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Etymology

The first time I heard the term "Pineapple Express" was from Seattle TV station KOMO's weatherman Ray Ramsey in the later Sixties. Ray Ramsey was a fun and unique personality and coined many terms such as "snow snifters" and "drizmal". It would be in his character to make the term up. There's a Seattle Times article that describes his style: [1] RainCoaster (talk) 08:53, 11 December 2014 (UTC)RainCoaster[reply]

I rarely hear the term used anymore, and I was surprised to find this page even exists. The term "atmospheric river" is the term of art now. Not sure when the change took place, but I haven't heard people use "Pineapple Express" in about a decade. Makes me think this page should redirect to atmospheric river. Viriditas (talk) 21:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Northern California 2014

If the recent Calfornia storm isn't a Pineapple Express, should it even be mentioned here? (Although on NPR it was just attributed to the P.E.) Looks like there needs to be an appropriate entry under Category:2015 meteorology (see Category:2014 meteorology for appropriate article names) and the bulk of the info about the recent storm moved to there. Valfontis (talk) 21:02, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. I didn't want to remove this section outright - which is why I just added the actual storm distinction, in case others felt strongly about having the section here. I figure many people are probably viewing this page after the recent storm, and might just add it back if it weren't mentioned. But I'm all for moving the section to a meteorology page. Velocitay (talk) 23:05, 12 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In source that user Velocitay provided a Meteorologist expert says that it is not that of a pineapple express. But he doesn't actually confirm that it is not a pineapple express. For now I think we have to wait until other sources actually confirm that this isn't a pineapple express.--Chamith (talk) 05:29, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question - how am I to confirm that the storm was *not* by a pineapple express other than by referring to expert opinions stated on verifiable online sources? I don't know what the burden of proof is - do I need to call up the expert meteorologist? (If there is a standard Wikipedia article on this subject and I've missed it, please let me know - sorry to cause a disruption!)

As a side note, I talked to a friend who heard on the radio this morning on the East Coast that another professional meterologist with the American Meteorological society claims that this particular storm is *not* a pineapple express by definition. Rather, it's a great buzzword and the press has latched onto it because it sells newspapers and makes for good weather TV. Clearly, that's not something that I can cite on Wikipedia, but I'm just looking for clarity on how Wikipedia deals with issues like this. Velocitay (talk) 05:38, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not arguing that this is a pineapple express. Maybe it's not a pineapple express. I'm just saying that lots of sources has already named this as a pineapple express, suddenly when someone says that it's not a pineapple express readers might get confused. So what I'm asking is to wait until multiple sources actually confirm that this is not a pineapple express. If American Meteorological society claims that this isn't a pineapple express then please re-add content I removed along with that source.--Chamith (talk) 06:00, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

New question. Are the events in Los Angeles related to the same weather system? P.S. Velocitay, here is the relevant guideline you were asking about. Valfontis (talk) 19:35, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pineapple Express vs. El Niño?

Could some weather/climate wizard go into the details of how these phenomena are or are not related? MrRedwood (talk) 03:13, 21 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

February 2019

[2] I didn't add it to the article because I don't know if it qualifies as an "extreme case" --213.138.251.225 (talk) 09:39, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]