Talk:Sèvres syndrome

Delete request

Can anybody create a page whatever he want? Is this Facebook or something? A blog? Really... I have 3 words for it and I think it's enough for it: (...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karak1lc1k (talk • contribs) 03:04, 21 March 2015

• Comment it's been around for 10 yrs, seems fine to me. Oaktree b (talk) 22:48, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because this is not patent nonsense. "Patent nonsense" is for articles that literally are unreadable, consisting of strings of letters that are not words or words in random orders. If you have a problem with this page and have a policy-based reason for why it should be removed, articles for deletion is the proper venue. --Howicus (Did I mess up?) 03:36, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. ekips39 (talk) 03:38, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Reason does not matter. According to this article, we can say that whole human race have this syndrom. There is so many subjects in Google about "sevres syndrom" ridiculousness, but Wikipedia is not a place like that we can create page with fake proofs (just kidding, exact location of it actually). In my opinion too, this article has made by a nationalist anti-Turkist ones. It does not matter what his ethnicity is, could be an Armenian, or a separatist Kurdish, or a Greek, I don't know. But there is one thing I know about this s%&#, its illogicality (you can say ridiculousness, illegitimacy, inconsequence, paralogism, opacity etc. to it too) Karak1lc1k (You've succeeded!) 17:21, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

The article has value, teaching us about something we know nothing about. Oaktree b (talk) 22:49, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Speedy keep It has some rather good sources and several more are there in the internet specifically mentioning the Sevres Syndrome.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 05:25, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Whole article should be deleted or severe edits are necessary

It is propaganda, sources cited are also not scientific at all, and invalid. It does not belong to an encyclopedia but maybe a brochure of an anti-turkist political party. The term 'sevres syndrome' itself is not a term that is accepted in literature, but instead merely a term coined by pseudo-intellectuals who are publishing texts with political agendas. I believe it should be deleted, if it is going to stay the article 'Trianon syndrome' should be taken as an example for editing and fixing this mess. Aloisnebegn (talk) 22:28, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

The article is fine, well-sourced and very informative, presents a different point of view we did not know before. Very interesting and thought provoking. Oaktree b (talk) 22:50, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

The Trianon Syndrome seems more of a strange idea, not really having gained much traction in the public eye. Oaktree b (talk) 23:41, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

It is not well sourced at all. I think I have explained the situation good enough. You finding the text interesting does not matter. Aloisnebegn (talk) 23:57, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes it is a point of view. it does not belong to an encyclopedia. It does not teach anything but simply cites false sources. Aloisnebegn (talk) 23:53, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Again, the article is well-sourced, presenting a notable discussion on the topic. Of interest to many readers. We should aim to share knowledge on Turkey and not hide it. Oaktree b (talk) 02:18, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

Something that haunts a nation 100 yrs later is certainly important enough to share with the world and may even help to eradicate some of this shame the nation feels. Talking about the situation helps others understand how the idea has grown and spread since the loss in World War One and the residual feelings of angst amongst the Turkish people, or at least some discussion around this "idea". Oaktree b (talk) 03:14, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

There's zero chance that this article will ever be deleted. Forget about it. Its very well sourced. Reiterating what I said vis. your disruptive edits at the pan-Turkism article; if you make another WP:TENDENTIOUS edit at any sort of article (including talk pages), you will be reported to ANI. - LouisAragon (talk) 14:46, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

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<!-- It describes the impact of the 1920 [[Treaty of Sèvres]] on the formation and subsequent development of the Turkish state. In this treaty, the victorious powers sought the division of the former Ottoman heartland of [[Anatolia]]. The Treaty created an Armenian homeland in the east and added largely Greek-speaking parts of Thrace and the Aegean coast to [[Greece]]. Large swaths of the rest would have been under British, French, Italian or International control, including [[Constantinople]] and the [[Bosporous]]. The independent Turkish state that emerged would have been quite small. The perceived humiliation of this division of land provoked a Turkish uprising under [[Ataturk]] that led to the creation of modern Turkey. According to researcher Levon Hovsepyan, discussions over challenges facing Turkey, the country’s domestic and [[foreign policy]], vision of the state are taking place in Turkey’s different sociopolitical, scientific and analytical circles within the framework of which the fears and phobic perceptions of the Turkish public and political circles are being manifested. In that context the discussions over possible dismemberment of Turkey, violation of integrity and existence of such initiatives by external forces have intensified in different spheres. This phenomenon is referred to as the “Sèvres syndrome”, “Sèvresphobia” or “fear of dismemberment”. Such discussions on the state and social levels of Turkey are the result of complex perception of a number of existing issues which, in turn, give birth to conclusions based on worries and phobias and form psychological stereotypes.<ref>{{cite book|last=Hovsepyan|first=Levon|title=The Fears of Turkey: The Sèvres Syndrome|year=2012|publisher=Information and Public Relation Center|location=Yerevan|isbn=978-999-41-2-631-6|url=http://bs-kavkaz.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Fears_Turkey.pdf}}</ref> http://www.todayszaman.com/columnist-180032-what-keeps-the-s%C3%A8vres-syndrome-alive-andkicking.html --> -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 12:13, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 15 February 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 21:41, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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Sèvres Syndrome → Sèvres syndrome – Sèvres is a proper noun, but syndrome hardly ever capitalized. A Google Books Ngram graph shows with the è and without the è that the term is quite new and capitalization has been inconsistent, but growing lately.  SchreiberBike | ⌨  19:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support per nom. Other syndromes are almost all lowercase. Are there exceptions we should look at to understand why? Movie titles, yes. Dicklyon (talk) 21:33, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

• Support - per nom. Primergrey (talk) 16:16, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
• Support; zero reason for capitalisation of "Syndrome" here - Julietdeltalima (talk) 07:12, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.