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Requested move 20 February 2020

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The result of the move request was: Moved all three (non-admin closure) BegbertBiggs (talk) 12:55, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]



– Per WP:USEENGLISH and MOS:LIFE. The only breed standard in English (and the most important one if there are more standards, since it is the FCI world standard) gives the name as Saint Miguel Cattle Dog, and only gives the present title as the original name in Portuguese, parenthetically. The fact that the English name is kind of "Portuglish" is irrelevant; it's a formal proper name. We should only be capitalizing names of standardized breeds as used in English and as provided in the defining standards (the MOS:LIFE exception arrived at by RfC at WP:VPPOL a bit over a year ago; all other groups of animals are lower case). We should not impose over-capitalization on non-English phrases, per MOS:FOREIGN; the proper rendition of this in Portuguese is cão fila de São Miguel. Anyway, it should have redirects from São Miguel Cattle Dog, Sao Miguel Cattle Dog, St. Miguel Cattle Dog, St Miguel Cattle Dog, lower-case versions of same, and redirs from any other names given in the article (I see several in the infobox, though they may be unsourced).  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  05:25, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Added Cão de Castro LaboreiroCastro Laboreiro Dog, too. Essentially the same case, other than there is one breed registry that prefers the Portguese name (in English); however, it is a one-country registry (and not even the country of breed origin), so FCI trumps it as a reliable source. It will also need various redirects for different spellings/capitalizations, and some alternative names (only one of them is sourced, and only with a primary source, but at least that's something).
  • PS: "Dog" in both of these should be capitalized, as it is a part of the formal breed name in both cases (this is often not true, and many of our dog breed article names end in lower-case "dog" simply as a natural disambiguation).
  • Added Cão da Serra de AiresPortuguese Sheepdog, since both English-language breed standards agree on that name; will also need some redirects added. Pinging Colin Gerhard and Cavalryman, since I added this after their comments below.

 — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  08:58, 21 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support third nom also. Cavalryman (talk) 09:07, 21 February 2020 (UTC).[reply]

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