Talk:Liberation of Peter

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January 6, 2011	Good article nominee	Not listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Liberation of Saint Peter (pictured) has been described as a recapitulation of the resurrection of Jesus?

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Text and/or other creative content from this version of St. Peter ad Vincula was copied or moved into Liberation of Saint Peter with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Merge discussion

St. Peter ad Vincula does not follow the standard format of a disambiguation page. This article (Liberation of Saint Peter) appears to be the primary topic for the term, and much of the material on St. Peter ad Vincula is covered here in more detail. I propose merging in any content about the festival and relics which is not already covered, and only those churches which have articles. St. Peter ad Vincula (now only containing entries which follow the normal rules for disambiguation pages) should then be moved to St. Peter ad Vincula (disambiguation), and the resulting redirect at St. Peter ad Vincula should be pointed to Liberation of Saint Peter, as the primary topic. Nick Number (talk) 19:14, 27 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tricky one. If I see "St Peter in Chains" or "San Pietro ad Vincula" or the like, my first thought is always the church San Pietro in Vincoli, in Rome - and I'm not RC. It contains a major work of art.

As I see it - the current DAB page is a mishmash. The Biblical story deserves its own article, for all sorts of obvious reasons.

IMO - San Pietro in Vincoli and Liberation of Saint Peter are both primary topics, and should be identified as such in St. Peter ad Vincula or suchlike. That page contains all sorts of stuff which belongs elsewhere and not on a DAB page and which should be moved out. That said, St. Peter ad Vincula (or, a better name like e.g. St Peter in chains) looks like a major DAB page. Several of the churches have their own English articles, and I'm guessing that several more have their own articles in other-language Wikis. Narky Blert (talk) 23:06, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm the one making a mess of the current disambiguation page. I struggled with this as I started adding to the St Peter ad Vincula (SPaV) article, as I share things from my core research. The right thing to do here is to make SPaV a Primary Topic and not a disambiguation page. I wasn't sure the technical details of doing so when I started the additions. I don't see SPaV and the Liberation of Peter being one in the same. For one, the main relic is only partially related to the Liberation of St Peter -- traditionally having been combined from two stories (Peter's liberation in Jerusalem and imprisonment in Rome). Secondly, the Liberation of St Peter is a miracle story; various people associate it with Peter's "resurrection" and his relation to Christ and Heaven. The relic (SPaV), the foundations and related topics are most often associated with the Pope and expressions of influence (starting with the foundation of the church in Rome, distribution of the relic, etc). In fact in many depictions of the Liberation of St Peter, no chains (Vincula) are represented. Suggested solution: we make SPaV or St Peter in Chains a main article and the various current groupings (e.g., foundations, relic dispersion, etc.) could become subpages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Argvee (talk • contribs) 02:14, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Given the above, I've moved some material from the St. Peter ad Vincula to here, and edited St. Peter ad Vincula to more closely fit the usual dab structure. Klbrain (talk) 16:33, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 17 May 2019

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved as proposed. I note that the outcome of the referenced discussion at Talk:Saint Peter does not impact this outcome, as none of these titles are ambiguous non-primary topics requiring disambiguation terms. As noted, the target titles are consistent with numerous other subtopic articles on the same subject. bd2412 T 16:30, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

– Per consistency with RM result‎ Talk:Primacy of Peter, Confession of Peter, Denial of Peter, Restoration of Peter, Healing the mother of Peter's wife, Peter's vision of a sheet with animals and also Template:Peter. also per WP:COMMONNAME, WP:HONORIFIC, WP:NPOV and WP:RS. In ictu oculi (talk) 19:43, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 00:04, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Should the outcome of this rename request wait for the closing of the concurrent request at Talk:Saint Peter? PPEMES (talk) 18:53, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Probably best. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 19:14, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see why. Even if that remains a sore thumb against book sources this could still be fixed like all the other Talk:Primacy of Peter, Confession of Peter, Denial of Peter, Restoration of Peter, Healing the mother of Peter's wife, Peter's vision of a sheet with animals articles, there's no case here for "Saint Peter" and no one is opposing. Let's get on with it. In ictu oculi (talk) 05:52, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. St Anselm (talk) 11:13, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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