Talk:November 2023 Mindanao earthquake

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On 4 April 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to 2023 Sarangani earthquake. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move 4 April 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. – robertsky (talk) 21:02, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

November 2023 Mindanao earthquake → 2023 Sarangani earthquake – The earthquake struck offshore near Sarangani province and the municipality of Sarangani in nearby Davao Occidental. Based on the location and magnitude of the quake which was in the far south of Mindanao, there was barely any damage/no casualties in the northern and western parts of Mindanao. Some examples of articles that aren't named 'Mindanao earthquake' with similar magnitudes are: 2019 Cotabato earthquakes and 2019 Davao del Sur earthquake (so it's better to replace 'Mindanao' with a local name). On a separate note, I think it's better to leave December 2023 Mindanao earthquake as is, due to it being a much more powerful quake and to differentiate it from this previous "November Mindanao earthquake". RPC7778 (talk) 05:20, 4 April 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 20:10, 11 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Tambayan Philippines has been notified of this discussion. HueMan1 (talk) 23:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, only because the name should be what the sources call it, and the majority of them are calling it a "Mindanao earthquake". WP:COMMONNAME Since Sarangani is a part of Mindanao, the current name is descriptive enough. I think most earthquakes around Mindanao are called "Mindanao earthquake"s so there a reason to stay consistent, which is why we differentiate it with the date "November 2023". Even if the sources were evenly split, I would be more inclined to stay with Mindanao over Sarangani simply because the island as a whole is better known than the one province, so it better serves the reader who is looking for earthquakes in this region of the Philippines. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 06:22, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If that's the case, shouldn't the links I cited above be re-titled October 2019 Mindanao earthquakes and December 2019 Mindanao earthquake? Additionally this as August 2021 Mindanao earthquake? I think it's not descriptive enough because even the major sources of the events listed above are labelled as Mindanao earthquake compared to their titles.

If you apply WP:COMMONNAME to this one, then should it also be applied in my cited links above and all be re-titled as Mindanao earthquake/s? RPC7778 (talk) 14:45, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It all depends on the sources. If the sources mainly use one name, that is the name they use and typically create a redirect with "Mindanao" in the title. If the usage is split between Mindanao and another name, then you default to Mindanao for consistency. We follow the sources, and not just the sources used in the article. That said, the Cotabato article *might* need a rename, I haven't examined all the sources, but that isn't at issue in this particular discussion. The name *might* be fine as is because that was an unusual cluster of earthquakes in one particular providence, Cotabato, which is fundamentally different. If you think there is a problem with how we are naming them (I can't say, to be honest) then maybe a discussion at Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines would be good. I'm not stuck on any particular outcome for these, really, and I haven't examined the other articles. I just looked at this one, and felt the sources were mainly using "Mindanao" as the name. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 05:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Mindanao is specific enough to hold notable earthquakes for that period. And the fact that there are two Saranganis could give rise to further discussions on whether to rename it the Sarangani province earthquake or the Davao Occidental earthquake. Borgenland (talk) 07:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Due to the proximity of the two Saranganis, further discussions aren't really warranted. RPC7778 (talk) 07:57, 23 April 2024 (UTC)~~[reply]

I forgot to clarify, but you do know we don't usually name earthquakes after the municipal level??? Borgenland (talk) 16:14, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on how you interpret Sarangani. RPC7778 (talk) 17:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.