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Writing Credits
[edit]Rachel Keen (Raye) is also credited as a writer for Blonde - All Cried Out https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/All_Cried_Out_(Blonde_song)
She is also credited as a writer for Charli XCX - After The AfterParty https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/After_the_Afterparty
She is also credited as a writer for Snakehips featuring MO - Don't Leave https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Don%27t_Leave_(Snakehips_and_MØ_song)
She is also credited as a writer on the Jax Jones record in which she features as vocalist https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/You_Don%27t_Know_Me_(Jax_Jones_song)
She also co-wrote 'Not In Love' by M.O https://hamadamania.com/2016/12/15/m-o-deliver-new-single-not-in-love/
She is signed as a writer to Warner/Chappell Music http://uk.warnerchappell.com/artist-details/1200 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.100.103 (talk) 01:57, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 8 March 2017
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: No consensus – While supporters claim the singer is a clear PT, they fail to provide compelling supporting evidence. Opponents argue that the singer is not so well-known compared to other meanings, and in particular to the existing redirect to an anime character, but that's also a judgment call with little evidence. Hence no consensus can be found either for or against the move. Status quo prevails; no prejudice against a renewed RM to place the newly-created dab page at this title. — JFG talk 05:22, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
– Clear case of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Minimal mention of "Raye" in the Sailor Mars article, for which Raye currently redirects to. Also see pageview stats and Google hits. TheKaphox T 19:26, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose this is not a well known singer. This is a featured/back up singer who appears to have never charted. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:37, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- Would be better to move Raye (disambiguation) over the redirect to Sailor Mars. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:58, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- Would be even better to present an argument based in policy, guidelines or even undocumented conventions. I, for one, fail to see how these remarks, "not a well known singer" and "featured/backup singer who appears to have never charted" are even relevant to this proposal. --В²C ☎ 00:58, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Well they are relevant because this Raye is not a well known singer but a featured/backup singer who appears to have never charted solo. And because we're supposed to be building an encyclopedia here. "Raye is" and "Raye was" tests don't suggest that this person is the more notable than all other uses of "Raye" in mankind's history combined - if anything it is "Raye" meaning Martha Raye which comes up most. Which means that the backing singer is yet not a natural long term encyclopedic absolute topic, like Ella Fitzgerald or Julius Caesar, but just another Raye, with less print than the young lawyer Raye in one of Thomas Hardy's stories. Give the girl a chance to get in the charts. We can always remove (singer) later if she becomes the universal meaning of Raye. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:17, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- But we're not disambiguating the universe. We're only disambiguating article titles on WP. No one is typing "Raye" in the search box expecting an article about Martha Raye, and almost no one is expecting Sailor Mars. When the universe puts forward another Raye who readers are looking for, we can easily move this article back. Station1 (talk) 19:08, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Some of Wikipedia's readers actually live in the universe. When they enter the alternative reality of en.wp they may not be aware that they have to leave the real world behind. The universe, real books, have already provided multiple meanings of Raye, of which none stands out. But then the backing singer stands out even less. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:40, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- What you don't seem to recognize or respect, In ictu oculi, is that WP does not represent the whole universe, but only the WP:NOTABLE subset of it. Therefore when we determine ambiguity and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, we consider only the names of WP:NOTABLE topics - those with articles on WP. --В²C ☎ 00:10, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
- Some of Wikipedia's readers actually live in the universe. When they enter the alternative reality of en.wp they may not be aware that they have to leave the real world behind. The universe, real books, have already provided multiple meanings of Raye, of which none stands out. But then the backing singer stands out even less. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:40, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- But we're not disambiguating the universe. We're only disambiguating article titles on WP. No one is typing "Raye" in the search box expecting an article about Martha Raye, and almost no one is expecting Sailor Mars. When the universe puts forward another Raye who readers are looking for, we can easily move this article back. Station1 (talk) 19:08, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Well they are relevant because this Raye is not a well known singer but a featured/backup singer who appears to have never charted solo. And because we're supposed to be building an encyclopedia here. "Raye is" and "Raye was" tests don't suggest that this person is the more notable than all other uses of "Raye" in mankind's history combined - if anything it is "Raye" meaning Martha Raye which comes up most. Which means that the backing singer is yet not a natural long term encyclopedic absolute topic, like Ella Fitzgerald or Julius Caesar, but just another Raye, with less print than the young lawyer Raye in one of Thomas Hardy's stories. Give the girl a chance to get in the charts. We can always remove (singer) later if she becomes the universal meaning of Raye. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:17, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Would be even better to present an argument based in policy, guidelines or even undocumented conventions. I, for one, fail to see how these remarks, "not a well known singer" and "featured/backup singer who appears to have never charted" are even relevant to this proposal. --В²C ☎ 00:58, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Would be better to move Raye (disambiguation) over the redirect to Sailor Mars. In ictu oculi (talk) 21:58, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support per nom. There is no other article on WP using this title. Station1 (talk) 04:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- We do have a substantial article on Raye (character) from Sailor Moon. It's just titled by her other name. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:48, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- As I said, there is no other article using this title. The other article (which get fewer than half the views of this one anyway) is at Sailor Mars (its best title), so there is no conflict whatsoever between titles. Incidentally, less than 2% of Sailor Mars's views last year came through the Raye redirect, so it's not needed for that purpose. Station1 (talk) 03:31, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- Difficult to see from WP:DAB why no other article using this title is relevant. cf Hurricane. What we need is an argument from WP:RS that in all of mankind's history the overwhelming use of "Raye" is for a 19 year old singer who hasn't charted. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:52, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- It's relevant because our article titling policy says article titles should be concise, natural and no more precise than necessary. Disambiguation, when it's necessary, can be done in several ways, the most extreme of which is creating an artificial article title. Sometimes that is necessary, but when two article titles are not in direct conflict, a less intrusive way of getting readers to the right place is a hatnote. Station1 (talk) 08:12, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Don't cherrypick information, the singer has two extremely successful singles, both alongside notable artists. The singles have charted very well internationally. As well as this, there are also notable songwriting contributions. TheKaphox T 23:55, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- For the record, IIO just created the Raye (character) redirect. --В²C ☎ 00:58, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Difficult to see from WP:DAB why no other article using this title is relevant. cf Hurricane. What we need is an argument from WP:RS that in all of mankind's history the overwhelming use of "Raye" is for a 19 year old singer who hasn't charted. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:52, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- As I said, there is no other article using this title. The other article (which get fewer than half the views of this one anyway) is at Sailor Mars (its best title), so there is no conflict whatsoever between titles. Incidentally, less than 2% of Sailor Mars's views last year came through the Raye redirect, so it's not needed for that purpose. Station1 (talk) 03:31, 10 March 2017 (UTC)
- We do have a substantial article on Raye (character) from Sailor Moon. It's just titled by her other name. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:48, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support per nom as clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. --В²C ☎ 00:58, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose per In ictu oculi. This is a common surname and given name and the singer should not have primacy over the newly created dab page that's actually a name list article with some partial title matches, but that can be sorted out afterwards. —Xezbeth (talk) 06:06, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- You do know that her name is spelt entirely in capitals as it's shown the video names. It's like this, RAYE. So really the page should just be called that. 7:42, 12 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajitunes14 (talk • contribs)
- We don't normally use all caps for article titles, except for acronyms, even if that's how the subject chooses to style themselves. It's just a matter of house style. But a redirect from RAYE can be created if you like. Station1 (talk) 19:08, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Of the two existing uses, the singer is the clear primary topic over one of the dubbed spellings of one of the names of one of the friends of Sailor Moon. As stated above, Sailor Mars barely mentions the name "Raye"; the character appears to be better known as Rei (or, you know, "Sailor Mars").--Cúchullain t/c 16:51, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
- Support. Per nom. Unreal7 (talk) 14:45, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose. The most common search term is presently as Raye (disambiguation). That is the page that should be moved to Raye. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:53, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
Requested move 16 March 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Consensus to move. The proposer presented clear evidence for primary topic here, and opposers presented mostly only JDLI arguments in response. Arguments based on declarations of "Of course not" without any basis whatsoever were dismissed. Also, noting the proposed title is a name isn't an argument opposing a move to that title (names can be primary topics). So that was also dismissed. That left one arguably reasonable opposition implying a mitigating RECENTISM issue here, but there's no support for that, and in the super-unlikely event that the other uses become relatively more significant, sufficient to topple this primary topic, that can be rectified then. But odds are this article will be stable at this title for the foreseeable future, at least. --В²C ☎ 04:31, 25 March 2023 (UTC) В²C ☎ 04:31, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
– Clear case of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per use, the singer gets a significant amount of views compared to any other topic of the name and a staggering 98.66% of outgoing views from the disambiguation page [1]. The only other use of Raye (as a mononymous term) is as an alternative uncommon name for Sailor Mars. 5 years ago, the community was hesitant to allow such a move because of the singer's low popularity but now that the singer is a lot more popular, this move should be obvious. Célestin Denis (talk) 17:44, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support, this probably should have been revisited a long time ago as the views started shooting up very shortly after the previous RM concluded. Certainly not in doubt any more. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:57, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Please don't read only one part of WikiNav near the end that seems the most bombastic. The same page at the top says that there were 1.2k incoming views of Raye, and 1.03k went to the singer, so a relevant ratio to discuss is about 86%. This means there were still about 14% of viewers of Raye who did not go to the singer, which could still be considered moot. Does the long-term significance of the 25yo singer likewise overwhelm that of all the other Raye entries on the list? --Joy (talk) 18:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- The question is not if the long-term significance of the 25-year-old singer overwhelms all the other other Raye entries but if it overwhelms all the mononymous usages for that term. The only other mononymous usage for Raye on Wikiepdia is as an uncommon nickname for Sailor Mars. If someone looked for let's say Raye Birk, they would not simply search "Raye" and expect to find Raye Birk, they would search for "Raye Birk", the same way that someone wouldn't expect to find Adele Astaire by using the term "Adele". Célestin Denis (talk) 21:00, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- I take issue with the claim that people don't look up topics in name lists - both given names and surnames are used to search for people and surnames in particular are often used mononymously in practice. --Joy (talk) 19:03, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- The objective data shows that's rarely the case. Almost no one is clicking on anything on the dab page other than the singer. Station1 (talk) 19:54, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- 14% already isn't almost no one, and these percentages may well change over time. I'm not convinced it's wise for the encyclopedia to treat a current trend as gospel. (WP:RECENT) --Joy (talk) 10:05, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- It isn't 14%, it's about 1-2%, but even it was 20% (as claimed below), the singer would still be clearly what the very large majority of readers want and expect to find at the title Raye. - Station1 (talk) 18:16, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- It will be 1-2% only if you allow yourself to be misled by the nice graph. It only shows the outgoing traffic ratio with respect to those destinations that have made it into the dataset. Destinations with fewer than 10 hits for the month are omitted. And so are views of the dab page that don't result in a reader clicking on any link. – Uanfala (talk) 19:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I estimated only 1-2% "clicking on anything on the dab page other than the singer", so views that don't result in a click are irrelevant to that estimate. Sailor Mars results in something just over 1%. Everything else on the dab page is a partial title match (PTM). Since Martha Raye, which I believe is the most likely target among the PTMs (but pick any other link if you disagree), gets under 400 hits per day compared to 4,400 for Raye (singer), and since only a small minority, if anyone, would not know her first name, my estimate of 1-2% stands. As to dab page views that don't result in any outgoing click, about 8% of dab page views come from the hatnote on Raye (singer) itself, so anyone clicking on that hatnote and heading back to the singer's article would not be double counted. Station1 (talk) 04:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- To estimate the number of readers
clicking on anything on the dab page other than the singer
, you need to take into account that links with fewer than 10 monthly clicks don't make it into the dataset, so they could have been clicked between 0 and 9 times. There are 28 such links, so the clicks they received is within the range 1.3%–20%. – Uanfala (talk) 11:17, 20 March 2023 (UTC)- I agree that is the theoretical range, but to get anywhere near the top end of that range we would have to assume that: a) people clicking on the hatlink on Raye (singer) really want someone else, and b) close to all the links on the dab page (which are only PTMs) are getting close to but not more than 9 hits each, and I don't think that is a reasonable assumption. But, again, although this is an interesting digression, even if we accept the 20% estimate, the singer still gets at the very least 4 times the views of everyone else combined, easily meeting the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC criterion. Station1 (talk) 19:14, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- To estimate the number of readers
- I estimated only 1-2% "clicking on anything on the dab page other than the singer", so views that don't result in a click are irrelevant to that estimate. Sailor Mars results in something just over 1%. Everything else on the dab page is a partial title match (PTM). Since Martha Raye, which I believe is the most likely target among the PTMs (but pick any other link if you disagree), gets under 400 hits per day compared to 4,400 for Raye (singer), and since only a small minority, if anyone, would not know her first name, my estimate of 1-2% stands. As to dab page views that don't result in any outgoing click, about 8% of dab page views come from the hatnote on Raye (singer) itself, so anyone clicking on that hatnote and heading back to the singer's article would not be double counted. Station1 (talk) 04:24, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- It will be 1-2% only if you allow yourself to be misled by the nice graph. It only shows the outgoing traffic ratio with respect to those destinations that have made it into the dataset. Destinations with fewer than 10 hits for the month are omitted. And so are views of the dab page that don't result in a reader clicking on any link. – Uanfala (talk) 19:11, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- It isn't 14%, it's about 1-2%, but even it was 20% (as claimed below), the singer would still be clearly what the very large majority of readers want and expect to find at the title Raye. - Station1 (talk) 18:16, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- 14% already isn't almost no one, and these percentages may well change over time. I'm not convinced it's wise for the encyclopedia to treat a current trend as gospel. (WP:RECENT) --Joy (talk) 10:05, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- The objective data shows that's rarely the case. Almost no one is clicking on anything on the dab page other than the singer. Station1 (talk) 19:54, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- I take issue with the claim that people don't look up topics in name lists - both given names and surnames are used to search for people and surnames in particular are often used mononymously in practice. --Joy (talk) 19:03, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- The ratio is more like 82%, if you take account of the total views of the dab [2]. – Uanfala (talk) 13:35, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- The question is not if the long-term significance of the 25-year-old singer overwhelms all the other other Raye entries but if it overwhelms all the mononymous usages for that term. The only other mononymous usage for Raye on Wikiepdia is as an uncommon nickname for Sailor Mars. If someone looked for let's say Raye Birk, they would not simply search "Raye" and expect to find Raye Birk, they would search for "Raye Birk", the same way that someone wouldn't expect to find Adele Astaire by using the term "Adele". Célestin Denis (talk) 21:00, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, clear PRIMARY. DankJae 00:52, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support Per WP:PTM. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:49, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support. There is no other article on WP titled "Raye". - Station1 (talk) 18:26, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. The singer released her debut studio album on 3 Feb, of course she'll be what most readers are looking for at the moment. But before promoting a primary topic, we'd need some long-term indicators too. And (that should hardly need pointing out), there are other topics with the name (if not necessarily articles whose title is "Raye (foobar)"): the dab page lists two dozen people with the name and a bunch of communes or other places in France. – Uanfala (talk) 20:31, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- But almost no one is clicking on any of those 2 dozen people or communes, because almost no one would expect to find them under the title "Raye". Station1 (talk) 21:00, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say it's almost no-one. Even now, at a massive spike in the singer's popularity, almost one out of five readers searching for "Raye" are looking for something other than the singer. – Uanfala (talk) 21:13, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- That 1 in 5 is assuming that everyone who clicked on the disambiguation page did so while actively looking for a specific topic and didn't just click the hat-note on the singer's article and left. The 98.66% outgoing page views is staggering and absolutely shows that Raye is the primary topic by usage. Célestin Denis (talk) 00:00, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say it's almost no-one. Even now, at a massive spike in the singer's popularity, almost one out of five readers searching for "Raye" are looking for something other than the singer. – Uanfala (talk) 21:13, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- But almost no one is clicking on any of those 2 dozen people or communes, because almost no one would expect to find them under the title "Raye". Station1 (talk) 21:00, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Raye is a name. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:53, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- So are Selena and Nelly, both of which are common names, yet these don't have any disambiguation. Itsquietuptown ✉️📜 10:16, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Your vote is not based on any policy and is not constructive at all. If you're going to oppose, please find a valid argument next time, I expected better from a veteran editor. Célestin Denis (talk) 23:56, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Itsquietuptown ✉️📜 10:08, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Is she more likely to be looked for than everyone else on the list put together? Of course not. Does she have more long-term significance than anyone else on the list? Of course not. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:40, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
- And you're basing this on what? The statistics I linked are showing that yes, she is more likely to be looked for than everyone else on the list when Raye is searched. The only other mononymous usage of Raye is as an uncommon nickname for an anime character named Sailor Mars which absolutely will not hold as much long-term significance as the singer. Célestin Denis (talk) 23:54, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
"Preceded by"?
[edit]This wording has been restored twice:
Her 2022 single "Escapism" (featuring 070 Shake), first earned virality on TikTok, became her first song to peak atop the UK Singles Chart. Furthermore, it reached the top ten in over 22 countries, and became her first entry on the US Billboard Hot 100. It was preceded by the release of her debut studio album My 21st Century Blues (2023), which received both commercial success and widespread critical acclaim, earning Album of the Year nominations at the 2023 Mercury Prize and the 2024 Brit Awards.
How was a 2022 single preceded by the release of a 2023 album? It's simplest to use chronological order, but it looks like we are, and are contradicting it with an erroneous expression. Wouldn't "Subsequently, her debut studio album My 21st Century Blues (2023) received both commercial success and widespread critical acclaim..." be more logical? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:46, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- User:Rustyleigh, your explanation would be appreciated. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:15, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- No-one has explained how a 2023 album could have preceded a 2022 single, so I changed the word "preceded" to "followed" in the article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, the text I edited as of today stated that it preceded the 2023 album, not that it was preceded by the newer album. However, I think my copy edit was good, as history moves forward, never back. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:39, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- No-one has explained how a 2023 album could have preceded a 2022 single, so I changed the word "preceded" to "followed" in the article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
Jazz influence
[edit]Isn't her music influenced by jazz? If so, shouldn't we mention that in this article? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 17:09, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
- Go ahead and mention it, if you have a good source for the assertion that you can cite in the article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:51, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
GA Review
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Nominator: CatchMe (talk · contribs) 06:40, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer: Medxvo (talk · contribs) 20:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for your generous PR review, I'll do a full review for this as soon as Wednesday, just wanted to pick it up :) Medxvo (talk) 20:42, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking this! I thought I would have to wait longer for this one. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 23:10, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
- No need for the EP abbreviation in the lead since it only has one mention
- Isn't this the same case as, for example, RIAA? When the abbreviation is present since it's later in the body. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 13:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think so. Since both are treated separately and we're not mentioning the abbreviation again in the lead, I don't think there's a need for it, but that's a very minor nitpick so I'll leave it up to you. Medxvo (talk) 14:45, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Isn't this the same case as, for example, RIAA? When the abbreviation is present since it's later in the body. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 13:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- "attended a church" - "attended church"
- "at the age of 8" - "at the age of eight" per MOS:NUMERAL?
- "at the weekends" - "on the weekends"
- I think several incidents of "was featured on" should be just "featured on"
- "Jax Jones' " / "Kali Uchis' " - "Jax Jones's" / "Kali Uchis's" — MOS:'S
- "served as an opening act for a concert tour by the singer Jess Glynne" - I think we can add that this happened in 2017?
- The tour started in 2016 and Raye served as a supporting act that year. I added a source from Raye's Twitter account, which is not verified (anyone can be now) but it's linked in her official website, so I think is ok? CatchMe (talk · contribs) 13:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies, I wrote 2017 by mistake. The Twitter source looks fine to me since it's very clearly Raye's own account, so that should be okay. Medxvo (talk) 14:45, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- The tour started in 2016 and Raye served as a supporting act that year. I added a source from Raye's Twitter account, which is not verified (anyone can be now) but it's linked in her official website, so I think is ok? CatchMe (talk · contribs) 13:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- "The singles "The Line" and "Decline" featuring Mr Eazi were also released in 2017" - This reads like both featured Mr Eazi, I suggest paraphrasing to "The singles "The Line" and "Decline" were also released in 2017; the latter features the singer Mr Eazi", or any similar wording
- "It included previously released songs alongside the singles "Love of Your Life" and "Regardless" with Rudimental" - I think we have the same issue here
- "stand-alone single" - No need for the hyphen?
- "was certified platinum by the BPI" - "was certified platinum by the British Phonographic Industry (BPI)"
- "The critic Rachel Aroesti from The Guardian gave it a mixed review" - I think it would be a better option if we could share what Aroesti liked/disliked about the project instead of saying that it was a mixed review, if that's possible
- Isn't the Mercury Prize nomination for My 21st Century Blues kind of a big deal? I don't see it mentioned in the article at all
- "Raye opened for ..." - "Throughout 2023, Raye opened for ..."?
- ", from Beyoncé's ..." - I think the comma can be removed here
- "Taylor Swift's The Eras Tour" - "Taylor Swift's the Eras Tour"
- "final Wembley Stadium show" - "final Wembley Stadium show in August 2024"?
References from this revision
- Refs 9 and 100 seem duplicated
- Some refs are missing the date; ref 3 (30 December 2024); ref 6 (24 November 2017); ref 43 (22 April 2021); ref 57 (25 August 2022); ref 58 (13 October 2022); ref 84 (5 August 2024); ref 104 (15 November 2024); and ref 105 (10 January 2023)
- Refs 39, 50, 52, 57, 58, 77, 78, 80, 84, and 103 missing the authors
- No need for ISSN in refs 48, 118, and 127
Spotchecks
- Ref 1(c) - OK
- Ref 4 - OK
- Ref 6(b) - OK
- Ref 11 - OK
- Ref 13 - OK
- Ref 17 - OK
- Ref 25 - OK
- Ref 33 - OK
- Ref 35 - OK
- Ref 40(b) - OK
- Ref 45 - OK
- Ref 49 - I can't see neither XCX nor Sawayama
- Ref 50 - OK
- Ref 59 - OK
- Ref 68 - It is, in fact, not her first appearance on the Global 200, which is also not supported by the source
- Ref 72 - OK
- Ref 74 - OK
- Ref 82 - OK
- Ref 85 - OK
- Ref 88 - OK
- Ref 93 - OK
- Ref 98 - OK
- Ref 102 - OK
- Ref 108 - OK
- Ref 113 - OK
- Ref 121 - OK
- Ref 129 - OK
@CatchMe: That was sooner than expected, I'll put this On hold for now. Good work overall on the article! Medxvo (talk) 10:58, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review, @Medxvo: I addressed your comments and left two responses above. CatchMe (talk · contribs) 13:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- @CatchMe: I've replied to the two points and made a minor copyedit here to separate the two sentences, feel free to make any adjustments. I'll ✓ Pass the article now, many congrats!! Medxvo (talk) 14:45, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
- Some of the suggested "corrections" in the GA Review above are suggestions to change British English to U.S. English. I'm an American, but I know enough British English to know that "at the weekend" is a standard British expression and "on the weekend" is not, and also that Brits hyphenate a lot of nouns and adjectives that we Americans write as compound nouns and adjectives, so "stand-alone" strikes me as normal British English. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ikan Kekek, thanks for pointing these out, are there any other similar incidents or only these two? I don't usually write in British English so I'm not familiar with it. The above suggestions are just "suggestions" that are discussed with the nominator, they are not "corrections" so there's no need to put that in direct quotes. Pinging CatchMe to check this. Medxvo (talk) 15:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I see. That was all I noticed. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've fixed them myself, thank you again! Medxvo (talk) 21:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sure thing! Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:21, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've fixed them myself, thank you again! Medxvo (talk) 21:32, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- I see. That was all I noticed. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:14, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ikan Kekek, thanks for pointing these out, are there any other similar incidents or only these two? I don't usually write in British English so I'm not familiar with it. The above suggestions are just "suggestions" that are discussed with the nominator, they are not "corrections" so there's no need to put that in direct quotes. Pinging CatchMe to check this. Medxvo (talk) 15:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
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