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Requested move 20 December 2018

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 18:37, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Sea captainCaptain (nautical) – Move over redirect. "Sea captain" is an uncommonly used title and is not appropriate for natural disambiguation, hence parenthetical disambiguation is used instead. —Madrenergictalk 06:39, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). -- AlexTW 08:33, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That would be incorrect. "Nautical" means "relating to or involving ships or shipping or navigation or seamen", and a nautical captain is the occupation of the master of a ship regardless of rank or military/civilian status, and is not the same as a naval captain, which is simply a rank within a military force known as a navy regardless of duties, and may not be in charge of a ship or have the ability to command a ship, even. A naval captain can be a pilot, doctor, or engineer, amongst others. —Madrenergictalk 16:20, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but by definition a naval captain may well also be the captain of a ship. The rank was named after the post. And someone who is a naval captain (as in, the captain of a naval ship) does not actually have to hold the rank of captain. As I said, incomplete disambiguation. We disambiguate so that readers can easily understand the difference between two articles, and this would be exceptionally unclear. -- Necrothesp (talk) 16:42, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Given the context of the current discussion (choosing between" sea captain" or "captain (nautical)" as an article title), the phrase "sea captain" would also equally apply to the same situation above. The officer commanding a naval ship would also be a sea captain as much as a nautical captain, so I fail to see how choosing "sea captain" would reduce the potential for confusion. "Nautical" essentially suggests the sea, after all. Forgive me if I may appear obtuse. —Madrenergictalk 17:42, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.