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Broken Links

There are two broken hotlinks on the webpage http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Rio_Grande_(film). In the PLOT section, the last two hotlinks to the "Fourth Cavalry" and "Colonel Ranald Mackenzie" bring up the following message: "Article not found. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia".

Inaccuracy.

This film is fiction, so I know we shouldn't be too meticulous about accuracy. However, I have to point out one glaring flaw. In one scene, the sergeant-major announces that Jeff Yorke and his nemesis will settle a dispute with a boxing match under Marquess of Queensbury rules. However, during the actual fight, they're apparently using London prize ring rules. For instance, they fight bare-knuckle, and a round ends when one of them the fighters is knocked down.97.73.64.164 (talk) 16:08, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Technically, you're right. However, in 'common' usage, to invoke the phrase "Marquess of Queensbury rules," means that whatever contest is about to take place (and, yes, it usually is a fight), "sportsmanship and fair play" are to be observed.

Ironically, in the 'follow-up' movie The Quiet Man, when John Wayne's & Victor McLaughlin's characters have their big fight, the "Marquess of Queensbury rules" are also invoked. And as in the Rio Grande fight, it is bare knuckles (and not always 'fair'). 2600:8800:786:A300:C23F:D5FF:FEC4:D51D (talk) 11:44, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

York/Yorke

The second paragraph says that John Wayne is playing the same character from Fort Apache. Is that right? I always thought the three films in the Cavalry Trilogy existed in their own timelines. Captain York in Fort Apache never made any mention of a wife or child in the film, and Victor McLaglen, Grant Withers and Jack Pennick all come back in different roles. --Funkychinaman (talk) 21:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Black and White

Shouldn't the article mention that this film is in black and white? In fact, shouldn't articles on all films specify whether or not they were shot in colour and the colour process or otherwise? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.194.210 (talk) 13:38, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

More than ten years ago, but this was a good point. I agree. ReturnDuane (talk) 22:36, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback requested

Hello @Heidi Pusey BYU and any other interested editor--I'm wrapping up work on this page. Can you tell me if there are parts that don't make sense or leave out vital information? Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 22:42, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

PLOT:

Do we need parenthetical asides of who the characters are played by when there's a separate cast section? It feels redundant.
"after he set fire to his wife's plantation": How is it his wife's plantation? Is it an inheritance situation?
"an action with serious political implications, since it violates the sovereignty of another nation." Is this mentioned in the film, or is it from the production section (writing subsection)?
We are told twice that Tyree is running from the law. Just once is enough. Also, there are two mentions of Jefferson meeting Tyree.
Jefferson's name keeps switching from "Jeff" to "Jefferson". What is he typically called in the film?
There is no mention of a Corporal Bell until his wife is captured.
"While the remaining escort..." Were some of them killed?
"Navajo Scout Son of Many Mules": This character is not mentioned until the end when he is decorated; I'm assuming he did something to help the group. If he did, it would be good to mention him earlier.
"Trooper Tyree is given a furlough to continue his run from the law": This doesn't quite make sense. Who gives him the furlough? Is the furlough legally given? Or is it just that his friends distract the marshal and he runs away?

PRODUCTION:

"The weather was extremely hot.": This is a nit-picky thing, but I want to suggest that this sentence be removed since the next sentence has the same information, and even more detailed at that.

THEMES:

"...also noticed that Rio Grande's "reactionary attitude toward Apaches as simplistic savages reflecting [...] arch-conservative views of McGuinness": The grammar in this sentence is not parallel. I don't completely understand what it's trying to say, otherwise I'd fix it myself.

Heidi Pusey BYU (talk) 23:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the feedback, Heidi Pusey BYU. I think I addressed most of your points of confusion, although I didn't mention Corporal Bell any earlier because I don't know how he appears earlier in the film. The initial plot summary was way too long, and I had to cut a lot out of it, which resulted in some of the confusion. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 17:54, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]