Talk:RLV Technology Demonstration Programme

Requested move 27 February 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. – robertsky (talk) 02:48, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

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RLV Technology Demonstration Programme → Pushpak (spaceplane) – namechange as per this slide in today's livestream —🪦VSVNB1058 (2020-2023) (TALK) 07:53, 27 February 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 16:57, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Disagree: We need larger context of it. Is it just particular mission is it about whole programme etc. We should wait for the name change to show up in official documents and website like it was done for LVM3. At one point they even referred to RLV-TD as Pegasus in one of their videos but clearly that was one off mention.  Ohsin  18:14, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Ah bro, its can even be a rlv pushpak like space Shuttle Atlantis. But no problem, lets see where this discussion goes. —🪦VSVNB1058 (2020-2023) (TALK) 18:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Few RLV-LEX tests should be attempted in coming weeks/months and may be it will clear up then or in Annual Report due in Early March 2024.  Ohsin  18:48, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Supported, Times of India already made an article about the renaming of the RLV program to Pushpak. user:FossilDS 17:48, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Oppose per WP:NAMECHANGE. Pushpak (spaceplane) can be created as a redirect here, but it is far too early to move this page and I can find next to no sources using this new name compared to the old one. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 00:17, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/science/story/india-reusable-landing-vehicle-to-be-called-pushpak-pm-reviews-progress-2507692-2024-02-27 take this mate @Eejit43 —🪦VSVNB1058 (2020-2023) (TALK) 03:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Alright? I don't disagree that this is a new name for the subject, I'm opposing as it hasn't been shown to be the WP:COMMONNAME yet per WP:NAMECHANGE. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 03:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I am bit confused later that is media misinterpreted by the fact that, is it RLV Pusphak synonymous to Space Shuttle (SS) Discovery. Like we say SS Discovery, isn't it its RLV Pushpak unlike just Pushpak? (Sorry if you didn't understand I will say again) —🪦VSVNB1058 (2020-2023) (TALK) 03:27, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I kinda of understand what you are saying, but I don't see how it directly relates to this request.

Again, as "Pushpak" is the new name of the "RLV Technology Demonstration Programme", then WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGE apply and I oppose this move.

I don't see how "RLV Pusphak" comes into this, that title isn't directly involved in this request, and the current title and requested target are entirely different, it has nothing to do with abbreviations, etc. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 03:57, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

No i mean @Eejit43 isnt only that ship, pushpak? if yes then i am withdrawing my move request —🪦VSVNB1058 (2020-2023) (TALK) 04:41, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I think I understand now, is Pushpak the name of a specific shuttle? Then that is definitely not a proper move, as it is a subtopic. ~ Eejit43 (talk) 13:01, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

AGREED RAZOR-X (talk) 13:07, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I didnt said its surely, i said maybe. I said that why i am confused is media speaking truth of name change or they are misinterpreted a specific shuttle name as overall program name —🪦VSVNB1058 (2020-2023) (TALK) 16:39, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Confusion since isro didn't say in public. Just it was showed and people either said insider news or speculation —🪦VSVNB1058 (2020-2023) (TALK) 16:40, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Abstain ; we ought to wait till more sources confirm ( maybe we can create after the RLV - ORX or that orbital re-entry experiment . ISRO is bound to clear up the name by then. RAZOR-X (talk) 02:23, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Noice —🪦VSVNB1058 (2020-2023) (TALK) 03:21, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, according to new reports like https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/indias-isro-to-conduct-reusable-launch-vehicle-rlv-landing-experiment-in-challakere/amp_articleshow/108535242.cms

Another LEX is planned . If they use "PUSHPAK" while refering to it in the media and in ISRO Press releases, then we can decide on a renaming for the test vehicle. RΔZ🌑R-𝕏 (talk) 05:13, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Spaceflight has been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 16:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Oppose: creation of a redirect page at Pushpak (spaceplane) would be good, supported by the addition of emboldened 'Pushpak' text in the lede sentence. (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 23:46, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Weak oppose - as above, per WP:NAMECHANGES we can rely on multiple reliable sources that are independent of the subject and use the updated name in body text (not just the title, ideally) published after the name change, as a basis for a move, but we must also take into consideration other factors such as the common name (if for example there are also multiple RS after the name change using the old name, we will need to decide which is best), as it stands, it seems too early. ASUKITE 17:00, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

LEX & HEX

Should we cretes different pages for the HEX-01 mission and the LEX mission detailing more about the individual tests? Or should we keep them mergerd in the article itself? RΔZ🌑R-𝕏 (talk) 05:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)