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Songs chart

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Shouldn't these list be renamed to "songs" instead of "singles"? They haven't been true singles charts for years. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 21:13, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: I agree it should be renamed as "songs" rather than "singles", and applied to all the articles about the Hot 100 number- one and top-ten lists since 1998, when Billboard changed their methodology for the chart (on December 5 of that year) to include album cuts and other titles which had no commercial single available. Plus, with today's technology, how likely is it to find an actual "single", whether it be those vinyl 45 rpm records, cassettes or CDs? While it may be true that they may still distinguish that with the streaming/download services, it's still songs that are listed on the Hot 100. Regarding the article name changes, however, I'd leave the original names of these articles as redirects. MPFitz1968 (talk) 19:08, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@MPFitz1968: I know I let this fizzle out, but if I were to request a name change for this and other Hot 100 lists to "List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one songs of XXXX", would you be in agreement to start from List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles of 1999? StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:13, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars: Yes, as long as we retain the existing article space entries, with the word "singles", as redirects. Beyond 2020, the article titles will continue to use the word "songs" (e.g., "List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one songs of 2021") without a corresponding "singles" redirect, though I wouldn't object to someone putting in a "singles" redirect (to be decided for individual years, should editors continue to be confused, at that time, about the change in convention). Should we also do this for the Hot 100 "top-ten" lists starting with 1999, and decade number-ones (like "List of Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles of the 2020s") from the 2000s on? MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:15, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also seeing "singles" with the year-end lists ("Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of XXXX"). "Songs" would be appropriate there, too, post-1998. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:19, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
We could also go with a more generic name for all lists with "List of Billboard Hot 100 number ones of 2020" (with continued redirects for "singles" and "songs"). I believe it is still self-explanatory as to what each list encompasses. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Release of The Box

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How can The Box be there since January 18 even though it was released February 28? --Jobu0101 (talk) 17:06, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jobu0101: Up until a few days ago - on Tuesday (March 3, 2020) - the article for the song was showing December 6, 2019, as the release date. That was for the audio-only version of the video. Billboard takes into account streaming, including YouTube and Vevo, as part of compiling the Hot 100 each week. From what I'm reading at the article, February 28, 2020, was the release date of the single. MPFitz1968 (talk) 17:30, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 August 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. I will moved the pages in a few hours, after properly configuring AWB. Regards, —usernamekiran (talk) 13:13, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]


– The Hot 100 has been a song chart since December 1998. Trying to avoid any specific nomenclature based on the time frame ("singles" or "songs"), I thought this convention could be used for all the similarly-named Hot 100 lists going back to the first full year of the chart in 1959. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:35, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per earlier discussion on this talk page under "Songs chart". While I was okay with changing "singles" to "songs" as well in the articles' titles, having it as simply "List of Billboard Hot 100 number ones of XXXX" still describes the list accurately, identifying each number one (single or song) during the year XXXX. MPFitz1968 (talk) 23:43, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom, and good luck to the closer.--Ortizesp (talk) 03:58, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I know airplay has always been included on the chart but I don't think songs charted if there was no physical single release before 1998 in the united states "Don't Speak" was one that was not allowed because it was not released as a physical single but got a lot of airplay therefore only singles were in the chart.I do support changing from 1998 to present.DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 12:15, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A commercially-available single had to have been released to be eligible to chart on the Hot 100 prior to December 1998. I proposed the name without either "song" or "single" in the title to maintain a consistent convention rather than using "songs" for lists after 1998. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:34, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I Must of misread what you was proposing I thought it was a change from singles - song I fully support List of number ones in the title. DanTheMusicMan2 (talk) 18:09, 6 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Accuracy and precision should be prioritized over consistency. The yearly (and decade-spanning) Hot 100 lists corresponding to 1998 and later should be renamed from "singles" to "songs", as was proposed in an earlier discussion, while the remaining articles retain their existing titles. LifeofTau 18:36, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per nom. The chart name is already mentioned before "singles" or "songs" is, so it's kind of redundant at this point. I think "Billboard Hot 100 number one" is pretty much understood in the general public to be the same as "Billboard Hot 100 number one song" or something. And the fact that "singles" is not accurate for post-1998 lists. Heartfox (talk) 19:58, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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