Talk:King's Commendation for Valuable Service

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Two different awards described

Unfortunately this article conflates two distinct awards. Prior to the review of the British honours and awards system carried out in the early 1990s, the “Queen’s (or King’s) Commendation for Valuable Service in the Air” was awarded to civilians and military personnel including the test pilots and airline staff cited. Its badge was a pair of wings surmounted by a crown with the text ‘For Valuable Service’ above. From 1994 onwards it was effectively replaced by the “Queen’s Commendation for Bravery in the Air” with a much smaller silver eagle badge. In 1993 the “Queen’s Commendation for Valuable Service” was introduced as an operational award, effectively replacing the British Empire Medal in the ‘one step down from a MBE’ slot, with the leaf cluster emblem depicted in the article. Hence this article really needs splitting into two distinct articles as the two awards are entirely different. Alternatively, the erroneous references to test pilots and airline staff could be removed from this article.

The London Gazette instructions on wearing the emblems make clear the dates of award and different titles of these separate Queen’s Commendations.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Eazix (talk • contribs) 18:16, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

The above is correct. I have now created a separate article for the Queen’s Commendation for Valuable Service in the Air. The references to airline staff and pilots have been moved to the new article and the existing article restructured to fully reflect the post 1994 award.

Hsq7278 (talk) 11:15, 19 June 2018.

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Requested move 11 September 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Per consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) – robertsky (talk) 06:21, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

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Queen's Commendation for Valuable Service → King's Commendation for Valuable Service – After the death of Queen Elizabeth II, King Charles III succeeded her throne. Hence, the name of the commendation would also be modified. Billytanghh (talk) 01:49, 11 September 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 04:40, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

• I support this suggested move.

TheCurrencyGuy (talk) 03:59, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. Keep them seperate. See King's Commendation for Brave Conduct and Queen's Commendation for Brave Conduct for precedence. EmilySarah99 (talk) 07:06, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
  • The commendation is still be awarded by Charles III, unlike the one you mentioned which discontinued in 1994.--Billytanghh (talk) 07:12, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
  • Unsure what you're proving here. King's Commendation for Brave Conduct redirects to the same title with Queen in the name; they are not separate. —oscitare (he/him; talk | contribs) 10:18, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
• Support per request. —oscitare (he/him; talk | contribs) 10:18, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

Note: WikiProject Orders, decorations, and medals has been notified of this discussion. – robertsky (talk) 04:41, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support - as it'll now be awarded by King Charles III. GoodDay (talk) 04:47, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

  I support the proposed change 43Carl (talk) 00:19, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

• Support per nom and the above. BD2412 T 06:57, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.