DNB throws no further light on the matter. Other than: 'In 1906 he moved to King's College, London, and studied for the consular service.' Again, somewhat strange choice of words, M'lud. Anybody have an authoritative biography of the old ham to hand? Wingspeed (talk) 07:42, 28 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1936 tragedy

Based on other content in Wikipedia and on the Guardian article at https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/06/fatal-hike-became-nazi-propaganda-coup, it would appear the teachers name was Keast rather than Keasting. It also appears that there other points of view regarding Keast's role.110.21.184.239 (talk) 06:57, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A most interesting article. When did it first appear in The Guardian? Rwood128 (talk) 12:26, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I was confused. It seems to have been today, after all. Rwood128 (talk) 14:51, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I might be sensible to merge English Calamity with this article (and d/w the problems with that article at the same time). Any objections, or comments? Rwood128 (talk) 21:11, 14 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Monument erected by Hitler Youth

"In 1938 the Engländerunglück [de] ("Monument to Englishmen") of architect Hermann Alker was erected by the Hitler Youth in commemoration." - Is it really relevant or necessary to state it was erected by Hitler Youth? I've not been able to check the source, but it seems curiously specific to include. Does the fact it was erected by Hitler Youth have any actual bearing on the monument? It merely feels rather out of place in this article to mention that.

I will add in: while I don't speak German so reading the book would be somewhat out of the question, the sourcing seems spurious, as a search for the book on Amazon confirms it does exist, but gives a translation of the title as "Legends in Oberried: and its districts Hofsgrund, St. Wilhelm, Zastler and Weilersbach", with a review suggesting it is about sagas and epic mythology. 5.68.219.54 (talk) 13:05, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The source is theTimes and I will check. I agree that this isn't essential information but it does place the story in it's historical context. Incidentally, I was on the first extended school trip, since this tragedy, which was in the mid-fifties, and on a Thames sailing barge. Rwood128 (talk) 13:23, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I had forgotten the English Calamity article, which looks like it needs to be improved.

I'm not really knowledgeable on this matter but it looks like the English Calamity article would benefit from being improved and providing a more thorough dive into the historic context, and this page may benefit from simply mentioning the monument exists and the architect who erected it to achieve a little more balance (if all does check out that is), the focus on such a short summary should probably be upon the tragedy and the monument, not any propaganda tangentially related to it? Just my thoughts 5.68.219.54 (talk) 20:43, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The monument had a Swastika on it. I don't think it's at all out of place to say who paid for it. DuncanHill (talk) 21:01, 19 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]