Talk:Titanic

Ships are not women

The article refers to the ship as "She" when it is, in fact, an inanimate object. If it must be anthropomorphized, no gender can, nor should be, assigned to it arbitrarily. The ship is either an "it" or a "They" 66.23.113.178 (talk) 04:23, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Female pronouns for ships is maritime tradition. It's not meant as a slur. 57.135.233.22 (talk) 11:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

This argument has cropped up many times on this Talk page over the years (see the archives) - perhaps an FAQ should be added here I've just added an FAQ to the header here. Per WP:SHE4SHIPS: Ships may be referred to by either feminine pronouns ("she", "her") or neuter pronouns ("it", "its"). Either usage is acceptable, but each article should be internally consistent and exclusively employ only one style. (By way of comparison, Wikipedia also has many references to countries and cities as "she", e.g. "Britain and her allies"; "Tokyo and her sister city New York", etc.) Muzilon (talk) 23:45, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

True 65.18.39.253 (talk) 16:13, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

Lowest complete deck?

In the Dimensions and layout section, "From top to bottom, the decks were:"

[...]

• F Deck, the middle deck, was the last complete deck, sunk 2024

accommodated Second and Third Class passengers and several departments of the crew.[...]

• G Deck, the lower deck, was the lowest complete deck that carried passengers, and had the lowest portholes, just above the waterline.

[...]

If "from top to bottom," F is the "last complete deck", how is G also a complete deck?

This needs some clarification. 100.2.99.250 (talk) 18:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I also wonder what is meant by a "complete deck". It's apparently not the same as "run uninterrupted from stem to stern" because that's C deck. GA-RT-22 (talk) 13:32, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

I think it means that the deck itself (as in "hit the deck!") extends continuously from bow to stern in some way, without transverse interruption. This image illustrates what I mean. If that's what is meant, then G deck is indeed the lowest complete deck, whereas decks lower than that are transversely interrupted by the boiler spaces. Having said all of that, the article text is ill-defined and clearly contradictory, so I'm in favor of just removing those qualifiers until a source can clear it up.Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 04:49, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Edit request, 24 Dec 2023

"Majestic resumed her old position on the White Star Line's New York service post the loss of Titanic" -- using "post" instead of "after" (outside set phrases like post hoc) is stuffy and pretentious, and confusing since "post" has other meanings in English. Simply replace with "after". (Also, there is a stray extra apostrophe in this sentence.) 86.152.171.24 (talk) 04:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Muzilon (talk) 04:30, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 January 2024

PickleKid69 (talk) 17:44, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

grammar edit

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Rehsarb (talk) 17:51, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

Should this be moved under RMS Titanic?

It would be more consistent with the other ships, such as the RMS Olymipic. 82.197.13.175 (talk) 16:33, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

See "Requested move 1 July 2023" above? Has been discussed many times. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:38, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

I cant seem to find that topic. Is it on the talk page? 82.197.13.175 (talk) 13:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

You'll find them in the talk page archives. Canterbury Tail talk 13:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

deadliest?

The Sultana had over 2000 deaths taking Union soldiers home after the Civil War. 71.41.188.250 (talk) 03:29, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Sinking of the Sultana (steamboat) incurred the loss of 1,167 lives. Dolphin (t) 11:55, 31 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2024

217.34.48.59 (talk) 12:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Titanic sunk in 2008 in the Pacific Ocean

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 13:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2024 (2)

217.34.48.59 (talk) 13:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Titanic sunk 2026

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 13:05, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 May 2024

"skins" should be "it sinks". 31.94.30.64 (talk) 09:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:15, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

The death/survivor count and passenger count is outdated

It should be 1,496 deaths,712 survivors, and 2,208 total passengers.

The inquiries found that the ship seen by Californian was in fact Titanic and that it would have been possible for Californian to aid rescue; therefore, Captain Lord had acted improperly in failing to do so.[

The statement is correct and well footnoted: but it doesn't seem to be noted that, following the discovery of wreck, the position is now known, and not what the enquiry accepted, so the enquiry and 'subsequent arguments' are now seen in a different light. 124.187.219.128 (talk) 07:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Tons and captions

@Canterbury Tail: I don't care whether we use "ton" or "tonne" but I think we should spell it the same way in both the lead and the Lifeboats section. Normally the lead summarizes the article.

Also did you intend to revert the caption changes? We don't usually put a period at the end of a sentence fragment in a caption. GA-RT-22 (talk) 21:05, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Ah no you've got me there on the caption stuff. That was me not paying enough attention, you're quite right on those.

As for the ton vs tonne thing, the article is written in British English so it should be entirely consistent with that. That would mean then we should change those other sections to the tonne spelling as well. Since I reverted your edit, I'll take the responsibility of putting the captions back and make the other changes. Canterbury Tail talk 21:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)