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Infobox photo

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Hello, which option do people want for the photo:

Option A from 2023 Option B from 2011 something else option C

TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:17, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer B TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
adding reasons - from the height of his fame as part of 1D, he's in the middle of singing which is what he's known for, I think the quality is fine, better than 2023 TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:37, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree with option B for the same reasons – most relevant to his profession, most representative of his career (especially for the page of a deceased person), and it is of decent quality. If not that, though, I think A is a better 2nd option than D. Afddiary (talk) 01:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
C - There was one from 2016 Payne 2014.jpg I think is better, the 2011 one isn't great quality. orangesclub 🍊 00:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ok I'll add Option D from 2014 (file named wrong) TheLoyalOrder (talk) 00:29, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I prefer this one (Option D)! Ilanthress (talk) 01:02, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I support Option D or another high quality image from WikiMedia Category:Liam Payne in 2014 as this more accurately reflects him when he had higher notoriety. -Gimelthedog (talk) 09:47, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Option D for these reasons. It's (albeit rather subjectively) his most recognisable appearance to a general audience. I can understand the pushback against it though. Ilanthress (talk) 11:56, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support option B, with second preference to option A. Agree completely with Afddiary above; I do not think Option D looks like him either at the height of his career nor what he looked like at his death.. after the 2014 pic was taken, he had significant plastic surgery & weight loss, so it strikes me as a poor choice. FlipandFlopped 03:03, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say B as well. It's a bit of a dark (lighting wise) image, but it represents what he's known for better. I prefer A over D as a second choice. Changing to E or B. AkiyamaKana (talk) 03:05, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Alright I am just finding out that for infoboxes, people need to vote before making edits and I'll be considerate of that from now on. I think Option B is the better choice! Clammodest (talk) 05:06, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
> Alright I am just finding out that for infoboxes, people need to vote before making edits
its not always the case its just multiple people had different opinions on what would be best, no worries :) TheLoyalOrder (talk) 05:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Option A I completely agree w/ the rationale for option B and normally I'd be in favor of it, but the quality isn't the best, it's too shadowy whereas Option A has the best quality, isn't too obscuring and you could actually see Payne fairly well. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 07:34, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I support Option B. It's common for Wikipedia articles to display a photo of a deceased notable person of when they were most notable and recognizable, Option B shows Liam Payne at his most known stage. Bnwkr (talk) 10:15, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Option A is clearer in my opinion. Mb2437 (talk) 16:57, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I propose two possible alternatives to the suggested A,B,and D:
E: from 2014, good quality close up and from 1D days
F: (probably a cropped version) from 2013, good quality of him singing from 1D days Mason7512 (talk) 20:11, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
E isn't a bad shout. Mb2437 (talk) 20:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah E looks to be the better one of the two. Clammodest (talk) 21:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
E is gonna be the best bet. BarntToust 22:52, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Has a good mix of the pros from A and B; it has both the clarity of the former and the more appropriate date range of the latter. Mb2437 (talk) 22:58, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
E is already used in the career section of the article. If we're gonna make it the infobox photo, can we take it out of the career portion? 205.186.52.209 (talk) 23:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had commented earlier but just wanted to say I feel E looks weird, like he's leaning forward slightly which makes his chin smaller and forehead bigger than it should be. Also think its a bit too tight a crop around his head, if there was this photo with a wider shot I'd rank it higher. F his face is obscured and its tinted green, Rank of all the suggestions so far B > A > D > E > F TheLoyalOrder (talk) 23:33, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
B obscures a large chunk of his face, with uneven lighting across the board, if we're talking proportions and visibility. Mb2437 (talk) 23:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just gonna throw in an extra proposal here, for good measure.
G: from 2012, arguably the 'peak' of One Direction as a young boy band. Shows his face well and is clearly centered, and I edited it solely so that it would work well within an infobox. CarterSterling (talk) 19:36, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it's the best option due to the poor quality. Mason7512 (talk) 19:40, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Poor quality. Mb2437 (talk) 19:44, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Infobox photo

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Which of the following should be Liam Payne's infobox photo? Please rank in order of preference: --- 18:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

Survey

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  • Image A It is the highest quality image and is informative of his life, immediately conveying that he is a singer. (I was pinged to this RfC by means of Yapperbot.) ~ HAL333 22:09, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support A or E. F is okay. Oppose the rest. Some1 (talk) 23:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image E is the clear and obvious choice for clarity and appropriate timeline. Mb2437 (talk) 23:26, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Image E; Image D as most up-to-date image; Image A has dramatic lighting but is low resolution and it appears the subject is scratching his head; Image G is a good portrait but delivers nothing beyond good looks; Image E is a good head shot but low resolution; Image F is out of focus; Image C is out of focus (or the compression makes it look that way) and low resolution—all that remains is a pout—like the Cheshire Cat; Image I is better used in place of Image Hin subsection Liam Payne#2016–2021: Solo projects and LP1 (belated sig added) — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) —
    Reply: The most up-to-date photos are only preferred for biographies of living people; when someone dies, a new photo is chosen, that is why it is being discussed. I also cannot understand how you can call images A and E low quality when D is arguably worse. Mason7512 (talk) 19:16, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Reply to reply: Well, Image Image D fails for resolution and over-compression. As well, Image D does not read as a performer—disqualifying for an infobox image of a performer if good images 'in performance' are available. Wikipedia articles tend to llast forever. Ten years from now a reader will recognize and be most informed by an image 'in performance'. We all have opinions, based on personal criteria and experience. So we differ. So we have an RFD. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 18:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And opinions evidently change. — Neonorange (talk to Phil) (he, they) 18:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Images E, I, then A I could see potential issues with F and G, causing confusion about his profession (giving a false impression of him having been a footballer or other athlete) and quality concerns with D and (to a lesser extent) C. Mason7512 (talk) 18:45, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

tributes section

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It's normal for pages about people to have a tributes or legacy after their death, especially if they were notable AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan (talk) 04:22, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wish that he would rest in peace. I will remember the days when I listened to One Direction’s songs and heard them everywhere! Steven1991 (talk) 05:38, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i’m only making this section because all of the tributes were deleted AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan (talk) 13:07, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tribute sections are best avoided especially if the only purpose is to serve as a list of people who have paid an homage. Notable tributes may though be incorporated into the death/legacy section.
@AndrewGarfieldIsTheBestSpiderMan: Interesting username, though I disagree :). Hope that doesn't conflict with WP:NPOV while editing. Gotitbro (talk) 13:24, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In this case it was highly significant that OneDirection (the band) and all 4 remaining bandmates paid tribute to Liam as they had not publically released any statements or been reunited in any way together as One Direction since the hiatus over 10 years before. Officially Zayn rejoined the other 3 specifically for the tribute on social media, having left the band before the hiatus. Given they have topped 23billion streams and are still streamed 23million times a day all over the world this feels worthy of inclusion. The tributes were all published across their solo and band social media pages. 82.33.158.175 (talk) 23:20, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2024

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Change "an companion" to "a companion"

The article "an" is used before vowel sounds, but "companion" starts with a consonant sound (the "k" sound), so "a" is the correct article to use. MonaNights (talk) 12:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks for the tip. I also added semicolons to the sentence which I don't normally do but I found the existing sentence confusing. --Commander Keane (talk) 12:47, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Funeral

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Shouldn't Payne's funeral + details be mentioned under "Memorials"? It just happened this morning. 172.126.220.132 (talk) 02:19, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 February 2025

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2601:441:8401:79D0:C13F:A37A:D6A1:81AF (talk) 09:49, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cause of Death

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 12:55, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]