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Fork

I forked this back out from Monument Avenue. @Pubdog: Consider this an invitation to revisit your original work and make further improvements to this article, if you're interested. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:07, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

When this article got forked, it appears the citations did not carry over correctly. The whole page could use more sources anyway. The first two paragraphs only lists National Register of Historic Places application in 2007 as a source, however much of this info is not in there, or seems to contradict what is listed on the page. I wonder if 4th source listed should not be used for some of this other info, but is only given as source for 1992 cleanup project. Such things as horse not being Traveller but NR of Historic Places application Sec 8 pg 6, implies it was Traveller. Arrival by rail May 4th, source gives xfer to site on May 5th so possible, but arrival date not given. Lee stands 14 feet tall, possible but can only find total statue of 21 feet (Sec 7 pg 2) in sources. Entire monument 60 feet tall including base. $20,000 amount can not find nor most details listed, source does list some discussions and why current site was picked over some others. Kevin "Hawk" Fisher (talk) 19:36, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Traitor

Should this article include any biographical reference to Robert E. Lee turning traitor against the United States and waging war against it in order to preserve the enslavement of human beings? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.192.242.220 (talk) 17:24, 6 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As Lee has never been charged with treason, referring to him as a 'traitor' would be largely inaccurate; he was faithful to his home (Virginia) which was the reason he resigned from the U.S. Army to which he served with distinction for three decades and ultimately accepted a commission to lead Virginia's army after secession was complete. No reputable historic reference would define Lee as a traitor and neither such a political slur would have a place in Lee's biographical wiki entry, it's certainly not appropriate in this article about a monument to his loyalty.75.75.23.146 (talk) 03:44, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 22 August 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved - consensus against (closed by non-admin page mover) DannyS712 (talk) 15:02, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

– In all cases, the article title is a description of the work - it's a monument that depicts [Person] - and a descriptive name shouldn't be capitalized (see MOS:TITLE#Neither.) Though the descriptive names have become common (even being used in a nomination form for National Historic Landmark status in title-case) it's unlikely that they are the "actual" names of the works (see a contemporary NYT article on the unveiling of the Robert E. Lee monument, wherein "monument" is not capitalized.)

Of course, I could be entirely off base here, but that's why I'm putting it on a talk page. Mcrsftdog (talk) 17:02, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, I prefer the current titles which seem to be more consistent with similar Wikipedia entries. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. These all appear to be the proper names of the structures. If they aren't then they should be moved to "Statue of Foo". See MOS:VATITLE. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
On further thought, oppose. Even if the titles aren't "official", they practically are. Mcrsftdog (talk) 13:10, 26 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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