Talk:Huh Joon-ho
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On 30 January 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Heo Joon-ho to Huh Joon-ho. The result of the discussion was moved. |
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Requested move 30 January 2022
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 11:42, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
Heo Joon-ho → Huh Joon-ho – His family name is overwhelmingly romanised officially as Huh, not Heo. See his agency's site, his Instagram account, the school he teaches at, the publicity for the US release of Escape from Mogadishu, and Netflix. They don't all agree on the name order and if Joon-ho should be hypenated or spaced, but they do agree on romanising the family name as Huh. Heo Joon-ho can still be mentioned as an alternative romanisation in the opening paragraph. Tempjrds (talk) 23:24, 30 January 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. Sceptre (talk) 02:11, 7 February 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. ASUKITE 19:25, 18 February 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran • sign the guestbook • (talk) 08:19, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
Oppose – please correct me if I'm wrong (this isn't my area of expertise), but the Google News results seem to favor Heo by a significant margin. Even if there wasn't a clear common name, WP:NCKO counsels that we should defer to the Revised Romanization, which in this case seems to be Heo, unless there is an "established English spelling" to the contrary. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 04:51, 14 February 2022 (UTC)- Reconsidering. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 19:45, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose per Extraordinary Writ. The nomination rationale seems to be based on privileging the romanisation used by the subject himself, or sources directly connected with him, but I see no policy basis for this. Colin M (talk) 20:52, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Relisting comment - I closed this discussion previously, but am re-opening it per a discussion on my talk page. The below discussion from the nominator Tempjrds was copied from my talk page and may be helpful in deciding: ASUKITE 19:25, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
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Although official names should not essentially be considered the common one, WP:BLPSELFPUB states that official information self-published by a person or their agency can be considered reliable for some information, and WP:SPNC seems to suggest giving some weight to it regarding minor variants in name spellings, particularly where it mentions "when a consistent and unambiguous self-published version exists, it is usually followed". As well as sources close to the person himself, the Huh spelling is also used by the Korean Film Council and by the professionally-run VOD services Netflix, Prime Video, Apple TV, Google Play, the Microsoft Store, AMC, and OnDemandKorea. Viki uses Heo, but that's less mainstream and less established in the field than Apple, Amazon, Google, and Netflix are. Huh is used on the professionally-released English-language posters and disc covers for all the movies which have one that his name gets on to from at least as far back as 2008: Escape from Mogadishu, Innocence, Default, The Divine Weapon. Not one, from at least this period, uses the Heo spelling (when I go back a bit further, I see Hur being used, but still not Heo). When I search Google News, the Heo spelling brings up results primarily from celebrity fan culture sites such as Soompi and HELLOKPOP, and NME (which, though a level above, is primarily about music rather than film and TV). The Huh spelling brings up results from Screen International, Deadline Hollywood, The Korea Herald, The Korea Times, and Newsweek. Though its policies advise against giving undue weight to primary sources, Wikipedia's policies do stipulate giving more weight to sources that are more established and known to be high quality for the subject matter in question (see WP:SOURCE), rather than simply what is most common. |
- Note: WikiProject Korea has been notified of this discussion. ASUKITE 19:26, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
- Move per nom, after considering Tempjrds's argument. – robertsky (talk) 03:29, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- Support himself or his agency's preference per storyjcompany.com and instagram.com/huhjh_jcw Sawol (talk) 09:22, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
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