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Roman Zolanski

Roman is a gay male, not a woman. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.113.112.169 (talk) 04:17, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Since I can't do it myself... can an administrator please clear up the choppiness of a sentence in the first paragraph?

It reads "is a recording artist acquiring fame after being signed to Young Money."

I believe it should read "is a recording artist who acquired fame after being signed to Young Money." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachsafteryou (talk • contribs) 23:53, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

her accent is mockney not typical british! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.83.158 (talk) 23:29, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

(Not sure where this question should go...) Was Minaj in Every Girl, the first single of Young Money Entertainment's We Are Young Money album? I cleaned up the English in the second paragraph of the 2007-2009 section, but I also removed reference to the Every Girl single because I think Minaj wasn't on it. She's not listed on the Every Girl page or the relevant tracklist for the album. Magnabonzo (talk) 01:24, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

The person [above] is correct, Roman Zolanski is a gay male. The other facts stated about him, and his mother, are true. In her televised documentary titled "My Time Now" she discusses Roman and how he came to be, stating that he is a gay male who was born out of rage. She also states that he says the things she cannot.

http://www.spin.com/articles/nicki-minajs-roman-zolanski-alter-ego-brief-biography Please clear this untrue statement up as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.220.183.43 (talk) 07:53, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Edit Request, December 7

Under Personal Life, please remove the link to the Kinsey Scale entry in the following sentence: "There are so many shades in the middle, and you’ve got to let people feel comfortable with saying what they want to say when they want to say it."

This is just bad form generally, and probably violates some BLP guideline. She didn't state she was talking about the Kinsey Scale specifically or even indicate she knew of its existence. Besides, the scale is just one measure of the thing, not the thing itself (i.e. she's talking about a range of sexualities, not the psychological evaluation/analysis of a range of sexualities). 71.192.247.162 (talk) 09:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Done --Jnorton7558 (talk) 22:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Profile picture

This picture of Nicki Minaj is very unflattering. can we please be a little more respectful and use a decent picture? perhaps this one http://mypinkfriday.com/media/photos/13651/377931 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.17.144.8 (talk) 19:31, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

We're not allowed to use copyrighted photos such as those (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 20:56, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Other Ventures

It should be noted that she has released SIX different shades of nail polish through OPI and has released TWO different lipsticks with MAC. She is also trying to get into fashion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rapfan45 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

How is the number of shades relevant? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

How is it not relevant?--74.179.215.67 (talk) 00:20, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Because the article is about Minaj, not her cosmetics line. Fantastic argument though - really helps to gain new WP:CONSENSUS (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:52, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Personal Life

Is the following fact really needed? "In July 2011, Minaj's cousin Nicholas was murdered near his home in Brooklyn, New York City.[66]"? I find it to be non-relevant to her personal life. 98.235.252.188 (talk) 08:45, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Did it have an effect on her, her personality, her writing? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:24, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Musical style

SHE NEEDS a musical style section !!! she has different syles shes pop/R&b/RAP and also ass her different accents every artist have one of these Nicki is a huge icon and even just her Wikipedia page will make people think of her that way and also change the picture to something more recent because that really doesnt represnt her style and image now.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77084037@N03/6914001397/ < Nicki Minaj in MAC store in New York City.

We're not allowed to use those photos, due to WP:COPYRIGHT. See the image use policy for more (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:25, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Nicki minaj

Nicki was with young money back when lil wayne was releasing the Drought 3, In 2007. She appears on "cant stop, wont stop" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.28.195.34 (talk) 21:01, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Minaj/ménage reference

Even in Nicki Minaj's earliest work, it is clear that the name "Minaj" is sexual innuendo—a pseudo-Hindi version of ménage based off her actual last name, Maraj. I think this is worth noting in the article as sexuality was a very important part of her image before she gained her current fame. Before all of today's rappers did their "have a ménage like Nick" punchlines, Nicki herself did them and it's clear that this was an important reflection of her act at the time; even a few more recent songs like "Lil Freak" and "Monster" have such jokes included. I cannot edit this article myself, but I do believe that this is of great significance as means of explaining her stage name. Mhavril39 (talk) 09:34, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

With a valid reference to support the intent of her name to sound like this (which, as a French speaker, it is obvious), it becomes original research, and this not allowable. For example, Bruce Cockburn has nothing to do with a flaming penis (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:09, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 6 March 2012

The Wikipedia page for Nicki Minaj has a mistake in it. Nicki was born in 1984 not 1982 as it is stated here Nicki's account on her Website so please fix that as soon as you can. Thanks! --Dylzaar (talk) 16:26, 7 March 2012 (UTC) Dylan Lee

Please see the archives for this page for the long history. In short: an police report has been accepted by WP:CONSENSUS as showing her true DOB. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 17:02, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 11 March 2012

I would like to change the picture for her main page to one of her from the 2011 Billboard Music Awards.

Wikiblogg113 (talk) 03:25, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

 Not done You'll not only need to obtain consensus for a change of images ~ however, we'll need to see the image first, too. Thank you, -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 03:36, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj Picture

It is not a very good picture of her and she barely looks like that. Here is a much better picture. http://mypinkfriday.com/media/photos/9251/215851

98.169.33.3 (talk) 03:38, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

 Not done - That image is copyrighted, not free to use. -- MST☆R ^{(Chat Me!)} 03:42, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request - 2004 WWE release

The article makes it sound like she wasn't really active until 2007, but in 2004, with The Hood$tars she did the vocals on Victoria's entrance music, "Don't Mess With," that was released on ThemeAddict: WWE The Music, Vol. 6. There, she was credited as Nicki Maraj. This is verified by an official press release at the time of the album's release: http://top40-charts.com/news.php?nid=11223. I think this is a pretty notable event that should be added, since it was a commercial release on a Top 40-reaching album a few years before she hit it "big." — Chad1m ^Email Talk _Cont. 18:59, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 March 2012

Her birth date in this is wrong, Nicki Minaj was born in 1984 and is 27, not 29 years old. Please fix this error

108.132.1.149 (talk) 00:13, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Begoon ^talk 00:17, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Other ventures

Please may you add an Other ventures section to Nicki Minaj's. I dont see why the person who controls this page is so petty and stubborn, you should also take other consideration being that your not the only one who goes on Nicki Minaj's Wikipedia. If you such a Nicki Minaj FAN/STAN than you WOULD KNOW she has OTHER VENTURES how many references do WE need to prove. It's been all over Tv,her Twitter account, and other places. She had a MAC Lipstick in November 2010 I believe called "Pink 4 Friday" which was sold out in 2 hours. Also she has her own nails with OPI "Its MAC,OPI, and a fragrance too, appareal I'm dominating in every avenue" - From Make Me Proud with Drake. And also her Viva Glam Lipstick with Ricky Martin.And this has alot to do with Nicki Minaj this is showing her as a businesswoman. Other rappers/singers have Other venture sections on their page so obviously it does apply to them. She also is the new face of Pepsi "Pop" on Forbes.com, and

She also shot a Pepsi commercial in Argentina. There is footage on Youtube. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 03:40, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Nicki Pink 4 Friday proof > http://www.osochic.com/2010/11/mac-nicki-minaj-pink-4-friday-lipstick.html

OPI > http://www.opi.com/ < HER NAME RIGHT DOWN THERE

viva-glam . http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/nicki-minaj-and-ricky-martin-promote-mac-new-campaign-hiv-aids-awareness-latin-america_n_1282031.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 23:31, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request 3/14/12

It says in the article that Check It Out is her most successful single to date in Europe, but Starships just made it to the #3 spot in the UK, making Nicki Minaj the highest-charting female rapper on the UK charts. http://popcrush.com/nicki-minaj-u-k-record-starships/

Also, Superbass hit 4 million digital sales, making it the first song by a female rapper to reach that number. http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-march-11-2012-songs-either-way-003340950.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thankmelater18 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

The bottom of this webpage is a real mess: the 'wiki' code is actually displayed to the user!

You guys have really buggered up the bottom of this webpage! Something tells me I'm not supposed to be seeing the following:

{{Navbox |name = Young Money Entertainment |bodyclass = hlist |title = Young Money Entertainment

|group1 = Founder |list1 =

   Lil Wayne

|group2 = Artists |list2 =

   Cory Gunz
   Drake
   Gudda Gudda
   Jae Millz
   Lil Chuckee
   Lil Twist
   Mack Maine
   Nicki Minaj
   Christina Milian
   Shanell
   T-Streets
   Tyga
   AC and YE

|group3 = Former artists |list3 =

   Boo
   Curren$y
   Kidd Kidd
   Omarion
   [[AC and YE

|group4 = Studio albums |list4 =

   We Are Young Money

|group5 = Singles |list5 =

   "Every Girl"
   "BedRock"
   "Roger That"
   [gold by ac and YE
   [swag king by ac and YE

}} Chris (talk) 23:16, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Found the cause of the problem, it was on this template. Thanks, Chris.Giles! Acalamari 23:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 22 March 2012

she was abducted by aliens at age 10 and returned at age 19 to become a female rapper

KhuslenBatuur (talk) 21:46, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 22:26, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nicki has other ventures besides being a rapper — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 19:06, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

"Previous nationalities or the country of birth"...

..."should not be mentioned in the opening sentence unless they are relevant to the subject's notability" according to WP:OPENPARAGRAPH. Whoever can edit this page, please remove "Trinidadian-born" from the opening sentence. She is an American musician and became notable as such. --Garik 11 (talk) 21:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Nicki also collaborated with Madonna for another song from her album

Not just Give Me All Your Luvin' but also a track called "I Don't Give A". She revealed the track list less than a week before its released and so this information just arose now. I reckon it should be worth mentioning in this article and also since she's the only featured artist for that song not like GMAYL. Just a short sentence would be fine. Bleubeatle (talk) 07:43, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Alright looks like the protection is gone so I was able to edit this. Bleubeatle (talk) 05:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Request!

May you add other ventures section please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 18:25, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Consensus, based on prior discussion, is that her other ventures are not notable enough for a mention here. You'll need to provide reliable sources that show they are before that section will get added. —C.Fred (talk) 00:23, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

:D Ok

YES! Thank you this is all I've been asking for. Nicki got a limited edition of her own lipstick from MAC called Pink 4 Friday that went onsale for 4 Fridays starting November 26, 2010 to promote the release of her debut album Pink Friday. http://www.refinery29.com/nicki-minaj-and-mac-go-pink-on-black-friday

She received her own nail polish line, from OPI http://mypinkfriday.com/news/49901

Mattel released a one of a kind Nicki Minaj doll for charity that was auctioned on charitybuzz.com http://mypinkfriday.com/news/53381

Nicki Minaj and Ricky Martin ware cthe new face of VivaGlam Lipstic replacing Cyndi Lauper and Lady Gaga from the AIDS/HIV fundraiser. http://www.maccosmetics.com/whats_new/8360/index.tmpl?cm_mmc=google-_-ENG_ENG%7cViva%20Glam%7cProduct%7cExact%7cPC-_-Viva%20Glam%7cSPP%7cCollections%7cNicki%20Lipstick-_-nicki%20minaj%20viva%20glam

She teamed up with CASIO TRYX and helped lauch the camera. http://www.casio.com/news/content/7E6993FA-061A-488C-9F17-1AFB7D466E54/ Nokia also teamed with Nicki to promote Nokia Lumia 900. http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/04/10/nicki-minaj-promotes-lumia-900-using-a-blackberry/

Nicki is also still endorsing products for Pepsi,which she shot a commercial for in Argentina, she was initially planned to film a 7-up commercial but was replaced by Cee Lo Green as stated in her song "Come on A Cone" .http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-pepsi-to-team-with-nicki-minaj-but-not-on-pop-20120328,0,7135888.story

She is also endorsing for Adidas, which she filmed a commercial for in a secret location in New York on with fashion designer Jeremy Scott. http://rapfix.mtv.com/2012/04/12/nicki-minaj-jeremy-scott-adidas-fall-campaign/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 14:07, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Not all of the claims above are substantiated by the sources. For instance, the Chicago Tribune story says she's in some business arrangement with Pepsi, but that it won't be to endorse a new drink. It mentions nothing about Argentina, 7-Up, Green, or the song. —C.Fred (talk) 18:05, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

In her song Come on A Cone she explained all of the endorsment with Pepsi, so can the other stuff I put in be put into an other ventures section for Nicki Minaj until I prove the Pepsi thing right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 22:01, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

No. Two sentences—one about Pepsi, one about the deal with adidas—aren't enough to warrant a section. —C.Fred (talk) 22:14, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

What? This is like a whole paragraph. The Pink 4 Friday lipstick/The VivaGlam/ The Nokia one/Casio/OPI nails... and other stuff. Look at the influences section its not even 3 sentences and its there. So can you please add it, why wouldn't you want people to know more about Nicki Minaj since you control her page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 23:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

If the lipstick, nails, etc. were significant enough to be covered in the article, there should be independent reliable sources to cite, not just Minaj's or the company's website. —C.Fred (talk) 23:59, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Ok thats just YOUR opinion, your clearly abusing your power, why can't you simply add the Other ventures section and call it a day, I don't see what the big deal is. If you are a TRUE Nicki Minaj fan you would be taking all the things people have said into consideration. I showed you my sources so what else do you want ? What would be more reliable than Nicki Minaj's very own website giving you the source ? It's all set in stone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 03:45, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

And I have different links not just from mypinkfriday.com So how many links do I have to find now? If you can't even take the very own person's website that have RELIABLE SOURCES, then what else do you need ? Minaj can't lie about what she has done she's in the public eye. So can you please stop being so petty, and I'm trying to say thhis very nicely, you should be happy that there are concerned fans wanting the best for their artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 03:51, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Please review WP:Self-published sources. I am not suggesting that she would lie, but there is always the incentive to overstate what one has done (or understate one's age). That's why Wikipedia prefers (and in some cases insists on) secondary sources to support statements in articles—if it's been reported in a newspaper or magazine, then it's been reviewed by editors before it was printed, so we place more reliance on that source than one written by the subject's press agent or the subject herself. That has nothing to do with how much I like Minaj and everything to do with Wikipedia policies like WP:Verifiability.

That said, I'm going to alert Bwilkins (talk · contribs) to this discussion. Since he had participated in the prior discussions, I'll see if the sources change his perspective on the situation, or if he still feels that there should not be a section on other ventures. —C.Fred (talk) 12:31, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

The majority of celebrity endorsements are not notable, whatsoever. Indeed, in most cases, there's no direct link between the celebrity and the product other than being paid to lend one's face to it. For example, Michael Jackson's is not notable for having done a Pepsi commercial - it's only notable because his hair caught fire while filming it. Wikipedia's goal is not to promote the various products/endeavours/endorsements that someone is involved it, and it adds undue weight to those products.

There needs to be zero argument about using the person's own website as a source is not considered to be a reliable source - it's a core policy on Wikipedia.

This is also not a fan page - it's an encyclopedia entry. The number of blocks that have been handed out due to extensive WP:FANCRUFT is a pretty long list. Cruft and promotion do not belong; period. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:54, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

It doesnt matter if this a fan page or encylcopedia, people come on Wikipedia to learn about what people have done, Nicki Minaj is more than just a girl from Queens who put out two albums, shes a businesswoman, and if other ventures don't matter than why do I see Lady GaGa,Rihanna, Jay-Z. and other musicians with other ventures sections ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 22:43, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

Other stuff exists; "Rihanna has an other ventures section" is not a valid reason for Minaj to have one. That said, Gaga has a foundation and Jay-Z owns several businesses; those activities are significant enough in scope to warrant coverage, and that's why those articles have sections on them. The section on Rihanna's other activities is extensively sourced. Accordingly, consensus there is that the activities are significant enough to be covered. However, there is no clear consensus to include a similar section in Minaj's article. —C.Fred (talk) 00:39, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Well can you add something similar to other ventures since you object everything anyone has to say? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 19:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

New Image

There's a new image of Nicki Minaj:

I think you could replace the picture in infobox with that picture. The old picture is not clear and this picture is Clear and bigger. --37.107.135.117 (talk) 14:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Other ventures

YOU NEED TO ADD A OTHER VENTURES TO HER ARTICLE BECAUSE SHE HAS HAD THE Pink 4 FRIDAY LIPSTICK FROM MAC. and her NEW OPI NAIL COLLECTION AND IF YOU DONT NEED ANY REFERENCES BECUASE ITS ALL OVER THE NEWS. I hate how whoever did her article doesnt add more information her when she is just as important as Lady GaGa and Rihanna. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.88.13.255 (talk) 01:32, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Um, all over the news or not, references are always required (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:22, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Lol, judging by the shouting and the terrible grammar you must be a rap fan. Use of CAPS and not signing your posts is considered rude and to be 'dissin da wiki'.1812ahill (talk) 15:33, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

"Yo yo yo, he just keepin' it real!" Yeah..real DUMB --RThompson82 (talk) 01:41, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 April 2012

Nicki Minaj was born in 1984, not 1982. Please correct this. 108.132.1.149 (talk) 18:15, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Celestra (talk) 18:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

http://www.biography.com/people/nicki-minaj-579574 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.84.195.200 (talk) 05:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Not done: The current source, a police report, disagrees and seems more reliable. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 16:09, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Leaving Twitter...and music?

http://deadfreaks.com/post/21515464914/nicki-minaj-considering-to-quit-the-music-industry ??? --RThompson82 (talk) 03:57, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Major BLP concern

I have a major WP:BLP issue. While using a Dallas Police Complaint form as a source is I guess OK, I'm concerned that the article presents no context for said report. If we're going to cite a legal matter, then we need to include a reference in the article with a link to a media report. Otherwise I think it violates BLP. Was she cleared? Found guilty? Is it still before the courts. This must be included otherwise I don't think we can use that source. 70.72.223.215 (talk)

• Report and some discussion is at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Nicki_Minaj - Youreallycan 14:31, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 5 May 2012

Here I have a new picture of her and I hope you can use it. It's a nicer and more clear picture of her. I'm pretty sure it doesn't have copyright on it either.

98.169.33.3 (talk) 02:58, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Image already in the article. --MuZemike 19:43, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

pepsi-other ventures ! REQUEST

Nicki's Pepsi commercial — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 11:06, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 5 May 2012

why is hip hop not listed under her genres? she's is primarily known for being a rapper. you need to add hip hop on her genres. also she does r&b as well. some sources include: http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Beam_Me_Up_Scotty_(mixtape) http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Pink_Fridaythis these links are from her album and mixtape they both clearly list her genres as having primarily hip and r&b and don't say "not done" because I made a clear request and listed two sources. 98.169.33.3 (talk) 02:42, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia articles cannot be used as sources for other Wikipedia articles. Also, since Miss Minaj is a living person, very high standards of referencing for assertions about her apply. If published reliable sources state that she is a hip hop artist, then of course that information can be added.

What I think you might be referring to is the appearance of her article as of 22:15 4 May 2012. Her musical genre was changed from hip hop to "Euro pop" with this edit. Since Europop is not mentioned in the article and Hip Hop is, I have changed the genre back to its previous appearance which included "hip hop". Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 03:12, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add random genres to the infobox. Mozart and Nicki Minaj are not hiphoppers. Arcandam (talk) 12:10, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 May 2012

Minaj also became popular by having a secret sexual affair on rapper Safaree Samuels with a young female called Rhianon Stockley-Hughes from the United Kingom. This was said to have happened on 8th March 2009. After the rumors came out Nicki was then rumored to be bisexual. Nicki was also she was linked to this by stating some raunchy lyrics in her songs referring to girls. Minaj and 'Rhi' were then later seen leaving a hotel in Miami holding hands as they waited for there ride home. Xlil rhix (talk) 12:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

 Not done WP:GOSSIP Arcandam (talk) 12:06, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

edit request: please add diacritic marks to the romanization of her tattoo

The more correct romanization of her tattoo with diacritic marks is

shàngdì yǔ nǐ cháng zài

You can easily verify this by clicking on each of the Chinese characters listed and looking for the accented pronunciation under "pinyin". Technically the marks are important to proper reading of the tattoo especially for learners of Mandarin.

69.181.223.115 (talk) 02:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC) (nielsbot, username pending)

Done --GouramiWatcher ^(Gulp) 01:57, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST

There is an Other Ventures section required by demand — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 01:46, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —C.Fred (talk) 01:53, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

heres the ones for Pepsi http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1684612/nicki-minaj-pepsi-ad.jhtml http://fashion.elle.com/culture/2012/05/07/nicki-minajs-pepsi-commercial-drops/

Her Barbie Doll. http://www.billboard.com/news/nicki-minaj-barbie-doll-a-very-major-moment-1005603722.story#/news/nicki-minaj-barbie-doll-a-very-major-moment-1005603722.story http://www.tmz.com/2011/12/02/nicki-minaj-katy-perry-barbie-doll/

Her MAC Endorsements. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/nicki-minaj-and-ricky-martin-promote-mac-new-campaign-hiv-aids-awareness-latin-america_n_1282031.html

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/blogs/thread-count/fashion-week-nicki-minaj-and-ricky-martin-celebrate-with-mac-20120216 http://www.temptalia.com/mac-nicki-minaj-pink-friday-lipstick http://news.instyle.com/2010/11/23/nicki-minajs-limited-edition-mac-lipstick-pink-4-friday/

CASIO http://celebrity-gossip.net/nicki-minaj/nicki-minajs-tryx-camera-launch-lady-495823

http://sofurious.com/2011/04/08/nicki-minaj-launches-casio-tryx-camera-in-nyc/

Adidas http://rapfix.mtv.com/2012/04/12/nicki-minaj-jeremy-scott-adidas-fall-campaign/ http://www.vibe.com/photo-gallery/nicki-minaj-shoots-jeremy-scott-x-adidas-commercial-brooklyn

ALL INDEPENDENT RELIABLE SOURCES — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Um, no ... massive fail as WP:RS for some of those. Besides, the page should NOT be an advertisement for the products in question (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:20, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow.. what figures, its always something wrong. So petty. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 11:22, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The Barbie doll might have been the one of these worth mentioning, if it had gone into regular mass production. That would be a sign that the toy industry was acknowledging her achievements. However, it's a special customized doll, and only one will be made. Custom Barbies don't quite reach the same level, so on the whole, I don't think the doll warrants a mention in the article. —C.Fred (talk) 12:38, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to change my edits: I was trying this morning to capture the essence of the desired changes without being wholly promotional (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:39, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I work through my watchlist chronologically, so I saw the discussion before I saw the edits to the article. There is now a "Products and endorsements" section in the article. It's a one-paragraph section, but that's the level of detail that's called for at this point in her career. I have edited it some—I mentioned MAC by name in the article, but it made sense to structure the section with a parallel list, so it flowed better with the company name instead of "a cosmetics company." I think extreme caution needs to be taken before adding to the section, but I think including it helps the article overall. —C.Fred (talk) 12:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you C.Fred for at least complying. This is all I have been trying to do for the article this whole time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 28 May 2012‎ (UTC)

You did, of course, look at all of the editors who made additions to the page before this statement, or the one below, right? I like the edit summary from this one myself. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:04, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST to Other Ventures

May you please add the other endorsements/products listed above this . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 11:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

•  Not done I do not see where you have obtained WP:CONSENSUS to add those. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Its pretty obvious that you aren't an advocate of Minaj. As I can tell by how negligent you are about what's she has actually endorsed. It's almost like you don't want her to have any accomplishments, you must be a hater. There is sufficent enough of evidence, and reliable sources,or whatever else you try to impede for Nicki's article to have notable information on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk • contribs) 11:38, 27 May 2012‎ (UTC)

I'm a big advocate of following the policies of Wikipedia. It is NOT the intent of an encyclopedia to provide multiple opportunities to WP:PROMOTE companies who pay her to hock their wares. Becoming a mouthpiece for a company is not a sign that someone "has become successful" - it's a sign that someone is using your success to further build their own - a form of slavery. Most Trini's I know are more than acutely aware of indentured servitude, and such servitude by Minaj merely detracts from her "independent" nature. Although I understand that one needs to make money while there's money to be made, we are not using Minaj's article to sell Pepsi or makeup. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 11:50, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Whoa, it has become clear that you obviously have a problem with the Trinidian race. So that's the reason behind all your mischeif as we can all see. I think that if her race is really bothering that much that you shouldn't be on her page. (Personal attack removed) It's 2012 I thought racism would have died down, especially over the Internet where we are all one. I think that the only people who should have a authority over someone's Wikipedia page is someone who is up-to-date,consistent,devoted and also somewhat fond of that person. Not someone who is late on information, and also won't take others advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 03:15, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

"you obviously have a problem with the Trinidian race" - There's not such thing as "Trinidian". As to whether there's such a thing as a "Trinidadian race" - well, I suspect that Black Stalin might agree with the idea ("one race, the Caribbean man, from the same place...who make the same trip...on the same ship"), a literal reading of his words proved quite offensive to many Trinidadians. Please see the Trinidad and Tobago article for a better understanding of the topic. And as far as the attitude of Wikipedia editors to Trinidadian people, I believe that there are few editors who are more favourably inclined to we Trinidadians than BWilkins. Guettarda (talk) 06:23, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 May 2012

I would like to change the picture.

IAdoreRoman (talk) 18:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Do you have another image in mind? Keep in mind our requirement that images be available under an appropriate free license. Guettarda (talk) 18:13, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah new pic would be better, it doesn't do her justice IMHO --HumusTheCowboy (talk) 01:35, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 May 2012

I suggest you guys use this photo http://icecreamconvos.com/pics-nicki-minaj-ricky-martin-attend-mac-viva-glam-party/

IAdoreRoman (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

 Not done the linked images are credited to Getty Images and lacks any indication that they are available under a Wikipedia-compatible free-use license. Please see Wikipedia:Image use policy. Guettarda (talk) 18:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

EDIT REQUEST

Can she get a new pic preferably this one http://allnicki.com/post/23919206522/nicki-minaj-interview-in-japan-2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.223.193.157 (talk) 23:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Doubtful. Digging around a little, I find that image with a ModelPress (mdpr.jp) watermark on it, which means it's probably all-rights-reserved. —C.Fred (talk) 00:34, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

http://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ http://www.boston.com/ae/music/blog/2012/06/nicki_minaj_fun.html http://perezhilton.com/category/nicki-minaj http://nicki-minaj.org/ http://www.facebook.com/nickiminajJessie Maraj (talk) 22:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

References

Her Son

While in her "teen" years, young Nicki gave birth to a healthy, beautiful boy. Though she loved him she did not want to be a teen mom, in some of her songs she expresses her feelings as in one of her songs called "Fly" she says "Trying to forgive you for abandoning me". since she did no want to be a teen mom she put him up for adoption and is now 12 years old and lives in Stillwater, Oklahoma. He was born September 13th, 1999. Jessie Maraj (talk) 22:11, 5 June 2012 (UTC) http://www.boston.com/ae/music/blog/2012/06/nicki_minaj_fun.html, http://twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessie Maraj (talk • contribs) 21:53, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Show some reliable sources, or else it's invalid. People claim to be my kids all the time :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 22:00, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Add to products and endorsements

http://www.billboard.com/news/nicki-minaj-launching-perfume-this-fall-1006792952.story#/news/nicki-minaj-launching-perfume-this-fall-1006792952.story Nicki has a perfume coming this fall.--1flyguyrob (talk) 17:02, 22 June 2012 (UTC)ThugLife

http://community.nasdaq.com/News/2012-06/elizabeth-arden-buys-2-give-back-brands-analyst-blog.aspx?storyid=148219 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CDFC:19D0:D444:5EE6:9E7F:C400 (talk) 23:51, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that anyone can edit. All you have to do is wait until you're autoconfirmed and you can add sourced information to semi-protected articles like Nicki Minaj yourself. Cheers, Shearonink (talk) 01:44, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Or, in the case of the anonymous editor above, to create an account and then have the account become autoconfirmed. —C.Fred (talk) 01:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Sorry Fred, I didn't realize that the 2602(etc...) was an IP-address, my mistake. Sorry, Shearonink (talk) 02:02, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Associated acts

I still don't think that David Guetta and Rick Ross meet the definition of "associated acts" as defined by Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts. Both Guetta and Ross have featured/been featured by Nicki Minaj a couple of times for some songs, but that normally doesn't make someone an associated act (besides, Guetta features people all the time, so by that definition everyone is an associated act of him); in addition, while Guetta has helped in the production of Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded, that too doesn't make someone an associated act. If there is something I've missed and they do meet the criteria, then that's fine, but at the moment I don't think they do, though I'm not going to revert over it. Thanks. Acalamari 08:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Done I agree if we add Guetta and Ross then we would have to name all the artist she has collaborated with more than once on a feature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1flyguyrob (talk • contribs) 03:20, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

I agree with your sentiments about David Guetta in the sense that because so many artists have featured on his songs it would overload his and other infoboxes. However, the criteria for being an associated act includes "other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions". With Ross having collaborated with Minaj on 6 songs, Drake 5 songs and Lil Wayne 9 songs, I think these artists meet this criteria substantially. --Jennie | ☎ 16:27, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

I was not aware they had all collaborated with Minaj that many times, it's worth including them then. I'm glad we agree on David Guetta, though. :) Acalamari 17:54, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

I Think for Associated acts put Eminem for one of them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raplover505 (talk • contribs) 00:53, 5 August 2012‎ (UTC)

 Not done - Eminem has only collaborated with Minaj once. Unfortunately, the guidelines for when to include an associated act (Template:Infobox musical artist#associated acts) say not to include one-off collaborations. Jennie | ☎ 16:04, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 26 July 2012

In the first paragraph of the section Early Life, reference to the song “I’m the Best”, should be in quotation marks.

208.125.254.26 (talk) 17:20, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Done Good call! Floating Boat A boat that can float! 17:31, 26 July 2012 (UTC)

Using 'Maraj' in the early article sections.

Hello,

I've decided to bring over a discussion me and Steel1943 have been having on their talk page (here) concerning whether to use "Maraj" in the early sections and then use Minaj later on, or just use "Minaj" all the way through. WP:LASTNAME states: "For people well known by one-word names, nicknames or pseudonyms, but who often also use their legal names professionally (e.g. musician/actors Beyoncé Knowles, André Benjamin, Jennifer Lopez; doctor/broadcaster Dr. Drew Pinsky), use the legal surname". As Minaj does not use her legal name profesionally, I don't think "Maraj" should be used as the surname in the early sections of the article.

The guideline also states: "People who are best known by a pseudonym should be subsequently referred to by their pseudonymous surnames", as found on other recording artists' articles like Lady Gaga, despite having a legal name (Stefani Germanotta), the pseudonym or professional name (Gaga) is used throughout the article - including 'Early life'. I think we should keep Minaj throughout like previous and for consistency. Thoughts from other editors? :) Jennie | ☎ 09:39, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I agree I think Minaj should be used throughout the career beginnings paragraph. If she currently refers to hereself as Minaj, than that is what it should be under. 1flyguyrob | User talk:1flyguyrob 11:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

I am opposed to this for a very specific reason: the use of her pseudonym "Nicki Minaj" is not mentioned until the end of the first "Career" paragraph. Per WP:LASTNAME, the very first sentence in the section starts off with "After the initial mention of any name...". With that being said, the mention of her name changing to "Nicki Minaj" doesn't happen until the end of the section, meaning all mentions of her name prior to that point should be "Maraj." Mentioning the name "Minaj" in regards to points in her career before she was known as "Minaj" will cause confusion to the reader, making the reader assume that she was known as "Minaj" when she was in Hood$tars. If anyone disagrees with what I am stating, I honestly feel like this discussion needs to be moved to MOS:BIO. This issue we are discussing is more of an issue with the way WP:LASTNAME is written. Thank you. Steel1943 (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

When the WP:LASTNAME guideline states "After the initial mention of any name, the person should be referred to by surname only", this just refers to the practice of using a surname throughout an article and not calling them by the first name. It doesn't mean that you should necessarily use the first surname mentioned throughout. As demonstrated by the Lady Gaga article, the surname 'Gaga' is still used even when she hadn't adopted this pseudonym - the fact that "Minaj" adopted this later in life has no bearing on whether we shouldn't use it or not. It can be explained in narrative to the reader when she adopted this name and the fact she didn't use it in Hood$tars. If anything, using two surnames is more confusing to the reader and I don't think is present on many (or even any) articles on Wikipedia. I think we should revert it back to how it was, if you want to pursue this further we could WP:RFC? Jennie | ☎ 16:49, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Per the sentence "After the initial mention of any name, the person should be referred to by surname only", one could understand that as the way I do; a surname should not be used in an article until the moment in the article when "official" renaming of the person happens. To state, in this instance, that a person named "Nicki Minaj" was part of Hood$tars would be inaccurate (since, per the article, she didn't possess the name "Nicki Minaj" until after her involvement with that group.) I'm not stating that the first surname mentioned should be used throughout the article, as that would be inaccurate in biographies when a person changes their name one or more times.. Also, What I am stating is that the WP:LASTNAME section of MOS:BIO is not clear in regards to the issue and topic which we are debating. As I still think that WP:LASTNAME isn't clear in a precedent regarding this topic, and your statement is a matter of opinion (as well as mine), I do concur that there needs to be WP:RFC. However, since the article that I'm questioning is not Nicki Minaj, but rather Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Biographies, I'm moving this conversation over there (specifically here), and I'm going to tag the conversation with the WP:RFC template. (I'm not disputing Nicki Minaj; I'm disputing WP:LASTNAME.) Thank you. Steel1943 (talk) 00:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I've reverted your edits until a consensus for change is reached (as per WP:Reverting). Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 18:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Images

Many of the images here are copyvio from other websites like the Associated Press and MTV though I doubt the uploader knew anything about it. I'm removing those images now. I do have connections to some Young Money employees however that I could probably convince them to release some totally free images. Let me see what I can do. Thanks Secret ^account 03:54, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

That would be amazing please let me know ASAP. Thank you. 1flyguyrob 4:08, 7 Augut 2012 (UTC)

Twitch?

what's with the blinking?! is there some underlying tic there, or 100% an "act"?

either way, should be the FIRST THING mentioned under image! aside from the wigs and outfits, it is the number one thing associated with her.

heck, she even uses "blink" in her tweets now! 66.105.218.22 (talk) 20:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

 Not done - I'm not sure what the excessive blinking seen first in the Super Bass video and then in the video to Stupid Hoe means. I agree that it seems to be associated with her, but I can't find a single source on it. It's significance isn't mentioned anywhere. For now, I can't do anything without a source. If you find something on the internet, post it here and I'll see if I can put it in (the source has to be reliable, see here). Jennie | ☎ 22:19, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

i'll look around, but in the meantime how about just a throwaway comment that her act "involves" heavy blinking? like in that line about being "animated" -- animated could mean a lot of things; in her case it just HAPPENS to primarily mean blinking.

leave the "significance" of it out until a source is found. 66.105.218.14 (talk) 10:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Barbz?

her fans are supposedly called "Barbz". i assume this comes from the (Harajuku) Barbie image. should be in the article! 66.105.218.22 (talk) 20:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)\

 Done - I cannot believe the Barbz aren't mentioned in this article! I've added that, as well as information about her Twitter use in the "Public Image" section. Jennie | ☎ 16:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

she actually attributes it to her "Pink Barbie" image, fwiw.

where Harajuku ends and Pink begins, I don't know, but perhaps it would be better to use "Pink" in the article. 66.105.218.14 (talk) 10:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Birthdate

In her E! TV special, it said her birthdate is December 8, 1984. Here's the link from www.mypinkfriday.com. Please change ASAP. Jovannimay (talk) 18:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Reframing the question: is E! a sufficiently reliable source that we'll go with their reporting on her date of birth? —C.Fred (talk) 18:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I think E! meets the criteria of being a "well-established news outlet" and that information certainly isn't opinion content. Additionally, Minaj's official website endorses the source by linking to it. Is there a problem with sourcing a video though - does it meet WP:RS? I know transcripts are generally preferred... Jennie | ☎ 21:51, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

 Not done - Updated - I was watching the E! documentary, and when Minaj is talking about her 5th grade teacher, they show clips of them together in November 1993. Knowing nothing about the American-grade system, I Googled and you are 10/11 in the 5th grade and as this was November, Minaj was 10 years old and would turn 11 the next month. 11 years old in December 1993 = 1993 - 11 = 1982. There are claims Minaj lied about her age, and as stated by the footnotes, the only reliable source is the one from the Police department. A lot of evidence points to her real birthdate being 1982 and unless we can find a reliable source for it being otherwise, we can't change it. Jennie | ☎ 12:55, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

References

We need images!

This is just a general message to anybody who may be passing by this article and is looking for ways to help. WP:FLICKR is probably the most common source for images (especially images of BLP's), but the Nicki Minaj images (with Creative-Commons "free" license) are few in number, of poor-quality and a bit old. We would really like to include images that are relevant to the sections of the article. Most prominently, the 2011 - present: Roman Reloaded section has none, and I know 1flyguyrob has tried hard to find some in this area, but has been met with copyvio restrictions (something I have also). It would be welcomed if anyone could upload and add some good-quality images to this article, maybe you have some from her concerts or tours on a camera/computer or just know where some are around the internet - anything would be appreciated really! I've recently nominated this article for GA status and relevant, free-use images form part of the criteria and would be useful.

I think the following sections could do with some decorating:

• 1.5 2011–present: Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded
• 2.2 Alter egos
• 3.1 Products and endorsement
• 4 Personal life

Thanks! :) Jennie | ☎ 18:19, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

GOOD ARTICLE :D

Good Article

Hello All! I just GOOD Article this!

Please review and keep making changes or I will remove the Good Article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deunick (talk • contribs) 22:28, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Nicki Minaj/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Pyrotec (talk) 06:54, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I will review. Pyrotec (talk) 06:54, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Initial comments

I've had a quick look at the body of the article, but I've ignored the WP:Lead at this stage and I've not checked any of the references, on this basis the article appears to be at or about GA-level. I'm now going to work my way through the article, starting at Early life working my way to the end and then going back to do the Lead. This may take or day or so. Pyrotec (talk) 20:50, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

• Early life -

• This looks OK, but I would like to make a comment about Note 1. It currently states: ".... The most definitive source, however, is the official Dallas Police Report from July 2011 which states her birthdate is 12/08/1982". Well the ref (ref 1) shows a redacted copy of part of the Dallas Police Report; and I assume that Nicki Minaj stated her DOB, but it might not have been checked (at that stage/if at all). I believe that all that can be claimed is (in my words, its not compulsory to use them) ... The most reliable source, however, is a redacted copy of the official Dallas Police Report from July 2011 which states her birthdate is 12/08/1982". (There is more than one use of the word redacted - I'm refering to the "hiding" of some information by printing a block of black ink over that information).

Waiting for someone more intimate with this article to make this decision.--Thevampireashlee (talk) 10:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done - Went ahead and made the changes anyway. Yolo. lol. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 10:31, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Great. Thanks. Pyrotec (talk) 11:11, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

• Music career -
  • 2004–2007: Career beginnings -

• There is an overlap/repeat of information given in the previous section. Early life has: ... Nicki had a passion to become an actress, but failed at attempts to pursue her career due to the lack of roles she received, and agents. In 2001, she was cast in the off-Broadway play, "In Case You Forget".[19] After her acting career failed to take off, Minaj worked at Red Lobster in the Bronx at the age of 19 as a waitress and purchased her first vehicle, a BMW.[20] Other jobs Minaj held were administrative assistant, customer service, an an office manager position at an unknown business located on Wall Street.[21][22] and this subsection starts off: Minaj was fired from Red Lobster because of her discourteousness to other customers. She had been fired from at least fifteen jobs for similar antics.[23]. After, Minaj rapped in a foursome ....

 Done - --Thevampireashlee (talk) 10:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Great. Thanks. Pyrotec (talk) 11:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

• A decision aught to be made about what is Early life and what is music Career, and the information placed in the relevant section/subsection.

• I'm not sure, but this does not appear to be a sentence: After, Minaj rapped in a foursome group called "Hoodstars" (stylized Hood$tars or H.O.O.D.S.T.A.R.S), which consisted of group members Scaff Beezy, Lou$tar, and 7even Up.[24]. It could mean: After trying other work/jobs <talk your pick>, Minaj rapped in a foursome group called "Hoodstars" ..... This statement should be the start of this paragraph, as everything else in the paragraph follows on from this - its all about rapping/music (and change of "stage name").

 Done - --Thevampireashlee (talk) 10:28, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Great. Thanks. Pyrotec (talk) 11:13, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

• • 2007–09: Mixtapes and Young Money & 2010–11: Pink Friday -

• These two subsections look OK.

• • 2011–present: Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded -

• The final part of the final sentence in the fourth paragraph: Dates have been rescheduled and tickets can be found on LiveNation and Ticketmaster.[67] reads like WP:SPAM#External link spamming. I have no problem with the citation being used to confirm the rescheduled dates, but it cannot be used to promote ticket sales. Pyrotec (talk) 11:23, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done It now reads → "Dates have since been rescheduled." Jennie | ☎ 13:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Great. Thanks. Pyrotec (talk) 19:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

• Otherwise OK.

• Artistry -

...Stopping for now. To be continued later. Pyrotec (talk) 11:43, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

• As the article was changed on 20 August 2012 by this series of edits, I'll re-review the article from the beginning of Life and career.

• Life and career -
  • 1982–2002: Early life -

• The first sentence of the first paragraph states: Onika Tanya Maraj was born December 8, 1982, yet Note 1 states that Minaj's birthyear has been reported in various media outlets as being 1984. As this is a biography of a living person (see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons), and there is uncertainly when she was born a WP:Reliable source, should be provided to support this claim. Note: a redacted copy of a "crime report" published on web page does not constitute a reliable source.

 Done Probably the most talked about thing on the Talk-page and it's frequency of discussion caused me to put up a notice about any future requests to edit it, although I can understand the confusion. I think that Minaj may have lied in the early part of her career (and this has spread across the internet) as she allegedly claimed that she was born in 1984 rather than 1982. I tried to find a source when preparing the article for GA review but I found a lot of conflicting views. I am pretty certain that she is born in 1982, and have explained this in an edit request (Talk:Nicki Minaj#Birthdate)), the problem was finding a WP:RS that supported this. I've now removed the Dallas Police Report and replaced it with a source from MTV, which describes Minaj celebrating her 29th birthday in 2011. Jennie | ☎ 20:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that the article is dated Wednesday, 14 December 2011 and all it states is that "Nicki Minaj received a special treat for her 29th birthday, as Madonna and M.I.A. celebrated her big day on the set of their new music video ....", so she was probably born in December 1982. Pyrotec (talk) 10:25, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. Do you think it might be worth replacing the lead and first sentence with Onika Tanya Maraj (born December 8, 1982 or 1984), better known as Nicki Minaj? There is just no reliable way of proving either way. Although I said I was sure about it being 1982, I was searching around and in an interview last year, an interviewer suggested her age being 26 and she didn't bother to correct her. I think things might become more clear in December, as news outlets/fans may go ahead and wish her a Happy 30th (a milestone) - her reaction may be helpful. But, for now? Jennie | ☎ 11:47, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

That would be OK. I was quite happy with the Note 1 that was present back here. The problem was the later edits whcih stated, without any reliable sources to back it up, that she was born on a certain date. I should point out, I have no personal preference between the two years and if there is no definitive answer I'd rather see a note saying that there is a difference of opinion in the various citations. Pyrotec (talk) 15:34, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

• • 2010–11: Pink Friday and mainstream success -

• This subsection title lacks neutrality, and appears to be non-compliant with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view.
• The first sentence of the final paragraph appears to be non-compliant with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. It states: "Minaj gained major success with the release of her single "Super Bass", ever since popular teen idols Selena Gomez and Taylor Swift showed their love of the song. Minaj and Swift performed the song on her Fearless Tour". It should be edited to comply with Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, or removed.

• The citation given for this is a raw web link, which appears to be a blog. A Blog site is not regarded as a WP:Reliable Source and as a raw web link, it is not properly cited.

 Done changed the wording and source. Jennie | ☎ 20:20, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done removed "mainstream success" from the sub-header on the grounds of WP:NPOV and WP:BLP. The source regarding her writing two books has been replaced with one from Capital FM. I believe that's the last edit we needed to fix from this new batch. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 23:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

At this point, as the latest edits appear to lack neutrality and possibly are non-compliant with Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, I'm putting the review On Hold. Pyrotec (talk) 19:47, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

• • 2012–present: New projects and American Idol -

• Looks OK.

• Artistry -
  • Public image -

• The second paragraph has two {{unreliable source?}} flags.

 Comment: - 93 is a personal blog and 94 is a Nicki Minaj fan site. I looked up and down for a reliable source and fell short. We may need to remove these two sentences altogether. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 14:06, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Think I'll remove this, I couldn't find any sources either, if one comes along, I'll re-add it. I'm sure someone will bring it up on the talk page in the future. Jennie | ☎ 19:08, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

 Comment: - I found one mention of it, but it's obscure. Check the 37th image in the gallery on this MSNBC article. [1] --Thevampireashlee (talk) 00:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

• • Alter egos, Rapping technique & Influences -

Generally OK, but ref 129 (http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1691906/nicki-minaj-foxy-brown-influence.jhtml) is a raw web link.

 Done #129 is now fully cited. Jennie | ☎ 11:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

• Other ventures -
  • Products and endorsements -

• Looks OK.

• Personal life -

• Its not clear what ref 152 is: possibly "Maraj, Onika, Tyler Williams, Nikhil Seetharam, Aubrey Graham, and Jay Jenkins, Jones, Nasir. Champion" are authors. 2012. N.p.: Is "Young Money, Cash Money" the title (in which case its usually in italics) and "Universal Republic" the publisher? Note: 2012 appears twice.

 Done Someone has listed the writers/producers of the track "Champion" as a source. I've provided two RS and more text. Jennie | ☎ 13:28, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, the replacement Ref 152 and the new Ref 153 are much clearer than one old 152. Pyrotec (talk) 15:59, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

• • Feud with Lil' Kim -

• Refs 166 & 167 are the same. Why not use ref 166 twice?

 Done Changed so there is now one ref. Jennie | ☎ 11:38, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

...Stopping for now. To be continued later. Pyrotec (talk) 11:21, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

It also appears again at ref 171.

 Done corrected also. Jennie | ☎ 18:51, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

• WP:Lead -

• Its a possibly a bit "thin" for an article of this length, but it's just about acceptable.
• It's also got that definitive DOB - (born December 8, 1982) and I don't think there is a WP:RS for that at present.
• Note: the Infobox is also quoting the same date using, as a citation, that redacted police report in the TMZ.

 Done I've sourced both dates of birth reliably. I've opened a discussion on the talk page amongst the other editors to decide to either provide both years or keep either; I'm guessing the we'll come to a decision after the GA nomination process and so when one is made, it will either remain the same or I will remove the other source. Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 19:08, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Pyrotec (talk) 15:59, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Overall summary

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality:

   B. MoS compliance for lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists:

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources:

   B. Citation of reliable sources where necessary:

   Well referenced

   C. No original research:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

5. Is it stable?

   No edit wars, etc:

6. Does it contain images to illustrate the topic?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   Nine images, two of which are non-free and seven free.

   B. Images are provided where possible and appropriate, with suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

I'm please to be able to award this article GA-status. Thanks to all those editors with to persistence to get this article through numerous "false starts" and hurdles. Well done. Pyrotec (talk) 08:18, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Infobox image

I noticed a debate going on about the image that is used in the infobox. While this image is more recent, in this image you can more clearly see her face, which is a requirement in an infobox image. The person is question must be easily recognizable. Thanks, Statυs (talk) 20:28, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I am agreeing with you on this! I reviewed this in my Good Article Review.Deunick (talk) 23:03, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't think people would struggle to recognise her from that image, and I'm not quite sure where the requirements for Infobox images are. If you want to use the other the image then feel free to do so! I quite like both, I just thought that it would probably more relevant to show her "in action". :) Jennie | ☎ 01:00, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

The cotton ball one is superior, I think, but we could still use the bleach blonde photo elsewhere in the article. Slightly off-topic, but I've wanted to put a sound clip into this article for weeks now. I struggled to find an appropriate one, settling for a clip from "Roman Holiday". The song has so much cursing, I had to be careful with editing (since I couldn't find a clean version of the song anywhere). Let me know what you think. :) --Thevampireashlee (talk) 06:40, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay. I swapped the infobox image back to the cotton ball one. Seems like we all agree this photo is best. I moved the previous infobox image down to the article. I moved some of the other images around and removed the music video screen shot, since it was non-free and seemed slightly out of place. I wish we had a free-licensed image of her from 2007-08, but we've got to work with what we have. I found another image on Flickr, doctored it up as best I could, and added it in. Cleaned up some of the bare URL refs and added a few bells and whistles here and there. I think it's finally ready. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 08:41, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

feminist section

I can remove that I said she was a femnist and just put her support of women, you dont have to remove the ENTIRE section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1flyguyrob (talk • contribs) 20:59, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Can you please sign your comments? And this (with or without the feminist claims) would still fall under original research. Unless there are published sources that state that Minaj feels so strongly about the image/portrayal of women then I think the Image section covers this adequately. Jennie | ☎ 21:02, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Renaming the section "Female Empowerement" is still misleading and is original research. Where do sources support that she has empowered females? Furthermore, "Jezebel" [#102] is not a reliable source to support her views on women and neither is "Contact Music" [#105]. This section comprises of quotes that point to an view that is unsupported by published sources. Jennie | ☎ 21:21, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Female empowerment is not misleading, and I have provided reliable sources to this section, and the quotes will stress Minaj's thoughts on this issue and the publiced sources also supported her views on female empowerment 1flyguyrob —Preceding undated comment added 21:34, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

None of the sources provided even use the word "feminist". And the only source used to back up that claim was this, which is a 100 character blurb. Definitely not sufficient enough to make such a slanderous statement. I've removed it. Also, the quote was added, apparently, from her MTV document, but the documentary was not cited or linked to. I could not find a free version of it, and so I have removed that entirely. I think we should merge the "female empowerment" section into "public image", since the bulk of the section was completely unreliable and original research. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:27, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, I think It would fit with the other comment about women. Jennie | ☎ 22:29, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Oops. I made the changes before reading your comment. Everything's been set straight now. Sadly, I think we're going to have to wait a while longer before this can be promoted to Good, due to the article's current instability. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:39, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

That's fine! It may have to be delayed, although this hasn't happened (I think at all) on this article before. Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 22:43, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Nicholas Telemaque

I can't believe this article does not shed any light on the gunning down of her cousin last year. Can someone do the research, type it up, then add it to the article please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.214.63 (talk) 18:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done You can find Nicholas mentioned already in the Personal life section. Jennie | ☎ 18:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)  Question: Are you looking for specific information about Nicholas? The section could do with some expanding. You are welcome to type something up here and myself or another editor could put it in the article for you. Alternatively, if you have any related sources they could be useful for the expansion of this. Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 19:32, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Remove fued with Kim?

I dont think thats relevant to Nicki maybe we could add something more positive to her article like her Femnist views. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1flyguyrob (talk • contribs) 19:47, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

The feud would become more relevant if reliable sources could be provided. Out of the one's added, I saw maybe one reliable source at best. Not enough to put something as defamatory as that, and stay within the safe borders of WP:BLP. However, we cannot omit it simply on the grounds that it's "negative". We're not here to cover up her past or make Nicki Minaj sound better than she is. We're only here to document the facts. That's it. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 20:08, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I sourced heavily from MTV and Billboard. I think MTV and Billboard meet WP:RS substantially. We also can't add or remove information based on whether it portrays her positively or negatively. You're both welcome to improve upon the section, it is only the first draft and written entirely from one person. Jennie | ☎ 20:19, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I, too, was wondering why this warrants any inclusion. Minaj (as well as Kim) have had various feuds with other artists which, from my understanding, is common in hip hop. --WWETrishMickiefan (talk) 22:44, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Something being "common" doesn't warrant exclusion either, as a biography of a living person it is essential that this article is broad in its coverage of all aspects of the persons life. Although it is true that Lil' Kim has had quite a few feuds in the past, Minaj hasn't had any high-profile ones (although her career is still young). It is a common feature of hip-hop and rap artists, but this feud spawned a mixtape, songs, critical opinion, celebrity comment and considerable media attention; it is mentioned in most interviews that both artists give and is still ongoing. I think it need its place on this article. Jennie | ☎ 23:33, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

**The Final (Hopefully) Big Birthdate/Age Discussion**

I think it's important to settle this once and for all (if we can). When this article was first made it stated that Minaj was born in 1984, and over time this has changed to the general consensus agreeing it was 1982. The good article nomination process highlighted the fact that the source we were using was unreliable - in fact - it was blacked out. At the moment the article may change to show her birthdate being "(December, 8 1982 or 1984)" - as it is evident we haven't really got a consensus either way. I'm opening this discussion so we can (hopefully) come to a conclusion about how old she actually is, and with reliable sources, common sense and luck, we might just get there!

Various news outlets/websites/media etc., have reported her age/birthdate to be either be 1982 or 1984. I've done my best to compile some sources for both, and if editors can find some more that would be great. Everyone and anyone's opinions/thoughts/comments would be welcome! Thanks Jennie | ☎ 13:56, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Sources that state/infer Minaj is born Dec 8, 1984:

• Biography.com
• Jango Radio

Sources that state/infer Minaj is born Dec 8, 1982:

• The Huffington Post
• MTV
• IMDb

While it is true that certain aspects of the police report are blacked-out (the responding officer's home address, Minaj's home address, the Incident #, Samuel Safaree's home address), Minaj's DOB is not. (I am unclear as to why a government document - in this case, a police report that was released to the public - is considered unreliable.)

In any case, Wikipedia can only gather what is reported in reliable sources. A possible solution would be to change the line to something along the lines of:

Onika Tanya Maraj (born either December 8, 1982 {sources} or December 8, 1984 {sources}) or

That way the birthdate controversy is acknowledged and the sources for the different dates are included. If both dates are not somehow included, that section of the article will continue to be a persistent target of continual edit/revert cycles. If both dates are included in the article wherever the birthdate is mentioned (lede, early life, Infobox), then hopefully the birthdate information will stabilize and the number of needless edit/reverts will decline. Shearonink (talk) 14:55, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I honestly feel that the situation was handled best the way it was before: the reliable sources supported the 1982 date, with a footnote mentioning why that date was chosen over the other one, and the sources that supported the other one (1984) in the footnote. Listing both dates in the lead seems a bit unprofessional to me. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 15:01, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I think I may be leaning towards listing both. We can't provide a reliable source just yet, and the police document was from TMZ.com (which isn't a RS). I agree it may look "unprofessional", but it is done on numerous articles on Wikipedia. What I think will be interesting is this December - as this is either when Minaj is 30 or 28, if she is 30, then the media/fans will report/discuss this as a milestone, it's going to be interesting to see her reaction and if we can finally put it to bed then. What I would say is that the evidence does seem to be leaning towards 1982, although that still isn't definite. Jennie | ☎ 16:14, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Minaj's age is definately disputed I am a huge fan, and I would to believe she is younger but shes turning 30 this year, I remeber on her E! Special documentary it showed a clip of her in school in 5th grade and it was filmed in 1993.<--- I never forgot about that. And in her yearbook at LaGuardia she is under class of 2000, which would mean she is either 29 or 30. Even though she had a late birthday and in New York she doesnt meet the deadline she goes to school earlier or later. I think she just wanted to appear younger so she could be in the industry longer.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1flyguyrob (talk • contribs) 16:30, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I already pointed out the E documentary information, but that can't be sourced. Neither the LaGuardia yearbook - unless somebody had a copy. We need reliably sourced information. Jennie | ☎ 16:39, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I've changed it to display both for now, as to pass for GA we need to provide a reliable source. As the sources conflict, we may as well show both until we can reach a consensus here. Although I was initially convinced it was 1982, Billboard provides her birthdate being 1984 - and I can't think of anything more reliable than Billboard in terms of artists biographies/information/statistics. I'm guessing we will eventually come to a conclusion to provide both or either, so what are we thinking? Jennie | ☎ 19:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure why the billboard reference was removed in favor of a non-notable Celebuzz ref, but I've undone the edit. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 00:02, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

IMDb is not considered to be a reliable source. In my opinion, the official Dallas police report would be considered to be more reliable for the 1982 birthdate, in the sense that the officers have rules and guidelines as to what they can and cannot accept as proof for dates. The Report is an official government document, but IMDb is a user-submitted venue, so I have substituted the Police Report and adjusted the sentence a bit. Shearonink (talk) 02:22, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

My Edits

I really have a problem with people removing my edits, I work hard to type and source such things and I feel disrespected when you guys delete, or remove my contributions. I never remove anyone's edit's and if I do I just make adjustments or minor changes. I have been taught to respect other's and I would never do that to anyone who just want's to contribute to an encylopedia, I think that if someone has a reliable source and makes an edit than it should be included in the article. I have enough respect for everyone to not delete or change their edits without their notice. We are all here to work on her article so why take away from it ? We are never going to get a GA review if we keep on removing people's edits.

I understand if you want to make some alterations or reword the edit's but plese don't remove it entirely. Thank you 1flyguyrob —Preceding undated comment added 16:24, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Whenever I remove an edit, I leave clear instructions why in the edit summary. Which can be viewed in the article history. The major issue with some of your contributions has been that the sources are not reliable according to Wikipedia's standards. Also, of the wording has been potentially defamatory or deliberately promotional, which can't have according to Wikipedia's standards on biographies about living people. It's awesome that you want to contribute to this article. I totally respect that you are a Minaj fan, but some of the comments that have been added could actually end up hurting her in the long run, because they potentially cast her in an unfair light. We can only make such claims if they are well-sourced, which they haven't been. I would recommend reading through WP:RS and WP:BLP very clearly before adding info to articles about people who are still alive or recent dead. Know that when your edits are removed it is no personal attack against you. Don't take it so personally. We all want what's best for this article. :) --Thevampireashlee (talk) 16:51, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I second what Thevampireashlee has just said. Sometimes edits have to be deleted/removed/changed to comply with Wikipedia's guidelines - guidelines that focus around providing factual, free content. Your enthusiasm on this article is admirable and it's good to see your dedication in improving this particular article (and those related), but we have to include information that people can form their own judgment upon. Adding things that purposefully influence the way readers interpret the subject can be seen as damaging the neutrality that articles should have. The guidelines for biographies of living people are among the strictest on Wikipedia, I would recommend reading them. Do not take the removal of your edits (or for that matter, anybody else who has had edits removed) personally - the quality for inclusion becomes particularly tight during the good article nomination process and editors involved will generally remove huge changes or contentious additions. Jennie | ☎ 17:10, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Signature

Is there a way for anyone to get Minaj's autograph so it can be uploaded to her Wiki ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1flyguyrob (talk • contribs) 14:42, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello? Can anyone get a signature contribs) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1flyguyrob (talk • contribs) 03:09, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Please sign all talk pages with four tildes. It's not very difficult. Anyway, I do not have Ms. Minaj's signature, nor do I know anyone who does. At present, it's not crucial to the article or to its encyclopedic nature to include her signature, so I'm not pressured either way. It would be interesting to decorate the article with it, but I see little to significance of including it. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 20:07, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 September 2012

Nicki Minaj was born in 1982 it says so on imdb.

Pbamgboshe (talk) 21:49, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Apparently there are conflicting sources for this, so that's why the article lists two possible dates. RudolfRed (talk) 22:17, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

 Not done See the discussion above, we have conflicting reliable sources for both so we have decided to include both. We expect to get more confirmation in December (hopefully). Although, if you have a source from Nicki Minaj, her record label or anything offical from her that would be helpful. Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 07:33, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

REQUEST 9/5/12

Can Minaj's perfume Pink Friday get its own page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CDFC:19D0:3139:7805:EE27:EF80 (talk) 01:51, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

hELLO???????????????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CDFC:19D0:C1DC:31F9:D807:A285 (talk) 19:30, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Maybe, do you think there is enough information to make a whole separate article on this? If not, it will probably be merged into this one. If yes, feel free to start one. If you don't want to start one, I'm sure one of the editors here will be happy to take it up. (Also can you sign your posts with 4 tildes?) Thanks. Jennie | ☎ 19:35, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

What reliable sources that have written extensively about the perfume are out there? We're not talking articles about Minaj that mention the perfume; we're talking about the perfume being the primary subject of the article. —C.Fred (talk) 23:41, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Slightly off topic, but should the mention of her perfume be moved down to the "other ventures" section? Specifically, after the nail polish collection? --Thevampireashlee (talk) 05:41, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

there are plenty of reliable sources that have written about Minaj's fragrance. 1flyguyrob —Preceding undated comment added 22:34, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

Here is a source that has written, quite extensively, all about the perfume, the campaign, the fragrance notes exe. http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/multi-platinum-recording-artist-nicki-minaj-introduces-pink-friday-her-debut-fragrance-168896186.html KaneZolanski (talk) 07:51, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

That source is a repository for press releases and does not appear to be an independent reliable source. Shearonink (talk) 19:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 13 September 2012

an accounting clerk/gospel signer

Please change 'signer' to 'singer' 134.153.92.79 (talk) 14:24, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Done. Keφr (talk) 14:30, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Associated acts

I went to youtube and looked up pound the alarm and it popped up saying Pitbull Lil Jon and Chris Brown where also in the song.So if those can be added in to the associated acts page ASAP people won't complaine about this anymore.75.21.159.182 (talk) 01:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)1575.21.159.182 (talk) 01:07, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

First, I would like to say that YouTube is not a high quality reliable source. Since any crackpot can upload a video on the site, it can't be taken as reliable. In addition to this, there are guidelines for what can and cannot be considered "associated acts" on the article about a musical artist. You can find them here. Unless these three artists meet these criteria, we cannot add them to the article as an associated act. Here's the criteria:

• Individual or individuals: groups of which he or she has been a member
• Other acts with which this act has collaborated on multiple occasions, or on an album, or toured with as a single collaboration act playing together
• Groups which have spun off from this group
• A group from which this group has spun off

--Thevampireashlee (talk) 01:15, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Under these pretenses, I would justify that adding Britney Spears is acceptable, due to Minaj's presence on the Femme Fatale Tour for her remix collaboration on Till The World Ends. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 01:16, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure Britney meets that criteria as they didn't tour as a single collaboration act - e.g. Jay-Z and Kanye West's Watch the Throne Tour. —Jennie | ☎ 18:42, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Mixtapes

Why dont her mixtapes have pages ? Only Beam Me Up Scotty has a page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CDFC:19D0:31C3:412B:CBB9:2895 (talk) 21:12, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

{db-userreq} gearhed (talk) 23:26, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Nicky Minaj curses at Mariah Carey on American Idol

{db-userreq} This content has already been included by another editor, please delete for conciseness. gearhed (talk) 23:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

On Tuesday, October 2, 2012; during an audition taping of American Idol, Nicky Minaj curses and uses several F-Bombs directed at Mariah Carey while Keith Urban sits between them. Longtime American Idol judge Randy Jackson is heard asking Nicky to calm down in the background.

The poorly selling rapper has also been in public feuds with Lil' Kim recently. gearhed (talk) 19:20, 3 October 2012 (UTC) [2]

Looks like someone already added it. I'm wondering whether this is notable enough to even include. Looks like ABC, CNN, and TMZ all reported on it, but it feels like WP:BLPGOSSIP to me. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 03:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

It says that she apologised on twitter - But the apology was directed to rapper Da Brat as the media reported she had claimed to bottle Minaj. Nicki responded via twitter but then apologised afterwards when Da Brat tweeted she had made no such comment. I just thought this should be made clear as the Wiki page seems to suggest the apology was directed towards Mariah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.32.80 (talk) 23:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done - Yeah the "brat" apology and the bottle tweet Nicki had mafe was directed to rapper Da Brat once a fake tweet leaked of Da Brat saying she would hit Nicki in the head with a bottle, speaking on the incident with her and Mariah, then Nicki apologized to Da Brat 1flyguyrob (talk) 01:45, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Mixtapes ??????

Can someone help me make a mixtape page for all her mixtapes

1flyguyrob (talk) 21:34, 10 October 2012 (UTC) make a mixtape page for all her mixtapes

You hey Nicki Ninaj You A BOSS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.147.67.181 (talk) 23:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Mariah and Obama controversy

This needs to be put under the contoversy section. U cant include these two in her Pink FridaY: Roman Reloaded section but then have a controversy section for the Summer Jam feud and the Lil Kim beef. Both topics received alot of media attention, and for the people saying I will be blocked are they adminstrators ?--1flyguyrob (talk) 20:28, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

One argument with Mariah Carey doesn't really warrant it's own section, futhermore, it would be unrealistic to document every single controversial lyric that Minaj has written or rapped. Both of these can be implemented in the 2011-present: Roman Reloaded... section quite nicely; something that does not fit into a specific time frame, like the Lil' Kim feud, needs its own section as it would not make sense spread across the Biography sections. As for the "Summer Jam incident" that perhaps could be implemented into the 2011-present: Roman Reloaded... section as well, although it may be too in-depth in its present form. Simply, these could do with inclusion, but not whole or separate sections, as they may seem relevant now, but perhaps not considering Minaj's whole career (see, WP:RECENTISM). Thanks. —Jennie | ☎ 20:52, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 18 October 2012

In the infobox where it saids years active it saids 2002–present, that is wrong and it should say 2007–present, because she released her first mixtape Playtime Is Over in 2007. 69.209.195.200 (talk) 18:26, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done Thanks. —Jennie | ☎ 19:01, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

YMCMB

Is there some source about the collaboration album YMCMB?It says it's going to be released in 2012,but half of the year passed and it's still not released!--Nikinikolananov (talk) 18:01, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Minor edit request

In the 2011-present section, there is a mention of Cassie with leads to a disambiguation page. The internal link should either be removed or fixed to a proper article.--Tallard (talk) 03:04, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Done Cassie Ventura is the link in question. I also reworked the sentence, as it was written awkwardly. —C.Fred (talk) 03:09, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Infobox image

An edit has ensued about the image for this article's infobox. My thoughts are as such: the image was uploaded to the WikiMedia Commons as being an "original work", licensed under CC-BY-SA 3.0 that allows the image to be freely used. Since the user that uploaded it does not seem to have an account or any proof whatsoever that they are a professional photographer that snapped photos of Nicki, I'm assuming this is a blatant lie. The image is probably owned by Getty Images and was illegally altered and uploaded to the Commons. This happens a lot. So, at present, the only high-quality photograph we have of Minaj is this one: File:Christopher Macsurak Nicki Minaj cropped.jpg. Having a recent image of the recording artist is desirable, but not necessary at all. Recently, the same issue has arisen on another article I watch-over: Kesha. I left this message on the talk page of the person who engaged in the image edit-war, that I hope some people find illuminating in regards to this, nearly identical situation, taken from this:

I understand that you would like to add a more recent picture of Kesha to her article. It makes to do so and would help us be more accurate in our encyclopedia entry on her, but the image you would like to use is copyrighted by Getty Images. Their copyright claim can be circumvented with a fair-use rationale, but I do not believe that we have sufficient grounds for justifying the use of their image. If we could come up with some sort of critical commentary that justified its inclusion, then I would encourage you to keep it there; unfortunately, we can't at this time. At present, we have a dozen or so (yes, they are outdated) images of Kesha that can be freely used without worry of possible legal trouble. Right now, updating the image to be the most recent possible is not the highest priority for that article either. I would recommend that checking Flickr routinely, until a free image of her shows up. I'm willing to bet, however, that a high quality image won't surface into her next tour, though. If you have any questions about fair use or copyright, I would recommend looking here: WP:COPYRIGHT and WP:FAIRUSE.

--Thevampireashlee (talk) 13:42, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Well I think the photo should be used, I took into consideration, the other editor's desires for the picture to be included in the article and I did that by adding it into the article, but more recent pictures of Minaj are most likely more preferred, I mean we have a photo of her on the Femme Fatale Tour in the 2012 section and during that time, that tour was over. I think the newer picture should be used until the uploader is notified of the assumption of the photo not being under a free license so can, we agree on this ? --1flyguyrob (talk) 02:40, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I disagree, unfortunately. Would you continue to drive a car that you suspected might be stolen? No. Because you could get in trouble for not reporting it. It's best to leave the image out of the article until we can prove that the license is legitimate. I'm going to flag the image as potential license laundering and see what becomes it. If you would like, head over to WP:FLICKR, open the external link, and type in "Nicki Minaj" to see if anything freely licensed shows up. An alternative might, indeed, exist. :) I do agree, conversely, that once we find a more recent photograph and that photograph shows her full face, head-on (as is preferable over one that's more recent, in my opinion), we should move the current infobox image down to the 2012 section of the article. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 02:51, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I found this picture on Flickr, could we use this? http://www.flickr.com/photos/89587565@N08/8145878864/ --KaneZolanski (talk) 09:24, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that one's not the right license. WP:FLICKR gives a basic run-through of which licenses are acceptable. Also, the image that you linked to is another instance of Flickr washing, meaning someone created a Flickr account just to upload and misrepresent copyrighted images. Back to the drawing board, I'm afraid. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 21:31, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

I keep looking for more pictures on Flickr but they either seem professional with no copyright, indicating signs of laundering, or just copyrighted pictures. Unfortunately it seems hard to find copyright free images of Minaj. --KaneZolanski (talk) 02:54, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

More images will likely arise when she fully embarks on her Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded Tour. Tours are the best time to find freely licensed images. Patience :) --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj names

On the Nicki Minaj infobox, it says also known as then it has some names. Nicki Minaj never actually used those names as her professional name so why is it on there? CPGirlAJ (talk) 02:05, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree with your removal of them, because she hasn't used them professionally or released anything under those names. —C.Fred (talk) 12:56, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

These names were being passed off as aliases, but that is not quite the same thing as an alter ego -- the true nature of her Barbie and Zolanki personae. So you were very correct in removing them. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:49, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, plus I don't think those names were there before. CPGirlAJ (talk) 02:07, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Electropop and synthpop musician

Recently, I have been helping populate the category Category:Synthpop musicians, after someone added it to an article I've been watching (Porcelain Black). Of course, Nicki Minaj was one of the first recording artist to come to mind when I thought "electropop" (and synthpop, which are exactly the same thing). That said, it appears that User:SnapSnap has removed the category to every article (s)he felt it did not apply. Normally, I dislike engaging in edit-wars of any kind, especially in regard to genres, but this is a bit unnecessary -- given that I am being asked to relinquish sources for something that is so obvious it hurts and that 90% of the other genres on every musician pages are completely unsourced. That said, what qualifies one as a synthpop/electropop musician? In my mind, having at least one prominent publication qualifies someone as a musician of that genres, but I've been basing the criteria on albums and singles. Someone like Madonna who has had electropop songs and albums since her first album, and people like Enrique Inglesias who has at least two electropop albums (Euphoria and Insomniac), are clear examples of artists that epitomize a genre, but in the case of Nicki Minaj, who has only had two studio albums published, it is not so clear. She is considered a hip hop artist, with only two albums and a mix. One of those albums is highly views as electropop, yet she is only considered hip hop. That sounds biased, and it sounds like we're giving undue weight. It should be clear that a large, large portion of her output is in the electropop genre, and not just from Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded. Most notably, "Super Bass" is an electropop song and is her most successful song to date. That said, every single on her sophomoric album, aside from "Right by My Side" and "Beez in the Trap", is an electropop song. Almost all of them were highly successful on Billboard charts. The only hip hop songs Minaj seems to produce are those where she is a featured artist with other individuals as the primary artist. Otherwise, all of her prominent releases are electropop. Considering that this is not enough to justify considering her an electropop vocalist in the same vein as Lady Gaga and Kesha, there are multiple sources that either directly mention it or allude to it:

• http://popcrush.com/nicki-minaj-starships/
• http://www.printpiano.com/starships-nicki-minaj/
• http://popdust.com/2012/04/06/nicki-minaj-starships-today-show-lip-synch/
• http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2012/04/03/nicki-minaj-jennifer-lopez-morgan-page-new-pop-songs/
• http://www.billboard.com/#/column/the-juice/nicki-minaj-pink-friday-roman-reloaded-track-1006612752.story
• http://top40.about.com/od/singles/gr/Nicki-Minaj-Super-Bass.htm
• http://www.muumuse.com/2012/04/nicki-minaj-pink-friday-roman-reloaded-album-review.html/
• http://www.theboombox.com/2012/02/03/madonna-give-me-all-your-luvin-nicki-minaj-mia/
• http://www.theboombox.com/2012/04/09/nicki-minaj-young-forever-kelly-sheehan/
• http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/pink-friday-20101122

Yet somehow she is still not an electropop artist? I want to know why? Is it simply that other editors don't like their favorite artists being called "electropop" or "synthpop" artists, because those artists tend to be viewed as untalented? What is it? And the most important question I have: should be list her as an electropop artist in the article? I say yes. Resoundingly yes. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 00:43, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I think this comes from the idea that Genres on Wikipedia should remain general. A few songs on PF:RR such as "Whip It", "Pound the Alarm" and "Starships" are electropop, but the majority make up hip-hop, R&B and some ballad/pop. I think the input from some other editors would be useful in this decision and I would perhaps suggest you arise this again after the Re-Up has been released (when there is more idea of direction), but I think that the majority of editors would say that Genres should be kept general, and at the moment, both pop and electronic are listed. —Jennie | ☎ 11:05, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

I fully agree now that general, in regards to genre, is preferable, instead of listing pages and pages of sub-genres. However, the original issue was that the Category:Synthpop musicians category was being removed because the article text did not specifically mention that she performed a significant number of synthpop (synonymous with electropop) songs. Since I believe the genre comprises the majority of her discography (at the very least a significant part), I advocate the inclusion of the category; however, if we remove mention of the her songs being in that genre, then other parties will have grounds for removing it. I believe the topic is significant enough (with a plethora of reliable journalism verifying) to be in the article. See the cycle yet? If we don't mention it, then the category will be removed, but it's significant enough to include. As it currently stands, the article has both the mentions of her work largely being in the electropop genre with matching categories. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 03:25, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

She is 27

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHhWeDA3l4U&feature=watch-vrec — Preceding unsigned comment added by Milkastracciacow (talk • contribs) 13:13, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Her personal statements are in direct contravention of her statements to police. As such, we include both dates/years (✉→BWilkins←✎) 13:59, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Milkastracciacow, Ellen said she was 26 last year and Nicki didn't deny it. I know that the date that says she is 29 is what was there in the beginning, but still, she doesn't look that old. Plus, why would she lie and want people to know a fake age? CPGirlAJ (talk) 02:05, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

 Not done Someone "not looking that old" isn't a way of verifying someone's age. As explained above, we have conflicting sources for both dates/years and therefore provide both. As her 27th or 30th birthday comes around next month, it will be interesting to see if it is verified. —Jennie | ☎ 21:08, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. Cher doesn't' look 66, but she is. Hilary Clinton doesn't look 65, but she is. Cher looks younger than Hilary, but she isn't. Proof and point. Looks can be deceiving. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 21:55, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Look at her E! special the first one , and I remember it showed her in the 5th grade in 1993. Even though she has a December birthday she's either turning 29 this year or 30 this year. So someone's lying around here,... and when she tweets articles from her twitter they put age 29, and she never says anything about it, and her being so outspoken would've adressed the false information by now.--2602:306:CDFC:19D0:B831:A972:DB97:8377 (talk) 02:20, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

WP:SYNTH doesn't work on Wikipedia. We do know someone's lying, but there's proof both directions, so it needs to stay as it is until it's cleared up. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:15, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Then where is the source that says she is 29? CPGirlAJ (talk) 21:52, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

The redacted police department report provided on the main page, see Ref [#1], as well as:

• The Huffington Post
• MTV
• IMDb

As said in a notice at the top of this page, we have chosen to provide both birthdates until either can be contradicted, most hopefully, by Minaj herself. Thanks. —Jennie | ☎ 22:12, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't matter what the truth is; it matters what notable media sources says her age is. Whatever the majority of the sources say about her age is what I think we should include in the article. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 00:29, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Still, I think we should go by the age Minaj stated herself, or agreed with. The sources you gave that stated she is 29 might be wrong. Like I said before, why would she lie about her age? CPGirlAJ (talk) 00:04, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

There are many reasons people lie about their age. There's a handful of women in my office who do it every day. This topic has gone through multiple discussions, including verification of the external sources. The current WP:CONSENSUS does appear to work best overall (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:11, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Birthday

She's born in 1982... so why mix it up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.206.134 (talk) 01:14, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Because we have one date that the artist and her mother claims, and another on a sworn police statement. As such, the dates have been major bones of contention. It was therefore decided under WP:CONSENSUS to include both. See the archives of this very talkpage for the extensive discussions (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:21, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

How can this be a Good Article when you don't even know when she was born? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.150.68.19 (talk) 20:19, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Rapping technique

As I stated in the edit summary, I have changed the section titled "Rapping technique" under "Artistry" to "Musical style". Originally, the section was simply "Rapping technique" and has been so for quite some time. I altered the title to "Rapping technique and musical style" after expanding the section to include her foray into electronic (most notable electropop) genres. The inclusion was reverted back to the original state of simply "Rapping technique". I have since changed the title again to simply "Musical style" as I believe it is more appropriate. Reasoning: while I believe "Rapping technique" is succinct and eloquent, even brilliant, it is no longer wholly accurate for what the section contains. In order to optimize the coherency of the section, I recommend a slightly broader header title; simply, the section is no longer exclusively about rapping. Additionally, the phrasing "Musical style", when it comes to biographies of musicians seems to be the unspoken house trend around Wikipedia. For example, I have participated in writing a few good articles on musicians; two of them contain this title header, Porcelain Black and Kesha -- similar artists, both having adventures into electronic music and rapping coincidentally. That aside, other good articles including Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, and Madonna. Former good articles Katy Perry and Christina Aguilera contain it or manifestations of it. Featured article Janet Jackson and B-Class article Lana Del Rey incorporate it. Get my point? :) Arguments and accolades welcome. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:00, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Agree, although predominately a rapper, her movement into more genres of music and singing means that "Musical style" is more fitting. —Jennie | ☎ 22:19, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Expanding on what you said, Jennie, leaving it broad also opens up the opportunity for us to add more information (and more types of information) as time passes. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:39, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Maybe we should add a music videos and performance section under it too ? --2602:306:CDFC:19D0:4A8:EA82:71A2:4FA2 (talk) 22:37, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I definitely support this idea, should we find any reliable source that discuss the topic. Lady Gaga's article and Janet Jackson's article do this fairly well, I think. We could use them as examples (the articles, not the artists per se). --Thevampireashlee (talk) 22:39, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Looks like an attempt to forge a section about her music video artistry was made. Unfortunately, I reverted the additions for two reasons. First, 90% of the section was completely unsourced, making the claims possible original research (a gross violation of our policy on biographies). Second, the wording was very peacock-y, meaning the tone of the verbiage was not indifferent, unbiased, or objective, but instead served to promote the subject of the article, something that also highly contradicts what is permissible for a biography article. I understand that we all want the article to be as well-written as possible, while covering a vast array of topics, but there are stylistic guidelines we must adhere to. We cannot aim to make Minaj look good or convince other people that she is a desirable artist to listen to, but we can provide information about her and allow others to come to whatever conclusion they will. This is perhaps very difficult for one who is a fan of her work. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 03:31, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I would like to add another comment on the matter of Minaj's music videos. Normally, I would myself embark on writing adding content to the article in regards to this, but I'm not quite sure where to begin. It does not appear that a wide selection of journalism exists on the subject of Minja's cinematography. I speculate that, because Minaj is still developing her artistic identity, she has not yet developed a concrete trademark that we could easily discern and write about. As evidenced by her first two albums, she seems to be experimenting with various genres, sounds, and vocal techniques, so it is no wonder that her ancillary music videos reflect that exploration. I'm curious to see if anyone has noticed any patterns or trends in the subject of her music videos. Someone like Lady Gaga or Lana Del Rey have very distinct cinematic styles for their videos. Both are quite gaudy and over the top, which may explain why more journalism exists about their videos than Minaj's; I don't mean to insult Minaj or devalue her as an artist, but I'm not sure she has a particular video style; her work, to be quite frank, is forgettable and I can't seem to find an underlying theme. --Thevampireashlee (talk) 03:44, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

I understand completely, and thank you for doing that because when I am critiqued it helps me become a better writer, and ever since I have started using Wikipedia I have been getting better grades in English. Anyways, back to the topic. There isn't much information on Minaj's videos, not as a whole, unless I find reviews from reliable sources who leave feedback from a single video. I want to add more to Nicki Minaj's wikipedia, not to promote her, but so a reader gathering information can have a complete idea of who Nicki Minaj is. I will try to do another article soon. --2602:306:CDFC:19D0:188E:FF84:A0CE:C3BD --1flyguyrob (talk) 03:49, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Even if you cannot find enough information to justify an entire section, perhaps adding a sentence or two to the "Artistry" section would be beneficial. I'm sure we could squeeze something in there. Glad that you're learning and haven't taken my comments to heart! :) --Thevampireashlee (talk) 04:39, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 November 2012

In the infobox where it saids years active, it saids 2004–present that is not correct and it should say 2007–present, because she released her first mixtape Playtime Is Over in 2007. 69.209.221.1 (talk) 15:41, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

 Done I changed this a while ago per a talk page request and have no idea why it's been changed back. Thank you for noticing! —Jennie | ☎ 17:20, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

It was changed back to 2004 because the paragraph directly above where you're reading says she was involved with a group who was featured on ThemeAddict: WWE The Music, Vol. 6, which was indeed released in 2004. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 17:23, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

But she released nothing (apart from MySpace songs) between 2005-7, does that period count as "active"? —Jennie | ☎ 21:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Many artists do nothing for years. Doesn't make them not formally inactive. Her first work was validly 2003-2004 ... which means the date of her first becoming active was then, not when she re-emerged, or else we'd have multiple dates in many many articles (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:36, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 17 November 2012

Please change that Nicki Minaj is influenced by LiL'Kim because Nicki clearly said that she isn't influenced by her and she doesnt like her because she's disrespectful. Matt mor8 (talk) 18:49, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Where did she say that? —C.Fred (talk) 19:12, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj signs two artists

Minaj revealed on twitter that she had signed two new artists, "Parker Ighile" and "Brinx Billions". Does this require a section or a fewlines on her page?

• https://mobile.twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ/status/268951364003061760
• https://mobile.twitter.com/NICKIMINAJ/status/268959772307488768

KaneZolanski | Talk 16:27, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Not until they meet the definition of notable themselves (✉→BWilkins←✎) 16:36, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

It says that those pages don't exist. CPGirlAJ (talk) 22:16, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Never mind, sorry, the first time a clicked on the link it didn't exist but now it does. I don't think that officially states that she did sign them. She could have meant something else. CPGirlAJ (talk) 22:23, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 November 2012

The Profile picture needs an update change it to a recent picture http://www.vibevixen.com/wp-content/gallery/nicki-minaj-nyc-perfume-launch/vibe-vixen-nicki-minaj-nyc7.jpg Nadjaminaj (talk) 07:54, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Not done: See the image use policy and this. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:14, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

New section?

The "2011-present: Pink Friday: Roman Reloaded"... section is getting quite long now, what is everyone's thoughts on creating a new section like "2012-present: The Re-Up and third studio album", or something entitled differently? —Jennie | ☎ 20:22, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

It is getting really long maybe we can seperate the paragraphs a bit --1flyguyrob (talk) 00:28, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

The Pinkprint?

remove the 2013 album titled The Pinkprint its a question on twitter not confirmed--Onlythetruthisappropriate (talk) 16:55, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 December 2012

Remove Philatrophy section - At 0.1% of yearly income, is the donation to the foodbank noteworthy as philanthropic work? Philanthropy appears to commonly mean significant longstanding commitments of time and/or money to charitable causes. Is this a single example of a more far reaching philanthropic involvement? In that case the section should be duly expanded. If it is not I would advocate for the removal of the section and in addition am curious if it has for the most part been included due to its link to current events (Sandy). 108.235.25.221 (talk) 23:31, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

 Not done. Philanthropy refers to charitable actions. As it is her only charitable work at this time, then there's no reason to remove it. If you have something more charitable, feel free to request an edit to add it gwickwire^talk_edits 01:21, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 9 December 2012

Caption accompanying http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/File:Nicki_Minaj_perfume_launch.jpg in this article states "Minaj in November 2012 at her fragrance launch in Syndey at Macy's" The retailer it should refer to is Myer http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Myer see detail here. http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/nicki-minaj-gives-sydney-fans-an-eyeful-20121130-2al06.html 121.218.216.124 (talk) 02:50, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Done Vacation^nine 03:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Birthday

As expected, more information as to Nicki's correct birthday was made available on her birthday today. I have seen several websites call it her 30th (linked below) with none calling it her 29th:

• http://rapfix.mtv.com/2012/12/08/happy-birthday-nicki-minaj-big-year-in-review/
• http://www.celebuzz.com/2012-12-08/happy-birthday-nicki-minaj-30-of-the-birthday-girls-most-outrageous-looks-photos/
• http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/08/nicki-minaj-birthday-most-normal-style-moments-_n_2262070.html?ir=Style

Seeing as though this article is a good article, I wanted to propose the change of confirming her birthday as December 8, 1982 and removing 1984 before making the change myself. Thanks, 68DANNY2 (talk) 17:38, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

No thanks. We have sufficient sourcing to retain what actually appears to the correct date. Both dates have consensus to remain.(✉→BWilkins←✎) 19:23, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

The person above clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. First off they didn't sign their name properly..just a timestamp appears. Then, User:68DANNY2 provided sources indicating Nicki turning 30 on the 8th. Did consensus mention to keep both dates up, even past her birthday which was yesterday? She is 30. Take out the 1984.Tinton5 (talk) 18:38, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

The person above is Bwilkins, I suggest you take this matter up with him. I have adjusted the signature to show who the poster was. Also, yes, this matter has been discussed repeatedly on this talkpage... There is a Dallas Police Report, that was reported extensively on in many reliable sources, that indicated Minaj's birthyear was 1982, while most other sources, including Minaj herself over and over again, claimed and indicated her birthyear was 1984, so both dates were included in the past. If a published birthday card and its accompanying article is counted as sufficient to prove once and for all that Miss Minaj's birthyear is 1982, to back up the police report, I'm fine with that. Shearonink (talk) 20:03, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

NO. According ot ENews on her Documentary Nicki Minaj is 28. So she was born in 1984 Source ENews Nicki Minaj. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.7.124 (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 December 2012

Born 8th December 1984 (age 28) 92.20.7.124 (talk) 21:52, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 22:25, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Birthday

Based on this article by Billboard.com it confirms that Nicki's birthday is December 8, 1982, making that one the correct birthdate. Whatever318 (talk) 18:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Both birthdates are properly referenced. A signed police report confirms the alternate date (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:38, 13 December 2012 (UTC)

Well that one could just be a simple mistake because there's multiple references for the other one. Whatever318 (talk) 00:45, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Really? A statement to an officer of law that could result in being jailed if you give the wrong information is somehow "a simple mistake"? The veracity of the documentation has been debated again and again - indeed, I was originally against it myself. The archives of this talkpage show the discussion and how consensus was obtained (✉→BWilkins←✎) 09:35, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 December 2012

Nicki Minaj and 2 Chainz both collaborated with songs Beez in the Trap and I Luv Dem Strippers, I think he should be added to Associated acts Smarty9108 (talk) 05:12, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Two minor songs does not make them an "associated act". (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:34, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Her early life

"at an unknown business"? Too specific. Could we perhaps change this to read just "a business"? ToriJana (talk) 17:37, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Tough call. "Unknown" in that sentence can mean we don't know the name, or that we don't know the type of business. The assumption on Wall street would be financial, but we don't know that. If you remove the "unknown", then people will indeed assume it was a financial business. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 17:47, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj age

I found a few clips, both more significant than the ones referenced on the page, one with Nicki stating her age with clear evidence that the clip from was '09 and another of her E! special documentary, both of which confirming her age to be 28. The page should be updated to include this information as it is quite a large error to have a date of birth wrong, expecially when not only an official documentary but the artist herself has stated that she is 28 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Spencersmat (talk • contribs)

Could you please read all of the discussions on this page before making that edit, or even suggesting the change. We have a SOURCED police report - which you would agree holds more weight than an E! documentary. I would have thought the words "both dates are intentional" might have helped. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 11:20, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

I don't know why people didn't just add "or" between the dates to make this clearer. I've now inserted the word "or" and added a {{cn}} on the 1984 date. I also added a comment in the wikitext, because "both dates are intentional" doesn't explain anything by itself, and it should probably be removed from visible text: You can't tell from that visible comment who intended it or why. Someone reading the article can't tell if it's because of conflicting reliable sources (which aren't discussed in the article), or if it is because someone insists they've been born twice, or God knows what Hollywood craziness. --Closeapple (talk) 21:11, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

In case you had not noticed, the second date has been removed dozens of times. I recently added the bit about "intentional" because people were ignoring the inline wikitext. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 21:45, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Is this enough rationale for it to change to 1982 permanently? If not, we should restore the "or December 8 1984" as we still have sources for both. —Jennie | ☎ 22:04, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

I've removed the 1982 year (and kept the date) in the lead. Unlike 1984, 1982 was the only one mentioned, which is misleading to the reader. -- MST☆R ^{(Merry Christmas!)} 07:39, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

References

The Pinkprint

The Pinkprint shouldn't be added until we have more info. And delete that page anyway. Nicki was joking when she said that, and that website is not reliable. I know you're going to say no, but you'll be proven wrong in the next few months. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hello Barbie 1234 (talk • contribs) 01:51, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

TV Show

On Nicki Minaj's TV show on E!, it says she was born in 1984. --176.255.52.39 (talk) 16:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Proposed WikiProject

I have proposed a WikiProject with the goal to improve the quality of articles related to Nicki Minaj; it can be found here. Feedback (support, opposition, comments, etc.) are appreciated; hopefully, we can promote additional articles to GA status. Thanks, WikiRedactor (talk) 21:23, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:N Nicki Minaj Show

Is this section even notable?

In 2012, amateur cartoonist David Monger authored a popular web series based on Nicki Minaj called The Nekci Menij Show. Featuring pop icons from Madonna to Marina and the Diamonds, the characters are illustrated in an intentionally crude manner accompanied by SMS language so as to mirror the internet meme Dolan Duck.[123][124] Since September 2012, the show had garnered more than 600,000 views on YouTube.[123] Primarily crafted using Microsoft Paint, the show is intended as a satire of celebrity syndrome and stan culture.[123][124]

It's not specific to Minaj except for a parody of her name and it smells of this crude YouTube Paint user trying to ride Minaj's coattails into notoriety on her article. Someone want to check into the edit history as to who inserted these sources? If it is so notable then why isn't in his article? 97.85.168.22 (talk) 16:32, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Foxy Brown is not dead

Does Nicki belief that Foxy is dead or is the text wrong? Maybe she is referring to Lisa Lopez that died in a car accident? Maybe the problem is in past tense grammar or it's a Wiki editor's grammar but the whole paragraph reads as if Foxy might be dead not like Nicki was about to do a concert with Foxy in a few days http://necolebitchie.com/2012/08/15/nicki-minaj-brings-out-foxy-brown-the-roseland-ballroom/

I never really told Foxy how much she has influenced me and how much she changed my life, and you've gotta tell people that when they're alive to even be able to take the compliment, instead of paying tribute to them when they're no longer here."[151] She has said that Foxy Brown was "the most influential female rapper" and that her album Broken Silence changed her life.[152] 97.85.168.22 (talk) 16:50, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Nicki's not implying Foxy is dead she is saying that you have to in hindsight before someone does pass on or leave the music industry that you respect someone. --1flyguyrob (talk) 20:23, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Clothing Line

Nicki Minaj's clothing line has not been released yet. It says on the official Nicki Minaj wikipedia page that it was released January 9, 2013 but the clothing line has yet to be released. — Preceding unsigned comment added by M666nster (talk • contribs) 02:16, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Where does it say it was released January 9th? It says announced January 9TH --1flyguyrob (talk) 20:22, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 February 2013

Hi,

Can anybody change the image of the article by this one please?:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nicki_Minaj_At_Las_Vegas.png

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Elias Kardous

(Sorry for my english I'm french)

Degagebouche (talk) 21:24, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Done. Smarty9108 (talk) 03:57, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

I've had to undo the edit. Smarty9108, please don't process image requests without making certain that it isn't a copyright violation. Degagebouche, if I ever again detect that you have falsely claimed to be the owner of an image, as you did when you uploaded a copy of http://www.oneasianworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/704_846802_561492.jpg to Commons, your account will be blocked from editing.—Kww(talk) 22:17, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Huh? It's my OWN picture, not my bad if they take it from my fb. --Degagebouche (talk) 23:08, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

And here I thought it would be obvious that lying about it would get you blocked even faster.—Kww(talk) 23:36, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Why can't we use her real birthday, again?

Whatsup with the watchdogging over her birthdate? The discussion over it has even been deleted, and that is a pretty huge sign multiple people are guarding an article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.199.77.73 (talk) 18:56, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

I see plenty of discussion in the archives. —C.Fred (talk) 02:26, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

She was born on December 8, 1982. --75.187.106.39 (talk) 15:58, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

According to some reliable sources. Other just-as-reliable sources say otherwise (✉→BWilkins←✎) 17:34, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

No sources this year are saying Minaj is 28, and Minaj herself has even retweeted articles where they mention her being 30 years old is that not reliable enough, and the fact of how outspoken she is, I'm sure she would have addressed the age rumor by now, Minaj is 30, all the number add up. On her documentary special on E! It showed her being in fifth grade in 1993.--1flyguyrob (talk) 12:35, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 28 February 2013

"She released a two singles" should be "She released two singles" Richkuhl (talk) 06:02, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

 Done simple enough --Thevampireashlee (talk) 08:24, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 21 March 2013

Delete ", respectively." regarding her father's American Express employment. It is superfluous. 70.231.141.107 (talk) 07:28, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Done: This may have been left over from a previous version of the sentence that was not completely copy edited, so I think it can be considered a minor edit. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:16, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

Pink Friday Special Edition

Pink Friday Special Edition is a LIMITED EDITION fragrance not her 2ND fragrance. She confirmed it herself on Twitter and said her official fragrance will be released after the limited edition one. And the date has been changed from May 2013 to mid-April 2013. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.163.207.139 (talk) 23:34, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Done: Corrected the error.

--1flyguyrob (talk) 02:36, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

False Info on charted Female Rapper

It says on April 12, 2013, Nicki became the most charted female rapper on the Hot 100 chart. This is false because Nicki has been the most charted female rapper for a long time now. The only true thing is that she's tied with Mariah. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:826C:E849:B1FE:EEEB:C358:2CB0 (talk) 20:55, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Trinidadian vs. Trinidad.

Where was she born? I'd assume that she was born in Trinidad as the article stipulates she was born to Trinidadians (presumably, 'people from Trinidad'). I think it would make more sense if that line was edited to read "Trinidad-born", as in 'born in Trinidad' rather than 'Trinidadian-born', from which one can only logically infer 'born of Trinidadian(s)'.

Although "Trinidadian-born" suggests that she was born a Trinidad citizen. I know many people who were born in a country, but did not obtain citizenship via birthplace (✉→BWilkins←✎) 15:51, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

There's no such thing as a Trinidadian citizen (in this/that sense anyway), so that's not the issue; the issue in general is how to refer to her by country right at the start of the article (personally I think "Trinidadian-born American" works fine, but that's just me). She was born in Trinidad and Tobago, then moved to the United States of American. In this case it's important to note that she was born on Trinidad, not Tobago (or another island in the country), and obviously also that the demonym for people from the United States is "American". - the 2. of June 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:C440:20:1116:45EE:2C08:90BD:B903 (talk) 04:26, 2 June 2013 (UTC)

The Counselor???

Since The Counselor was just a rumor, it shouldn't be included in the text. People don't need to know about that. The film has nothing to do with Nicki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.38.211.86 (talk) 09:04, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Nicholas Telemaque

Should this event related to Nicki Minaj not be detailed in the article? Also her supposed Illuminati connections perhaps under conspiracy theory or conspiracy theories will help for the sake of education. Please any feedback? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.251.192.77 (talk) 22:13, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 May 2013

DaeDae30 (talk) 03:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

You need to list what you want changed for us to be able to consider the request. —C.Fred (talk) 03:43, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 25 June 2013

Hello, I want you to edit Nicki Minaj's page. This is because where it says, "Origin", Trinidad is not there, she is a trinidadian singer. Please make this edit for me. Thank you. Rainbowstarfish (talk) 00:42, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

•  Not done "Origin" in this case does not refer to where she's born. She was living in Queens when her music originated (✉→BWilkins←✎) 00:45, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

BET Awards

Can you add that she is the FIRST and ONLY female rapper to win FOUR times in a row? You didn't specify how she broke the record. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:30B:826E:3459:248A:358A:62E5:200E (talk) 05:25, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Do you have a source that says she is the only female rapper to win it four times in a row? I don't see that in the article currently cited. —C.Fred (talk) 14:29, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

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If she is the first to do it, then obviously she is the only one.

Edit request on 31 August 2013

Jonathan 17Minaj (talk) 14:57, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. —C.Fred (talk) 15:58, 31 August 2013 (UTC)