Talk:John Prescott

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the John Prescott article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1, 2, 3: 30 days

Biography: Politics and Government

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group (assessed as Mid-importance).

Transport: Maritime

	Transport portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Transport, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to Transport on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TransportWikipedia:WikiProject TransportTemplate:WikiProject TransportTransport articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Maritime task force (assessed as Mid-importance).

Wales Low‑importance

	Wales portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Wales, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Wales on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.WalesWikipedia:WikiProject WalesTemplate:WikiProject WalesWales articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Politics of the United Kingdom High‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Politics of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Politics of the United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject Politics of the United KingdomPolitics of the United Kingdom articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Yorkshire High‑importance

	Yorkshire portal John Prescott is within the scope of WikiProject Yorkshire, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to Yorkshire on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project, see a list of open tasks, and join in discussions on the project's talk page.YorkshireWikipedia:WikiProject YorkshireTemplate:WikiProject YorkshireYorkshire articles
High	This article has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

European Union Low‑importance

	European Union portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject European Union, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the European Union on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.European UnionWikipedia:WikiProject European UnionTemplate:WikiProject European UnionEuropean Union articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Socialism

	Socialism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Socialism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of socialism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SocialismWikipedia:WikiProject SocialismTemplate:WikiProject Socialismsocialism articles
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Archives

Archive 1

Archive 2

Archive 3

This page has archives. Sections older than 30 days may be automatically archived by when more than 4 sections are present.

First Secretary of State

I believe his offices are incorrectly listed.

He is listed at being First Secretary of State: 8 June 2001 – 27 June 2007. In fact, he held this office from 8 June 2001 - 28 May 2002, and again 5 May 2006 - 28 June 2007.

In the meantime, he was Secretary of State for Local Government and Regions from 29 May 2002 - 5 May 2006.

https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/lords/lord-prescott/374 http://www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?mpn=John%20Prescott&display=summary — Preceding unsigned comment added by J1995421 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I know that this comment is a couple of years old, but I agree that the dates for Prescott's time as First Secretary of State are wrong and should be changed in the article. FollowTheTortoise (talk) 09:57, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have attempted to have a go at correcting parts of the body of the article in relation to this today, but I'm afraid that I struggle with infoboxes. Could someone please amend the infobox to include the following information, from the UK Parliament website:

Deputy Prime Minister - 2 May 1997 to 28 June 2007
First Secretary of State - 8 June 2001 to 28 May 2002 and 5 May 2006 to 28 June 2007
Secretary of State for Environment, Transport and the Regions - 2 May 1997 to 7 June 2001
Secretary of State for Local Government and the Regions - 29 May 2002 to 5 May 2006

Thanks! FollowTheTortoise (talk) 15:11, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Added news about him recently having a stroke. Updates will come out in the following days. We must keep it updated.

UnculturedOzBoz 12:00 24th June 2019 — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnculturedOzBoz (talk • contribs) 11:00, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The notion that Prescott wasn't First Secretary of State but "Secretary of State for Local Government and the Regions" between 2002 & 2006 seems to be a retroactive thing on the parliament website based on the fact that in 2006 the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister was taken off him and retitled thus showing it did not need the DPM running it. Here's the 2005 ODPM report which lists Prescott on the title page as "The Deputy Prime Minister and First Secretary of State," and repeats this later on when listing the whole ministerial team. (Hit the enter key early.) The ODPM dates back to the June 2001 reshuffle and was an unusual bit of government that basically developed as Prescott picked up responsibilities and took his unit out of the Cabinet Office rather than a more straightforward splitting of the Department of Transport, Local Government & the Regions into two separate departments with two separate titled Secretaries of State. (The closest analogy would probably be the Ministry of Administrative Affairs in Yes Minister which also collected responsibilities rather than Jim Hacker changing actual titles.) In 2006 it was taken off Prescott and renamed as a more conventional department headed by a Secretary of State but that doesn't mean Prescott had been such before then. Timrollpickering (talk) 22:03, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again! The parliament.uk website would normally seem like the best source to use for this sort of thing, so I hope you understand why I used it, but I do now agree that the ODPM is an outlier. Indeed, The London Gazette refers to Prescott as First Secretary of State in the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister here in June 2003. I notice that you've already reversed my edits, so thank you for that! FollowTheTortoise (talk) 15:43, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Television appearances: British Made

TV series on food manufacturing “British Made” RadioTimes David Woodward (talk) 09:34, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Two Jabs?

Always understood that the nickname was ‘Two Jags,’ referring to his ownership and use of his Jaguars (even for very short journeys) during Labour’s promotion of ‘green credentials’ 78.146.7.41 (talk) 14:43, 15 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Two Jabs" is a not-unamusing play on the original "Two Jags", arising from the famous incident when some hulking oaf egged Prescott and was, as the sobriquet suggests, promptly socked twice in the face by Prescott. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.243.103.180 (talk) 23:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He has died

Just heard on Classic FM Radio News this morning that Lord Prescott has died, in a care home.Cloptonson (talk) 06:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ships

Do we know which ships Prescott served on? Mjroots (talk) 17:30, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]