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Can't we find a better source to back up these claims than Revolutionary Worker? --ElPeruano (talk) 01:18, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, just be bold! --Victor12 (talk) 02:09, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To User:ElPeruano. If you read the article (is in Spanish, if you want I can translate it for you), that support that at least 2 of the victims were identified as members of Shining Path by the Dean of Social Sciences. Also, I'm removing your personal bias against the agent that provide this information. There is no such thing as a "good" death and a "bad" death. Messhermit (talk) 02:44, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"I can translate it for you." Is that supposed to be insulting? Do you think I speak Quechua or something? I don't understand. The second paragraph is not supported by the source at all. There is nothing about Sendero documents found on the students mentioned. What kind of Sendero documents, anyway? Did Sendero issue their own DNI? It makes no sense.

The reason for my previous comment was to point out the FACT that you deleted the second paragraph without even bothering to confirm if the information was in the article or not. READ the article, and in the right side of the page you will find a small little box with the word "Dato" that supports that particular piece of evidence. Messhermit (talk) 03:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, your "joke" involving Quechua is of very bad taste. Too bad that you feel ashame of knowing (if you do) that language. Messhermit (talk) 03:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the source is very bad. It is a webpage quoting a very bad tabloid newspaper quoting a person quoting an admitted murderer. Of course the Colinas are saying "the students deserved to die." Similarly, the article from Revolutionary Worker, a Maoist pro-terrorist paper, says that Fujimori is 100% guilty. Of course, what do you expect? We should use a neutral, respected source like El Comercio o Gestion or something like that, don't you think? --ElPeruano (talk) 01:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"La Razon" is (along with other newspapers such as "Correo" and "Peru21") a respected newspaper that even though it has a pro-Fujimori editorial line, is far more credible than anything produced by Sendero or the MRTA. Messhermit (talk) 03:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

La Razón, a respected newspaper? Hardly so and not even a widely read newspaper, for instance, it is not among the top ten most widely read newspapers in Lima, according to a May 2007 survey. --Victor12 (talk) 03:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So popularity is more important than accuracy? Is that the case then Peru21 is also not a credible source despite being presided by Augusto Alvarez Rodrich. Let's also ignore the fact that Javier Valle-Riestra constantly writes in "La Razon". Messhermit (talk) 13:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I meant La Razón was neither respected nor popular. BTW, Peru21 has way more readership than La Razón (fifth place in the survey I quoted). --Victor12 (talk) 14:55, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now, regarding whatever you may think about the members of "Colina", all the information that they are providing right now in the trial of Alberto Fujimori is being used by both the Peruvian State and Fujimori's defense, like it or not. Are you implying that only the information against Fujimori is credible and anything else is a lie?. Messhermit (talk) 03:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The FACTS still remains: at least 2 were involved with Sendero. Messhermit (talk) 03:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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The Sections are a specific and unspecific at the same time.. Someone please reorganize- adding to my todolist.Wrathofjames (talk) 05:01, 26 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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