Talk:List of tornado emergencies

Reason for move

The Tornado Emergency article was becoming too cluttered with examples of bulletins. Since I believe the issuing of such an emergency as noteworthy, I have spliced out the original article from the list. AStudent (talk) 02:37, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Link update

Both reference links 38 and 39 are dead links... :( 74.12.126.46 (talk) 14:12, 21 February 2011 (UTC) (Thomas)

Fixed with links to IEM. Ks0stm ^(T•C•G) 14:48, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

New information?

A tornado emergency was declared yesterday. Predict where it was issued. 74.12.126.46 (talk) 12:13, 25 February 2011 (UTC) (Thomas)

Parts of Tennesee just southeast of Nashville. I saw it too. I'll put it up, if it hasn't been already. Ks0stm ^(T•C•G) 15:14, 25 February 2011 (UTC)

New information to be posted...

Get ready to post a new tornado emergency possible tomorrow... I have saw a moderate risk again on the storm prediction center's page. 74.12.126.46 (talk) 18:53, 26 February 2011 (UTC) (Thomas)

Dead link...

Yesterday's tornado emergency's 2 sources lead to the NWS website. were I found only the current warnings in progress. The first link led to nothing. Is there any way you can re-direct both sources to IEM? 74.12.126.46 (talk) 15:04, 16 April 2011 (UTC) (Thomas)

Fixed. Weatherstar4000 (talk) 18:22, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Guess what!?

I saw a real tornado emergency today! Really! I saw it! The urgency, the strength, the pressure of the tornadoes... I have absolutely NO idea! 74.12.126.46 (talk) 19:44, 16 April 2011 (UTC) (Thomas)

Large number of locations

With today's outbreak in North Carolina and Virginia, there have been several tornado emergencies issued, most with the initial warning, that list a large number of cities, with some being added or removed in later bulletins. So far I have included all listed cities, but should we use some other approach for this kind of situation in the future? Weatherstar4000 (talk) 20:39, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

see here —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.123.160.123 (talk) 20:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't exactly answer my question. The majority of NWS bulletins issued today are still listing a good amount of cities. Also, some of the bulletins I've seen (i.e. the one near the bottom with the massive cities list) on the NWS site aren't immediately showing up on Iowa Mesonet. Until then, I'm citing the NWS Tornado Warning page as a placeholder Weatherstar4000 (talk) 21:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

More?

Yesterday, I saw two tornado emergencies on my dad's iPhone. 1 of them were relayed like a new Tornado Warning! Do you know were they were issued? I remember one being issued somewhere but I don't know how to spell it (And please no caps). 74.12.126.46 (talk) 10:57, 28 April 2011 (UTC) (Thomas)

There was about 30 tornado emergencies issued yesterday. It will take a bit of work to look through all of the different warnings to collect a list of them all. 24.235.72.105 (talk) 12:19, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Whats going on?

Links 58-66 are confusing me... renaming? 70.50.200.95 (talk) 13:52, 18 June 2011 (UTC) (Thomas)

Oklahoma Outbreak 05/24/2011

There was a very large tornado outbreak on the afternoon and evening of 05/24/2011 in the Oklahoma City metro area. Many articles report the storms, which avoided the city, were rated as EF4s or possibly EF5s.

While driving home many weathermen on the radio were frantically screaming that OKC was experiencing a "tornado emergency." It was an eerily similar experience to the very first Tornado Emergency issued on May 3rd, 1999, which I was here for. Anyway, I would like to add it to the list in the table but I have looked everywhere and cannot find a copy of the severe weather statement for that day. Suggestions? Okguy (talk) 01:32, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

I briefly look at all of the warnings issued for the OKC area and couldn't find any tornado emergencies issued, not even for the EF5 El Reno storm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bugalaman (talk • contribs) 04:46, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

New information to be posted (May 31, 2013)

Tornado emergency in Moore, OK today. I'm not really good at editing wikis, so I figured I'd post this here. If someone would put this up on the page, that would be great. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.216.57.110 (talk) 01:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

Moore was probably the least important city in that tornado emergency. El Reno and Oklahoma City were more in the path, I believe (could still be wrong).

Never mind, it took me about two seconds after posting this to realize that you posted this months ago. Dustin talk 16:33, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

May 3, 1999 Tornado Counties

I read the first tornado emergency's text, and I was wondering, seeing as it says Moore and South Oklahoma City, but never mentions the county it is referencing on the Oklahoma City part, how do you tell whether or not this includes Oklahoma County? It isn't very specific.... I know that that includes Cleveland County though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustin V. S. (talk • contribs) 21:26, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

South OKC is actually in Cleveland County. Oklahoma County is only the main part of OKC. United States Man (talk) 20:42, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

What I mean is they never distinguished how far south a section of Oklahoma City they were warning; the statement you made was only general. There is no distinct definition of how far south the initial alert was, because there was never a very well-defined area. The only county that one can be certain of at the current moment is Cleveland County because of Bridge Creek, but it is not certain how far south a point in Oklahoma City was being referenced, because there was never a specific coordinate, road, or other specific feature given to distinguish the discussed location. Oklahoma County therefore would be a possible location in this Tornado Emergency, not necessarily a certainty, but a possibility. No other counties are even possible apart from these two. Dustin V. S. (talk) 01:45, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

The initial tornado warning did not include Oklahoma County, thus the severe weather statement containing the tornado emergency could not have included Oklahoma County. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 03:21, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

I should also note that Newcastle, Oklahoma is in McClain County and Bridge Creek, Oklahoma in Grady County, both of which are included in the initial tornado warning, so it's quite possible that these areas were included in the tornado emergency message. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 03:25, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

I question the validity of the statement that you have made, considering the fact that this tornado emergency was not issued within the tornado warning. All that aside, I am basing this off of the text of the actual emergency. They were referring to the same tornado, but the tornado emergency was not part of the tornado warning, and was more likely meant to refer to the possible area of uncertainty that they expected the tornado to enter anyway, meaning that they would not have necessarily issued a tornado warning for that area that they might have been considering. I am referring to the direct meaning, not the implied meaning. Dustin talk 20:01, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

October 4, 2013 emergency

There was a tornado emergency in Cherokee, Iowa on October 4- it was on the chart at first so why is it not there anymore? ManhattanSandyFurystorm (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Tornado emergency for northern and northeastern OKC metro, May 9, 2003

Starting shortly after 10:00 P.M., there were Tornado Emergencies for first the northern, then the northeastern Oklahoma City metro. Check here: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/images/oun/wxevents/20030509/eventchronology.pdf This Tornado Emergency is not listed. I would think that the very people who issue them would know, as they posted it on their own website. Dustin talk 16:12, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

There is more information here: http://www.srh.noaa.gov/oun/?n=events-20030509 I would suggest adding this with Oklahoma County. Dustin talk 16:16, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

I noticed this tornado when myself and Cyclonebiskit reconstructed the page. While the first link lists that there was indeed a tornado emergency, it...nor the second source...list the counties involved. For that reason, I opted to leave it out of the list. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 21:58, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

This Tornado Emergency included some cities that are entirely contained within Oklahoma County (e.g. Edmond). This Tornado Emergency should be on the list, but with only Oklahoma County to start. The same thing was done with the first Tornado Emergency right? The National Weather Service didn't actually list the specific counties, so editors of this page just started out by including what they knew must have been included. It would be better to have it this way, right? I am not trying to argue or anything, but there are few other counties that could have been included anyway, considering that the Tornado Emergency wasn't announced until after the tornado had already passed through western parts of the Oklahoma City metropolitan area that were in Canadian County. Dustin talk 21:54, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

I am not going to wait much longer for a reply; if I don't receive any replies soon, I will, as is my right according Wikipedia's policy allowing bold edits that an editor don't believe should be controversial, make these changes. Dustin talk 21:58, 12 February 2014 (UTC)

I am going to make these edits now. Dustin talk 00:25, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

May 31, 2013 Wiley Post Airport

Wiley Post Airport is in Oklahoma City, so why has Oklahoma City been removed from the list of cities included? This is a list of cities, not locations, so if you include cities, then Oklahoma City should be on the list. Dustin talk 22:01, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Now it seems that someone has simply removed Wiley Post Airport. That was not the goal of my issue. I stated that it should be replaced with Oklahoma City, for Wiley Post Airport is in Oklahoma City. All this edit has done is make the list less accurate by neglecting to add/change relevant information. And I have still not received a direct reply. Dustin talk 20:21, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

All I did was remove what was not stated in the emergency. Everything there now is backed up by the source, but everything that was there before was not. United States Man (talk) 00:41, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

I see that you added another warning, so I took every place mentioned in the tornado emergency section from both warnings and made sure that they were on there. You can't just put OKC on there because that is where the airport is. You have to go by what is supported by the sources. Wiley Post Airport, and not Oklahoma City, is supported by the sources. United States Man (talk) 01:12, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

New Tornado Emergency

[1] A new Tornado Emergency is in effect for Floyd, Arkansas. Dustin (talk) 01:09, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Now it's in effect for Thida and Oil Trough (same source). Dustin (talk) 02:04, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

The Tornado Emergency has now ended at 9:15 PM CDT. Dustin (talk) 02:20, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

There are now multiple Tornado Emergencies currently in effect, and I am having trouble keeping up with them. Immediate Notice by the National Weather Service:

• ...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR ATHENS...CARTWRIGHT...ELKMONT...
• ...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR EAST LIMESTONE AND NORTHWEST MADISON COUNTY...

Dustin (talk) 22:24, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Update from the NWS:

• ...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR WESTERN MARION COUNTY...

Dustin (talk) 22:41, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

I am not sure where this could possibly go, or in what article, but a Particularly Dangerous Situation Tornado Warning has been issued:

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR NORTHEASTERN HINDS AND WESTERN MADISON COUNTIES UNTIL 630 PM CDT... AT 611 PM CDT...A CONFIRMED LARGE AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR GLUCKSTADT...AND MOVING NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH. THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. Dustin (talk) 23:19, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

• Dustin: I say PDS warnings could certainly be placed in this article. They seem to have the same function as tornado emergencies to me, just with different wording. I see no reason to consider them separate beasts. —203 02:09, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
  • I stand corrected. After doing some further research, PDS tornado warnings are indeed to be treated separately from tornado emergencies. —203 02:22, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
    • Note this here: "The third and highest level of tornado warning will be reserved for those rare cases in which a known, violent tornado is approaching which is likely to experience devastating damage - events such as Joplin. For these situations, the enhanced wording will include a "TORNADO EMERGENCY" announcement, the recommended action will be brief, clear and extremely urgent (e.g., IF YOU ARE IN OR NEAR LIBERTY...SEEK SHELTER IMMEDIATELY!), and the tag line will read: TORNADO DAMAGE THREAT...CATASTROPHIC." I don't think that all WFOs are using the more restrictive definition nowadays. I'm just making a comment. Dustin (talk) 02:37, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
      • Until we hear official word stating otherwise, it's probably best to say it's a no-go. This seems to be an attempt to (finally) standardize tornado emergencies to some extent by allowing for a middle category where the situation isn't quite dire enough for a tornado emergency but especially dangerous for a tornado warning. I say we respect that attempt until it fails, if it ever does. —203 04:05, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Capitalization

It is appropriate to use the names of the actual warnings because names should be capitalized. The name of the NWS warning for tornadoes is "Tornado Warning", so as a name, it should be capitalized. I have brought it up on multiple users' talk pages. I will link if desired. This is an issue which is plaguing much of Wikipedia. While I am open to good reasoning, the long-standing revision is what should remain prior to a discussion of this sort. I don't want to appear bad over this, but it is not right for revisions to be made which reflect an unreasoned point of view. Dustin (talk) 23:01, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I am aware that the NWS capitalizes the bulletin. I did not create the article. Someone else did. The one who created it chose not to capitalize it.—BDE1982 (talk) 23:09, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Since then, after giving my reasoning, the caps change was made without objection and remained for a decent period of time. That revision is the current long-standing revision. Dustin (talk) 23:12, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I just consider it to be best to use the official warning usage as outlined in NWS documentation. There are reasons for which the actual tornado warning article is at that title with lowercase letters (a discussion may be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Severe weather#Title Capitalization for Watches and Warnings which I hope will clarify the reasons for this). Dustin (talk) 23:15, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Someone needs to change Winter Weather advisory to Winter Weather Advisory, if you think capitalizing every word is absolutely necessary. Dustin, as much as I enjoy editing on Wikipedia, I really do not want you discouraging me from editing here again. Thank you.—BDE1982 (talk) 23:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

You need to stop that. I would not discourage a user from editing unless it was vandalizing. Also, that article should be moved to Winter Weather Advisory. Also, just because other stuff is one way doesn't mean the discussed subject has to follow suit, otherwise there wouldn't be the deletion suggestion WP:OTHERSTUFF (I know this isn't a deletion discussion, it was only an example). Dustin (talk) 23:26, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

I know this is off the subject, but you used a comma splice in your reply. It is not acceptable to use comma splices.—BDE1982 (talk) 23:29, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

See the first two sentences of the section Wikipedia:User talk pages#Others' comments. Dustin (talk) 23:34, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

Dustin, I tried to move the article to Winter Weather Advisory, but it said that I do not have permission. You will have to do it yourself (or have someone else do it).—BDE1982 (talk) 14:28, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't mean to come off bad. It is just important that Wikipedia reflect the actual usage of warnings. The reason that page could not be moved is that there is a redirect at Winter Weather Advisory which has more than one edit. One page can only be moved over another page if the page being moved over has no more than one edit. Dustin (talk) 14:31, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

(This editor was in the page history of Winter weather advisory which is how I came upon it) Is this user you? Dustin (talk) 14:35, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes. That was before I modified my user name.—BDE1982 (talk) 14:38, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay. It's too late and you may already know this by now, but you have the option to request for your name to be changed to preserve all of your contributions together. In any case, not all pages need to be moved, but just like with the names of people, the names of warnings should generally follow the capitalization used in the official usage. I intend to (at some point) bring up a large, multi-move request for several pages which do no follow the in-warning/in-watch usage. Particularly dangerous situation was moved to Particularly Dangerous Situation for that same reason. Dustin (talk) 14:50, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Just don’t leave a lot of redirects behind. Redirects tend to lead to confusion.—BDE1982 (talk) 14:54, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Well, while we usually change the pages that link to redirects to instead link to new titles, we would still usually leave redirects as a result of pages moves and tag them with {{R from move}} and (with these types of page moves) {{R from other capitalisation}}. Dustin (talk) 14:59, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

2015 Tornado Emergency

I am pretty sure the warning for the Rochelle, Illinois tornado was not a tornado emergency, but a PDS tornado warning. With a tornado emergency you should see the exact text on the special weather statement "This is a tornado emergency for __ County", not "This is an emergency situation". --99.248.176.91 (talk) 21:25, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Just ran through all the warnings for the tornado and you are correct, they were PDS warnings. Removed it from the list accordingly. Thanks, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 21:35, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the notification. I had to leave immediately after reading this, but it looks like Cyclonebiskit handled the situation appropriately while I was gone. Dustin (talk) 22:57, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Tornado EMERGENCY in Newcastle and Bridge Creek, Oklahoma, again!Jdcomix (talk) 22:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Expired. Dustin (talk) 22:51, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Expand to include PDS warnings?

Since there seems to be an effort to standardize PDS warnings and phase out the fairly nebulous "emergency" category, should this article be expanded to include PDS warnings as well? --Anonymous Macaw (talk) 00:25, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Is there explicit documentation that the tornado emergencies are being phased out? Otherwise I don't see a reason to include them here. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 00:38, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

New 2018 Tornado Emergency

A tornado emergency was issued a hour or two ago in Marshal, Iowa. I know, we will set it up when damage surveys are complete. Tornadoguy428 (talk) 22:50, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Tornado Emergency in Oronogo, MO

Severe Weather Statement National Weather Service Springfield MO 819 PM CDT Wed May 22 2019

MOC097-230145- /O.CON.KSGF.TO.W.0071.000000T0000Z-190523T0145Z/ Jasper MO- 819 PM CDT Wed May 22 2019

...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR AREAS NEAR ORONOGO...

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 845 PM CDT FOR WESTERN JASPER COUNTY...

At 818 PM CDT, a confirmed large and destructive tornado was located over Oronogo, or near Joplin, moving northeast at 25 mph.

TORNADO EMERGENCY for areas near Oronogo. This is a PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. TAKE COVER NOW!

HAZARD...Deadly tornado.

SOURCE...Radar confirmed tornado.

IMPACT...You are in a life-threatening situation. Flying debris may

        be deadly to those caught without shelter. Mobile homes
        will be destroyed. Considerable damage to homes,
        businesses, and vehicles is likely and complete destruction
        is possible.

Locations impacted include... Northern Joplin... Carthage... Webb City... Carl Junction... Oronogo... Carterville... Airport Drive... Alba... Purcell... Carytown... Brooklyn Heights...

This includes Interstate 49 between mile markers 40 and 44.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

To repeat, a large, extremely dangerous, and potentially deadly tornado is on the ground. To protect your life, TAKE COVER NOW! Move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If in a mobile home, a vehicle or outdoors, move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris.

&&

LAT...LON 3714 9454 3719 9454 3730 9434 3712 9432 TIME...MOT...LOC 0118Z 242DEG 23KT 3718 9450

TORNADO...OBSERVED TORNADO DAMAGE THREAT...CATASTROPHIC HAIL...2.50IN

$$

Schaumann

--RSVBibleReader52738 (talk) 01:23, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Tornado Emergency in Douglas County, Kansas

Tornado Warning KSC045-290000- /O.NEW.KTOP.TO.W.0025.190528T2318Z-190529T0000Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED Tornado Warning National Weather Service Topeka KS 618 PM CDT Tue May 28 2019

...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR southeast Lawrence and Eudora...

The National Weather Service in Topeka has issued a

• Tornado Warning for...

 East central Douglas County in east central Kansas...

• Until 700 PM CDT.

• At 616 PM CDT, a confirmed large and destructive tornado was

 observed near Pleasant Grove, moving northeast at 30 mph.

 TORNADO EMERGENCY for southeast Lawrence and Eudora. This is a

PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. TAKE COVER NOW!

 HAZARD...Deadly tornado.

 SOURCE...Radar confirmed tornado.

 IMPACT...You are in a life-threatening situation. Flying debris
          may be deadly to those caught without shelter. Mobile
          homes will be destroyed. Considerable damage to homes,
          businesses, and vehicles is likely and complete
          destruction is possible.

• The tornado will be near...

 Southern Lawrence around 620 PM CDT.
 Eudora around 635 PM CDT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

To repeat, a large, extremely dangerous and potentially deadly tornado is on the ground. To protect your life, TAKE COVER NOW! Move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If in a mobile home, a vehicle or outdoors.. Move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris.

&&

LAT...LON 3883 9531 3893 9534 3899 9519 3897 9519

     3896 9518 3896 9517 3898 9516 3897 9513
     3897 9511 3895 9509 3896 9508 3898 9508
     3899 9506 3888 9506

TIME...MOT...LOC 2316Z 241DEG 27KT 3888 9527

TORNADO...OBSERVED TORNADO DAMAGE THREAT...CATASTROPHIC HAIL...1.50IN

$$

Baerg

--RSVBibleReader52738 (talk) 23:22, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Tornado Emergency in Kansas City, Kansas area

Tornado Warning KSC091-103-209-290015- /O.NEW.KEAX.TO.W.0022.190528T2333Z-190529T0015Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED Tornado Warning National Weather Service Kansas City/Pleasant Hill MO 633 PM CDT Tue May 28 2019

...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR northern Johnson, Wyandotte, and southern Leavenworth Counties...

The National Weather Service in Pleasant Hill has issued a

• Tornado Warning for...

 Wyandotte County in northeastern Kansas...
 Southern Leavenworth County in northeastern Kansas...
 Northwestern Johnson County in east central Kansas...

• Until 715 PM CDT.

• At 631 PM CDT, a confirmed large and destructive tornado was

 observed over Eudora, or 7 miles east of Lawrence, moving northeast
 at 45 mph.

 TORNADO EMERGENCY for northern Johnson, Wyandotte, and southern

Leavenworth Counties. This is a PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. TAKE COVER NOW!

 HAZARD...Deadly tornado.

 SOURCE...Emergency Management confirmed tornado.

 IMPACT...You are in a life-threatening situation. Flying debris
          may be deadly to those caught without shelter. Mobile
          homes will be destroyed. Considerable damage to homes,
          businesses, and vehicles is likely and complete
          destruction is possible.

• Locations impacted include...

 Shawnee, Lenexa, Merriam, Mission, Bonner Springs, De Soto,
 Parkville, Basehor, Edwardsville, Lake Quivira, Kansas City Kansas,
 Kansas City, Linwood, Reno, Wolcott, Pomeroy, Holliday, Clearview
 City, Muncie and Beverly Hills.

This includes the following highways...

Interstate 70 in Missouri between mile markers 0 and 1.
Interstate 70 in Kansas between mile markers 410 and 423.
Interstate 35 in Missouri near mile marker 0.
Interstate 35 in Kansas between mile markers 230 and 231, and

between mile markers 233 and 235.

Interstate 635 between mile markers 1 and 8.
Interstate 435 between mile markers 6 and 20.
Kansas Turnpike between mile markers 206 and 226.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

To repeat, a large, extremely dangerous and potentially deadly tornado is on the ground. To protect your life, TAKE COVER NOW! Move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If in a mobile home, a vehicle or outdoors.. Move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris.

Heavy rainfall may hide this tornado. Do not wait to see or hear the tornado. TAKE COVER NOW!

A large and extremely dangerous tornado is on the ground. Take immediate tornado precautions. This is an emergency situation.

&&

LAT...LON 3922 9483 3921 9478 3917 9475 3917 9472

     3919 9468 3915 9466 3915 9459 3906 9461
     3892 9505 3899 9507 3898 9509 3896 9508
     3898 9516 3896 9517 3897 9519 3904 9519

TIME...MOT...LOC 2331Z 239DEG 37KT 3897 9512

TORNADO...OBSERVED TORNADO DAMAGE THREAT...CATASTROPHIC HAIL...1.75IN

$$

Barham — Preceding unsigned comment added by RSVBibleReader52738 (talk • contribs) 23:45, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Breaking up the chart

As more tornado emergencies are documented in this article, should we consider splitting up the chart for ease of editing? For example, could we have one chart for all tornado emergencies issued from 1999-2009, and another chart for tornado emergencies issued from 2010-2019? And then should we begin a chart starting next year for tornado emergencies issued for the decade of the 2020s? Something to ponder... --RSVBibleReader52738 (talk) 23:06, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Tornado Emergencies in Mississippi

Covington County, MS

Severe Weather Statement National Weather Service Jackson MS 426 PM CDT Sun Apr 12 2020

MSC031-122145- /O.CON.KJAN.TO.W.0033.000000T0000Z-200412T2145Z/ Covington MS- 426 PM CDT Sun Apr 12 2020

...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR LOCATIONS IN THE WARNED AREA...

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 445 PM CDT FOR SOUTHERN COVINGTON COUNTY...

At 426 PM CDT, a confirmed large and destructive tornado was located near Collins, moving northeast at 55 mph.

TORNADO EMERGENCY for locations in the warned area. This is a PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. TAKE COVER NOW!

HAZARD...Deadly tornado.

SOURCE...Radar confirmed tornado.

IMPACT...You are in a life-threatening situation. Flying debris may

        be deadly to those caught without shelter. Mobile homes
        will be destroyed. Considerable damage to homes,
        businesses, and vehicles is likely and complete destruction
        is possible.

The tornado will be near...

 Collins around 430 PM CDT.

Other locations impacted by this tornadic thunderstorm include Seminary.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

To repeat, a large, extremely dangerous, and potentially deadly tornado is on the ground. To protect your life, TAKE COVER NOW! Move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If in a mobile home, a vehicle or outdoors, move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris.

&&

LAT...LON 3151 8959 3151 8960 3154 8960 3156 8964

     3157 8967 3160 8972 3175 8940 3152 8940
     3147 8959

TIME...MOT...LOC 2126Z 240DEG 48KT 3156 8959

TORNADO...OBSERVED TORNADO DAMAGE THREAT...CATASTROPHIC HAIL...1.00IN

Jasper & Jones Counties

Tornado Warning MSC061-067-122230- /O.NEW.KJAN.TO.W.0035.200412T2128Z-200412T2230Z/

BULLETIN - EAS ACTIVATION REQUESTED Tornado Warning National Weather Service Jackson MS 428 PM CDT Sun Apr 12 2020

...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR LOCATIONS IN THE WARNED AREA...

The National Weather Service in Jackson has issued a

• Tornado Warning for...

 Southeastern Jasper County in east central Mississippi...
 Jones County in southeastern Mississippi...

• Until 530 PM CDT.

• At 428 PM CDT, a confirmed large and destructive tornado was

 observed near Collins, moving northeast at 50 mph.

 TORNADO EMERGENCY for locations in the warned area.
 THIS IS A PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. TAKE COVER NOW!

 HAZARD...Deadly tornado.

 SOURCE...Radar confirmed tornado.

 IMPACT...You are in a life-threatening situation. Flying debris
          may be deadly to those caught without shelter. Mobile
          homes will be destroyed. Considerable damage to homes,
          businesses, and vehicles is likely and complete
          destruction is possible.

• The tornado will be near...

 Hebron around 445 PM CDT.
 Moss around 500 PM CDT.
 Sandersville around 510 PM CDT.
 Heidelberg around 515 PM CDT.
 Stafford Springs around 520 PM CDT.

Other locations impacted by this tornadic thunderstorm include Soso.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

To repeat, a large, extremely dangerous and potentially deadly tornado is on the ground. To protect your life, TAKE COVER NOW! Move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If in a mobile home, a vehicle or outdoors.. Move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris.

&&

LAT...LON 3182 8894 3162 8894 3152 8940 3175 8940

     3198 8891 3183 8891

TIME...MOT...LOC 2128Z 241DEG 44KT 3157 8957

TORNADO...OBSERVED TORNADO DAMAGE THREAT...CATASTROPHIC HAIL...1.00IN

$$

TW

Jefferson Davis County

Severe Weather Statement National Weather Service Jackson MS 451 PM CDT Sun Apr 12 2020

MSC065-122215- /O.CON.KJAN.TO.W.0034.000000T0000Z-200412T2215Z/ Jefferson Davis MS- 451 PM CDT Sun Apr 12 2020

...TORNADO EMERGENCY FOR LOCATIONS IN THE WARNED AREA...

...A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 515 PM CDT FOR WESTERN JEFFERSON DAVIS COUNTY...

At 450 PM CDT, a confirmed large and destructive tornado was located over Progress, or 17 miles north of Columbia, moving northeast at 50 mph.

TORNADO EMERGENCY for locations in the warned area. This is a PARTICULARLY DANGEROUS SITUATION. TAKE COVER NOW!

HAZARD...Deadly tornado.

SOURCE...Radar confirmed tornado.

IMPACT...You are in a life-threatening situation. Flying debris may

        be deadly to those caught without shelter. Mobile homes
        will be destroyed. Considerable damage to homes,
        businesses, and vehicles is likely and complete destruction
        is possible.

The tornado will be near...

 Prentiss and Carson around 500 PM CDT.
 Clem around 510 PM CDT.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

To repeat, a large, extremely dangerous, and potentially deadly tornado is on the ground. To protect your life, TAKE COVER NOW! Move to an interior room on the lowest floor of a sturdy building. Avoid windows. If in a mobile home, a vehicle or outdoors, move to the closest substantial shelter and protect yourself from flying debris.

&&

LAT...LON 3152 8996 3152 8998 3161 8997 3177 8976

     3162 8976 3157 8968 3144 8989 3144 8996

TIME...MOT...LOC 2150Z 230DEG 45KT 3149 8994

TORNADO...OBSERVED TORNADO DAMAGE THREAT...CATASTROPHIC HAIL...<.75IN

$$

TW — Preceding unsigned comment added by RSVBibleReader52738 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 12 April 2020 (UTC)

I was reading this article and I realized that only the second EF4 on April 12th in MS was stated to have prompted a Tornado Emergency. If I'm not mistaken, didn't both have a tornado emergency on them? The first tornado emergency was declared for the first tornado but quickly dissipated after being issued but the continued the warning. But then the second more powerful EF4 developed and was still in the warning and they issued more as the storm continued. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure they both had TE's on them. Kade Ydstie45 (talk) 19:40, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kade Ydstie45: That's correct.ChessEric (talk) 23:20, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Jasper and Fort Polk emergencies

These were probably the same tornado, but far apart and not the same emergency. How should they be listed, assuming they are the same tornado? — Preceding unsigned comment added by YellowSkarmory (talk • contribs) 04:19, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

It appears that other tornadoes which prompted successive tornado emergencies are each given a single entry. If this was one tornado, we should do the same for this one TornadoLGS (talk) 04:59, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I just made the change myself. The EF2 fell under both emergencies, but the Jasper, TX tornado emergency was originally for the EF3, which was still on the ground at the time of the issuance. ChessEric (talk) 21:37, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

The warning for Jasper was issued at 7:08 pm. The EF3 lifted at 6:15 pm. An EF2 was produced inside the Jasper warning at 7:28 pm. It continued into Vernon Parish, where the Fort Polk emergency was issued at 8:15 pm. The tornado then lifted at 8:19. Also, the EF3 from April 12 caused no deaths, so don't put Unknown. That implies something different. United States Man (talk) 21:46, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Oh shoot, I just glanced at the times and thought it was under the same hour. My bad! ChessEric (talk) 21:49, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

You're fine! I would like to find a way to rowspan the EF2 color since it was the same one. I'm not sure how to do that. United States Man (talk) 21:53, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

By the way, are we going by the amount of tornado emergencies issued or tornadoes within the emergency? ChessEric (talk) 21:57, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

I was just thinking about the counting myself. Sometimes multiple tornadoes come from one emergency and sometimes multiple emergencies are issued for one tornado. TornadoLGS and Cyclonebiskit, do you have any ideas? United States Man (talk) 22:02, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

It's tricky when we include the associated tornadoes. We either consolidate all the emergencies by tornado, or separate them and create redundant tornado listings. The simple remedy would be to only list the warnings (removing the confirmed tornadoes) and have them separated, maybe with a column indicating if it's a continuation of a prior emergency. However, I don't think removing the relevant tornadoes would be as helpful to readers. It's dependent on the information we want to prioritize. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 00:11, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I had a thought. Maybe the article should listed as "List of tornadoes within tornado emergencies." That way we can eliminate the confusion and count just the tornadoes. For me, I had been listing the tornadoes based on 3 things: (1) did a tornado touch down within the emergency area, (2) how many tornadoes touched down within the timeframe of the emergency (which is why, for example, there are now 3 tornadoes listed under the Greensburg event), & (3) how many emergencies did the tornado or tornadoes have (a tornado with multiple emergencies, like the 2000 Fort Worth tornado, was listed as 1 event while a tornado family with 1 emergency, like the 2008 Jackson area tornadoes was listed as 2 events). So I had been listing the events based on number of tornadoes. The only problem is that some emergencies didn't even have tornadoes, but those can go under unconfirmed.ChessEric (talk) 00:53, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Also, please read my comments below. ChessEric (talk) 01:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Looking at the table, I don't think we should necessarily include all tornadoes that occurred within the tornado emergency.In the case of the Greensburg example mentioned by ChessEric, the other two tornadoes in the warned area were small satellites, clearly not the ones which prompted the tornado emergency. I don't think satellite tornadoes should be included, though we could include a note for tornadoes that had satellites. For successive members of a tornado family, perhaps later members should be included if the tornado emergency was continued under the same warning. TornadoLGS (talk) 03:41, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Clean up article and new name

I have informed Cyclonebiskit that I'm doing a large-scale cleaning and reorganizing of this article. Although I'm not officially a part of the group, I'd asked that you inform me of rating changes and new tornado emergencies so that I can line them up with the progress page I have made. It is going to be a long endeavor, but I have already added 24 new tornadoes/emergencies (excluding the past 2) and will work hard to find the others. Thanks for your patience. ChessEric (talk) 21:47, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Since it appears to be a hot topic, I decided to add it. We should reevaluate what we want this page to be. I'm for changing the name of the article "List of tornadoes within tornado emergencies" and counting by tornadoes, because it would be much harder to count emergencies in comparison to the tornadoes confirmed. Another option is that we can state the number of tornado emergencies at the top while making the tornado chart separate from it. This is just a thought, but I'd love to hear your feedback. Once again, I know this article is of low importance, but I will dedicate my time to fixing it up so that readers can see the distributions of tornadoes within tornado emergencies. ChessEric (talk) 01:50, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I think doing what you're describing would put more emphasis on the tornadoes and less on the "emergencies." This page is supposed to be about the emergencies. We could just get rid of the totals table altogether and just state how many emergencies have been issued, how many resulted in no tornadoes, etc. United States Man (talk) 02:09, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I like that idea even better! Definitely some merit behind that. However, wouldn't that require a complete removal of the tornadoes that are listed? Also, there are still a TON of emergencies that are still missing. Prior to May 23, 2011, there were 143 tornado emergencies. This will take alot work.ChessEric (talk) 02:24, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

No you don't have to remove mention of the confirmed tornadoes from the table. You just don't have to keep a running total in a "total table" or keep updating a number of how many have been confirmed. Just keep them in the table as sort of a "what happened with this emergency" thing. That would get rid of the problem of total emergencies vs. total tornadoes. Then, like I said, you could just keep count of how many emergencies have been issued without having to worry about counting tornadoes. United States Man (talk) 02:31, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

...that would actually kinda suck. Check this out: https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:ChessEric/Emergencies ChessEric (talk) 02:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Exactly what you have there, except get rid of the totals table at the stop and just tell in a couple sentences about number of emergencies, number issued without a confirmed tornado, etc. Just stop keeping track of how many EF0s, EF1s, etc. Why would that suck? United States Man (talk) 03:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I've put in alot of time to add in those tornadoes and was dedicated every tornado! LOL! Can explain a little about what exactly you want me to do?ChessEric (talk) 03:24, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Can I edit your page to show you? It's simpler than you think I believe. United States Man (talk) 03:35, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Sure. Go ahead.ChessEric (talk) 03:43, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I made a couple changes. See if you like them. You may also want to work with <br> to break those references into separate rows to keep that column from expanding wider. United States Man (talk) 05:29, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

You are an absolute genius. That makes a whole lot more sense! I'm going to have to change the table because some of the emergencies were issued more than once for the same tornado, but that's a good start! Before I confirm though, TornadoInformation12, Cyclonebiskit, TornadoLGS, and TropicalAnalystwx13. I want you to go to my progress page (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:ChessEric/Emergencies) and look at the new way we propose this page to be written. I can make this project high importance for me and me only while you guys work on other things. Thanks for all your help @United States Man:!ChessEric (talk) 13:30, 27 April 2020 (UTC) @TornadoInformation12:@Cyclonebiskit:@TornadoLGS:@TropicalAnalystwx13:. I want you to go to my progress page (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/User:ChessEric/Emergencies) and look at the new way we propose this page to be written. Once its approved, I will go ahead and change the format.ChessEric (talk) 22:58, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm sort of multitasking right night now, but I am a bit confused, since a few tornadoes are listed under the same emergency even though it appears that there were separate warnings issued (e.g. the Fort Worth and Arlington tornadoes). See also my comment in the section above; I'm not sure satellite tornadoes should be included if they are not the ones that prompted the tornado emergency (e.g. the two satellites to the Greensburg tornado), though I can understand if excluding them could be an WP:OR issue. TornadoLGS (talk) 23:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

@TornadoLGS:Actually, the tornado emergency was never issued for Arlington. The tornado emergencies for Fort Worth are for the same tornadoes. As far as the satellite tornadoes, I'm usually a person that likes to include everything, but I can see the justification in getting rid of the satellite tornadoes. Lets see what the others have to say about it.ChessEric (talk) 00:06, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

bug?

The sort on this page does not work properly for some reason. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0w0 catt0s (talk • contribs) 23:28, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

@0w0 catt0s: It must have been something I did when I was working on improvements. I'll look into it.ChessEric (talk) 02:25, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@0w0 catt0s: I just realized that the problem is that I took all the "sorts" out the table. I will fix that eventually.ChessEric (talk) 02:35, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

March 31

There were 5 Tornado Emergencies on March 31, but only 4 are on this page. 2603:80A0:1100:1380:1CF3:8A62:352A:F7C3 (talk) 04:21, 19 June 2023 (UTC)

Need an article for flash flood emergencies

They are equally rare. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:D81D:A7C7:7489:7A9E (talk) 22:19, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

@2601:5C5:4201:68B0:D81D:A7C7:7489:7A9E, you would have to check with the primary people on Wikipedia:WikiProject Weather. As far as I'm aware, flash flood emergencies are more common than tornado emergencies (with a flash flood emergency to tornado emergency ratio of 665:296, or more than twice as common).

If your suggestion does get more attention, I wish the best of luck to you; you would need to compile over 660 entries from the Iowa Mesonet Website.

On the other hand, if you are the same IP user as the one on a previous discussion, the lower amount of entries for a PDS watch article would be easier to achieve if you get the support (<160 as of May 7).

As a IP user, support from registered users is key. 2601:2C1:8B80:349F:4A93:1681:C693:D291 (talk) 00:44, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

I am in fact the same IP user that suggested an article for PDS watches. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:B0CF:B19:B7BB:4811 (talk) 20:37, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

The occurrence of Flash Flood Emergencies is still extremely rare. Might be twice as common as Tornado Emergencies because often times, multiple such alerts are issued per event. The actual events that cause a Flash Flood Emergency typically only occur a handful of times per year across the whole country. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:B0CF:B19:B7BB:4811 (talk) 20:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

• Community consensus has ruled that a "List of flash flood emergency" articles is not needed on Wikipedia. Therefore, a new discussion with a clear consensus for an article is required before an article could be created. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 20:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

  You mean there was such a debate last year? And you mean there was a list like that and they deleted it? 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:B0CF:B19:B7BB:4811 (talk) 20:40, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

  I had absolutely no idea of that. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:B0CF:B19:B7BB:4811 (talk) 20:41, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

  Still (on a somewhat unrelated note) support the idea of a list of PDS watches. See other discussion. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:B0CF:B19:B7BB:4811 (talk) 20:43, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

  I officially withdraw my suggestion for a list of flash flood emergencies. But I think an article about the alert itself (if one doesn’t already exist) is needed. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:B0CF:B19:B7BB:4811 (talk) 20:46, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Virginia

Has there been an unofficial tornado emergency issued in the state of Virginia? 98.166.157.182 (talk) 02:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Not that I know of. 2601:5C5:4201:68B0:B0CF:B19:B7BB:4811 (talk) 20:36, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Still considered unofficial?

"Since its initial usage in May 1999, the National Weather Service (NWS) in the United States has used the tornado emergency bulletin, an unofficial, high-end classification of tornado warning"

Seeing as there have been over 300 issued, and that internal deliberation about the usage of Tornado Emergencies have refined their use over the years, are they still be considered unofficial? GeorgeMemulous (talk) 02:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

In my opinion, this should no longer be unofficial, as it is present in NOAA's official weather glossary and on NWS/NOAA's official tornado safety page. Wildfireupdateman (talk) 19:13, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

I discovered between me posting this and today that the Tornado Emergency is official as part of the new impact-based warning system (the one that also includes 'considerable' and 'destructive' severe weather tags). Departure– (talk) 20:00, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Requested move 19 November 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:15, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

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List of United States tornado emergencies → List of tornado emergencies – I don't believe a tornado emergency has been issued for areas outside of the United States, so the "United States" is unnecessary. If a tornado emergency has been issued outside of the US, then the list can still just be "List of tornado emergencies" with an extra section for non-US emergencies. E_F⁵ 13:34, 19 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 22:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Support until a source can be found proving that tornado emergency is a term used outside of the United States in a context worthy of disambiguating the page like this. Departure– (talk) 14:12, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Severe weather and WikiProject Weather have been notified of this discussion. Raladic (talk) 22:38, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Oppose The scope of this article is specific to the United States. Of course tornadoes have caused emergencies elsewhere. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:35, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

@Pppery: Do you know what a "tornado emergency" is? It's a type of tornado warning, not disaster. They do sound similar, I'll give you that. :) E_F⁵ 02:30, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

OpposeSupport (Changed after discussion below) I think it makes sense to keep this U.S. specific. Per WP:Naming conventions (country-specific topics), the most appropriate name would probably be "List of tornado emergencies in the United States". Stonkaments (talk) 05:16, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

That's the thing, this isn't U.S.-specific. The NWS is the only service in the world that issues TOREs, so the country isn't needed. E_F⁵ 17:55, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

That's another point I'll make in support of this. There have indeed been emergencies for tornadoes worldwide, but a list of worldwide emergency statuses for tornadoes would be hopelessly large and clear listcruft, holding an EF1 in a big city to the same regard as an EF5 wiping a town off the map. The term "Tornado emergency" as it pertains to this list is clearly explained in the lede and on the page Tornado emergency and there are no clear equivalents in other countries, nor reasonable disambiguators needed. Departure– (talk) 17:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow–tornado emergencies are only issued in the U.S., so isn't the article U.S.-specific? Stonkaments (talk) 18:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I believe the logic is that the list is US specific, however there is no obvious place to disambiguate it in the title, much like how a notable American-exclusive restaurant chain wouldn't need to have (United States) in it's title. There's no confusion as to what it refers to, especially when it's described in the lede. Departure– (talk) 18:04, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

I'll also note that the official name of the product is "Tornado emergency" instead of "United States tornado emergency" or any variant of that. Wikipedia is as far as I know the only source that specifies "United States" when referring to the topic, and that's only on this page. Tornado emergency got away without a disambiguator so I don't see why this needs one. Departure– (talk) 18:08, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, that makes sense. I'm changing my !vote to support. Stonkaments (talk) 18:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

See also Tornado emergency, they're issued a few times a year and usually garner media attention due to their rarity. :) E_F⁵ 18:15, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

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