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Thank you for uploading the pictures. However, these pictures are copyright promotional pictures that are not available on a press site and are therefore not free. Wikipedia prefers free images over fair use ones. On "people" pages, someone can easily take a picture of them and release it on the Net, thus making it free. That's why these pictures don't cut it, unfortunately. It's not me being picky, but it's Wikipedia policy, because it's an organization and must follow strict copyright laws.

By the way, this is mostly for future reference. Although these pictures ARE copyrighted and would normally not be allowed, since the group has broken up and the website gone...I have no idea if these are still violations. SKS2K6 04:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 8 December 2017

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. 25 days old and two relistings later, there is strong opposition to this page move as proposed. There might yet be a better disambiguation for this title, such as Kiss (girl group) or similar, so there is no prejudice toward editors making another attempt to garner consensus. (closed by page mover)  Paine Ellsworth  put'r there  02:15, 2 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Kiss (South Korean band)Kiss (South Korean group) – "Band" is usually reserved for music groups where the performers play instruments (see Band (rock and pop); compare TLC (group), Steps (group), Home Free (group), Little Big (group), Xscape (group)). bd2412 T 21:15, 8 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. bd2412 T 04:47, 16 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. Steel1943 (talk) 20:51, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well maybe but Oppose sorry, the case hasn't been made that this isn't a (band) in en.wp terms. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:27, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The "oppose" is per WP:TITLECHANGES. I don't think the rationale is strong enough to justify the move. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:26, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is an unspoken consideration in the fact that there exists a Kiss (band), which is the clear primary topic of bands named "Kiss", which apparently causes some discomfort to people who would like that title to be further disambiguated. The American ensemble often markets itself as a stylized "KISS", so capitalization is no help. Moving the K-Pop flash-in-the-pan clarifies that there is only one entity that is commonly really thought of as a band called Kiss, and one entity that is (or was) something different in the realm of musical ensembles. bd2412 T 02:34, 29 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • BarrelProof, it could. But it doesn't. The "KISS" principle is always referred to using "principle, AND it is an acronym (Keep It Simple Stupid). What's with all the shortcuts, are you trying to bamboozle? Ironic given reference to the principle in the same paragraph. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:34, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I dispute the idea that the "KISS principle" is never referred to without the word "principle". It could easily be at "KISS (slogan)" or "KISS (concept)" or "Keep it simple, stupid" (or even "KISS" if that was not too ambiguous). I believe the four shortcuts I provided are all relevant. I'm not trying to bamboozle anyone – I'm just trying to help identify the relevant policy and guidelines. The first three of those shortcuts are to guidance that discourages the use of all-caps styling for the name of the American band, thus answering your question about why the Kiss (band) article "is not located at KISS". The last one says that if a term (such as "KISS") that is less ambiguous than another term (such as "Kiss") is still ambiguous, it should be redirected to the main associated dab page (in this case, "Kiss (disambiguation)"). —BarrelProof (talk) 04:06, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think you are more-or-less mistaken on every point. Not you personally, but so many Wikipedians. I have no problem in firmly holding minority opinions if need be. I also think that is it a big mistake for all major search engines to have no case-sensitive option. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:15, 30 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
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