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Hi, have we reached a consensus that "-born" should be removed from lead sentence? Current one (... a Trinidadian-born ... based in the United States.) is the consensus version (see this conversation), and the reason for this reversal and this one was because I found it necessary to discuss this issue here first. Thedarkknightli (talk) 01:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a longtime editor of this article, I vote that her nationality just be removed from the lead. Being Trindadian or American don't seem to be huge parts of her career or her music, besides a couple mentions of being an island girl from the West Indies in a verse or two. There's too much edit warring over this issue when it is not really a relevant conversation regardless. PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 10:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since she is not a US citizen and she was born in Trinidad and Tobago to Trinidadian parents, she is Trinidadian and Trinidadian only. Nationality should not be removed since there is only one right answer. LMOBX (talk) 00:20, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't have a problem with removing Minaj's nationality from the first sentence cuz MOS:NATIONALITY states, "... in controversial or unclear cases, nationality is sometimes omitted." However, I don't think we should completely remove it from the lead either cuz I actually find being Trinidadian important to her notability; I mean, there're >10 reliable sources that have called her "Trinidadian" (Revolt.tv, BBC, Billboard, SCMP, The Nation, The Punch, Fox5sandiego.com, AP, Citizen.digital, Channelstv.com, and Zoomtventertainment.com). I suggest adding a sentence to the second paragraph's beginning: Born in Trinidad and Tobago, Minaj moved to the United States at age five.Thedarkknightli (talk) 16:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it should be removed. She reportedly stated she's not a U.S citizen, so her nationality is Trinidadian. Additionally, being an immigrant is something she discussed in interviews and that seems to be significant to her early journey. She also apparently referenced being an immigrant in several songs. Her nationality should stay in the intro. If her citizenship status changes, that will be updated. Lapadite (talk) 11:44, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Where is the source saying that she is credited for the "resurgence of female rap" Was it Billboard or the NY Times? Is it common enough for it to be in her lead article? PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 10:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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This article hasn't been reassessed in the twelve years after it was nominated and listed for GA. Not only has the article undergone drastic changes, so has Minaj's career and public image as well. The latest section chronicling her Pink Friday 2 era is twelve paragraphs long.. Clearly there's a content issue here with the bloating, although as a novice editor I'm not sure what. PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 10:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do want to help but the article is so bloated that most of my editing would be content deletion, (12 paragraphs for one career section is insane) and that is usually frowned upon and might start an edit war. I wouldn't participate, but it has the potential to get messy PHShanghai | they/them (talk) 15:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
From a glance, 12 paragraphs is uncomfortably long for one section on Pink Friday 2. That definitely needs a trim. The "filmography" section on the other hand is glaringly incomplete when not listing even half of her movies. Lots of citations aren't formatted correctly (e.g. AllMusic, Instagram, iTunes, Digital Spy, BBC News, Capital, Catholic League, and Apple Music shouldn't have italics while some refs are missing authors), and I'm not sure it's appropriate to use referral links to albums or mixtapes close to section headers. The article doesn't seem very stable at the moment, and either way I reluctantly say delist the article given the many issues it has, with excess detail just being one of them as outlined above. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 16:48, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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