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Requested move 9 February 2021

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No Crystal StairNo Crystal Stair (book) – I think the phrase is much more commonly associated with the poem itself, "Mother to Son", and the line should redirect there. A cursory gsearch agrees with me. Eddie891 Talk Work 22:36, 9 February 2021 (UTC) Relisting. — Twassman [Talk·Contribs] 06:13, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Station1: Overpreciision only applies to article titles, not redirects. If the criteria for a redirect was 'could be the title of the article', we'd have to go around deleting thousands of redirects. Additionally, one article being older than another doesn't matter-- we have lots of vast content gaps, poetry being one of them, and on the flip side we delete hundreds of articles from 5+ years ago. When I search for 'No Crystal Stair', the first result is the poetry foundation's listing of "Mother to Son". It's further clear that the phrase "No Crystal Stair" has been used numerous times outside of just this book as a metaphor ([1], [2]), but they all originate with Langston Hughes's poem, and there's a wealth of scholarship that uses the metaphor of a crystal stair to reference the poem rather than this book([3], [4],[5],[6],[7],). Yes there is two whole journal article about this book, but I don't see it outweighing all other scholarship. When somebody says "No crystal stair", they are far more likely to be referencing Langston Hughes's poem than this book. In fact, this book's title itself is a reference to the poem. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Parenthetical qualifiers are necessary when there are two or more articles that would otherwise have identical titles. There are other cases where an artificial title is desirable because one article is the primary topic for more than one possible title, but they are rare. In this case, there is definitely no title conflict, and, in my opinion, no evidence that most people searching for "No Crystal Stair" on WP are looking for the poem. This article averages only 5 views per day, which is not more than some similar novels. The fact that Mother to Son is a new article is important only because it has not yet had a chance to demonstrate significant interest through pageviews. If, in a couple of months, the new article gets a relatively large number of pageviews, this will be worth reconsidering, but all evidence so far suggests there will probably not be that level of interest, despite the quality and value of the article. Station1 (talk) 18:04, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.