Talk:Liu Yan (Xin dynasty)

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Correct pronounciation of 縯

I think the correction pronounciation of 縯 is yǐn, not yan. However, it seemed widely mispronounced as Yan, for some reason. Anyone knows more about this? Snowybeagle (talk) 06:41, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yin is the archaic pronunciation, which is preserved in Cantonese and other dialects. Most modern scholars use the modern pronunciation Yan. -Zanhe (talk) 19:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 6 October 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved to Liu Yan (Xin dynasty). Obviously a consensus to move away from the current title and the best of the two arguments is for "Liu Yan (Xin dynasty)". Jenks24 (talk) 13:21, 6 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Liu Yan (Bosheng) → Liu Bosheng – The point of disambiguation is to not use confusing or hard-to-understand disambiguators, as the current title did. The history book Book of Later Han almost entirely uses his courtesy name "Bosheng" to refer him. If one insists on using his real given name, there's a problem with the character being able to be romanized as either "Yin" or "Yan" (see the section above on this talk page). Even if we disregard this problem, it's hard to find a really good disambiguator. Therefore I think Liu Bosheng is probably the best solution per WP:NATURAL. Timmyshin (talk) 05:38, 6 October 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Natg 19 (talk) 00:43, 14 October 2015 (UTC)--Relisted. Tiggerjay (talk) 06:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Liu Yan (Xin dynasty) - the current disambiguator is not ideal, but the problem with the proposal is that the more common name is Liu Yan, not Liu Bosheng, see Google books: "Liu Yan" "Xin dynasty" = 31, "Liu Bosheng" "Xin dynasty" = 6. But there is a better disambiguator: Liu Yan (Xin dynasty), as the only notable period of his life was during the Xin dynasty, and he was killed before the establishment of Eastern Han. -Zanhe (talk) 19:59, 6 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Commnet Bosheng is a redlink -- 70.51.44.60 (talk) 00:06, 8 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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