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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Northamptonshire has had ninety-two railway stations, but now has only six?

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The result was: promoted by TheNuggeteer talk 04:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Northamptonshire used to have 92 railway stations, but now has only 6?

Source: ISBN-978-1-84674-108-1

ALT1: ... that rail transport in Northamptonshire is popular with freight due to its location in the “golden logistics triangle”?

Source: [[1]]

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Moved to mainspace by DimensionalFusion (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

DimensionalFusion (talk) 17:25, 16 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

This is a new and substantial article, that has no copyvio problems, and is well sourced. The main source for the article, and the hook, is a book (not digital) so AGF for this. Hook ALT0 is effective: it is short, and surprising, and is stated in the opening lede of the article. ALT1 is less immediately easy to understand without a bit more context. Good to go! Chaiten1 (talk) 18:51, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Passed.

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Nominator: DimensionalFusion (talk · contribs) 08:30, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: MaranoFan (talk · contribs) 08:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will review this soon.--N Ø 08:56, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Had a couple of quick comments before I do the full review,

There should not be references in the lead as this text should appear in the article body and be cited there.
Where are the sources for the sub-sections in Current operations?--N Ø 19:12, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
References have been moved out of the lead and to appropriate sections. I've added sources to statements made in Current operations DimensionalFusion (talk · she/her) 10:04, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for addressing this.--N Ø 10:30, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Northamptonshire historically had many railways and stations, having had 92[1] total railway stations, most of which were closed following the Beeching cuts, leaving the county with 6 railway stations still open on the national rail network." - Don't think ref in the middle of the sentence is required since there is no direct quote.
"The first major passenger railway to enter Northamptonshire was the London and Birmingham Railway (L&BR) in 1838, however did not pass through the county town of Northampton. This is thought to be because of the gradients from Blisworth, where the L&BR passed, to Northampton were larger than locomotives at the time were capable of handling." - Change to "The first major passenger railway to enter Northamptonshire was the London and Birmingham Railway (L&BR) in 1838; however, it did not pass through the county town of Northampton. This is thought to be because the gradients from Blisworth, where the L&BR passed, to Northampton were larger than locomotives at the time were capable of handling."
"This meant that the largest settlement in the county, Northampton, did not have direct rail links to London. A branch from the main line was built to Northampton in the early 1840s: the Northampton and Peterborough Railway, from Blisworth, which gave the town indirect rail links to London and Birmingham." - This is used to start a new section so what is "This" referring to?
"The successor to the L&BR, the London and North Western Railway (LNWR) decided to construct the Northampton loop line through Northampton in the 1870s. It was built as part of a wider scheme to double the capacity of the West Coast Main Line between Bletchley and Rugby, by quadrupling the track; however, routing the additional tracks on a deviation via Northampton had the advantage of giving the town a much better rail service, including a direct service to London, and avoiding the cost of widening the Kilsby Tunnel. The LNWR obtained Parliamentary approval for the line in 1875, and commenced construction in 1877." - "The successor to the L&BR, the London and North Western Railway (LNWR), decided to construct the Northampton loop line through Northampton in the 1870s. It was built as part of a wider scheme to double the capacity of the West Coast Main Line between Bletchley and Rugby by quadrupling the track; however, routing the additional tracks on a deviation via Northampton had the advantage of giving the town a much better rail service, including a direct service to London, and avoiding the cost of widening the Kilsby Tunnel. The LNWR obtained parliamentary approval for the line in 1875 and commenced construction in 1877."
"When it was decided to expand Northampton railway station, owing to the proximity of the River Nene, the only way the expansion could be facilitated was to expand onto the site of Northampton Castle.[6] On 18 December 1876, the L&NWR purchased the site from William Walker and subsequently demolished the remains of the castle except for the postern gate which, following a local petition, was moved to a new site in the boundary wall of the new station where it remains to this day." - "When it was decided to expand Northampton railway station, owing to the proximity of the River Nene, the only way the expansion could be facilitated was to expand onto the site of Northampton Castle. On 18 December 1876, the L&NWR purchased the site from William Walker and subsequently demolished the remains of the castle except for the postern gate, which, following a local petition, was moved to a new site in the boundary wall of the new station, where it remains to this day."
"Following the Great Depression in the United Kingdom, several post-grouping railways were forced to initiate station closures. The London, Midland and Scottish Railway, sucessors to the Midland Railway, decided in July 1939 to close St. John's as a cost-cutting measure. Services were switched to Castle station via Hardingstone junction." - "Following the Great Depression in the United Kingdom, several post-grouping railways were forced to initiate station closures. The London, Midland, and Scottish Railway, sucessors to the Midland Railway, decided in July 1939 to close St. John's as a cost-cutting measure. Services were switched to Castle station via Hardingstone junction."
"Richard Beeching, then Chairman of the British Railways began a reorganisation process known as the Beeching cuts" - "Richard Beeching, then Chairman of the British Railways, began a reorganisation process known as the Beeching cuts"
"The L&BR, prior to its merger to become the London and North Western Railway (LNWR), wanted to a branch line from Rugby to Peterborough, originally to keep the Midland Railway out of Northamptonshire." - This seems grammatically incorrect.
Overall, the article has a List-y presentation. I will go through some similar articles to determine whether GA or FL might be the more appropriate process for it. Do you have examples of similar-presenting articles like this that have gone through the GAN process?--N Ø 10:30, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The citation in the middle of the sentence is mainly for DYK so that people can see the number has a direct citation.

The only GA-quality article of the same series as this is Rail transport in New Zealand ITMT, I've made the changes requested, bar the one about St. Johns as they look identical DimensionalFusion (talk · she/her) 11:30, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the example. I think I can pass this in that case. If someone has the same question about the article in the future, it could always be revisited.--N Ø 16:45, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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