Talk:Iranian schoolgirls mass poisoning
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No sourcing for claim about a "capsule-like device" in the article
[edit]"In at least one case, the source of the gas release was found to be a capsule-like device, and the resulting gas was colorless and odorless and occurred as a "gradual leak","
The source (Express.co.uk) linked after this section doesn't indicate anything about any capsule like device. I've scoured the English speaking news for any sources on this claim and can't find any to date. Worth removing this or linking to a non-english source that can be verified? Bleebler (talk) 04:10, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
Use of 'Chain' in the article name
[edit]The use of 'Chain' in the article name is not a standard English expression, at least in the US, and I only see it in one of the references I've read (but even there just the title). So, I have done a renaming. Rp2006 (talk) 22:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
What a mess
[edit]After adding notes about (MANY) missing citations, I decided to check some of the citations that WERE provided, and as you can see from my editing summaries, many citations are just plain non-applicable to the material they were applied to. What is going on here? Editors are just making shit up. I have not checked the majority, and do not have time to do so right now. I welcome any help. This article needs to be checked from top to bottom! Rp2006 (talk) 01:40, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- UPDATE: As of now, I have made corrections/improvements (I hope) in all but the LARGE Timeline section. Rp2006 (talk) 18:27, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
OK, after finding yet more instances where the citations on claims in the Timeline section seem to have been just fabricated, it seems people are adding WP:OR, so I am blanking all the items still without citations. If the editor(s) who created this material want to restore all or some, you can of course find the removed text in the article's history. Please only restore text that is backed by references which you provide. Rp2006 (talk) 23:35, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Mixing Calendars?
[edit]In the Timeline of reports Section, editors seem to be co-mingling Iranian and Western months. Does not make sense to me to do this - esp. in a subsection labeled with the name of the Western months. How do we address this issue? Rp2006 (talk) 02:52, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
- Update: This apparently has been resolved. Rp2006 (talk) 18:18, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
Copyvios report
[edit]I have attempted to redo the removed text, making it read more differently than the original. Is this good enough? If not, please suggest how else it can be written without a vio and maintain the meaning. Rp2006 (talk) 02:16, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Checking at https://copyvios.toolforge.org/?lang=en&project=wikipedia&title=Iranian+schoolgirls+mass+poisoning+reports&oldid=&action=search&use_engine=1&use_links=1&turnitin=0 it seems that the BBC article is now less of a concern than [mainly the quotes from] https://www.niacouncil.org/news/poisoning-students/ -HTH, Yadsalohcin (talk) 10:12, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Following rewording,g the earwig copyvio detector suggests that the NIAC resemblance is down from 45.1 to 32.0% and says 'violation unlikely'; 2 bbc sources are rated at 12.3% each, so the current version would appear to be relatively good. Now sure what to do about the historic versions. Yadsalohcin (talk) 10:49, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- At revision ID 1143637755, the BBC ref was showing 49.2%, 'violation likely', whereas now as stated it's below 12.3%. so the current version would appear to have been fixed on that front, but older versions had rather more similarity to the source. For preservation of continuity of the editing record, it would be 'nice' to retain all the intermediate versions, but I don't know how 'serious' 49.2% in the history is considered to be... Yadsalohcin (talk) 11:05, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
- Following rewording,g the earwig copyvio detector suggests that the NIAC resemblance is down from 45.1 to 32.0% and says 'violation unlikely'; 2 bbc sources are rated at 12.3% each, so the current version would appear to be relatively good. Now sure what to do about the historic versions. Yadsalohcin (talk) 10:49, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Panic spreads in Iran after new suspected poison attacks on girls schools
[edit]Article to add from The Washington Post.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/04/26/iran-poisonings-schools-protests-girls/
Published April 26th. This is an interesting quote:
“These have been very organized and coordinated attacks. It can’t be random people doing that,” said Mahmood Amiry-Moghaddam, the director of the Norway-based organization Iran Human Rights. “It’s either groups with the blessing of the authorities or forces within the authorities.”
And also this:
Women burning their headscarves became a defining image of the demonstrations, which have died down in recent weeks amid an increasingly brutal government crackdown. At least 530 people have been killed by security forces and nearly 20,000 detained, according to the Human Rights Activists News Agency. But some women and girls continue to protest the hijab law more casually — refusing to cover themselves in public while going about their daily activities.
“The issue of hijab and women is an Achilles’ heel for the leaders of the Islamic republic,” Mohammad Habibi, a spokesman for the Iranian Teachers’ Trade Association, told The Post in an interview from Tehran last month.
“The setting aside of forced hijab and the visibility of this at the social level was definitely not acceptable for the authorities, especially religious and extremist elements,” he added. “They could not accept this open social atmosphere.”
Habibi was arrested on April 5 and taken to Evin prison, his wife Khadijeh Pakzamir tweeted. On April 11, she tweeted that phone communication with him had been cut off.
Relevant content here for the Wikipedia article. 72.14.126.22 (talk) 02:30, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
- I have added this article. Rp2006 (talk) 22:58, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
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