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Please dont merge. If the new sections require this context, they can always link back here, cant they? My argument against merging this wedding section with the religion project is that the hindu weddings are very little in religious context. They are more cultural than religious. Hence it is unfair to categorize this under Religion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.26.208 (talk) 01:13, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hindi names

I don't get it, why remove the Hindi names? As long as we have the english explanation/translation, the Hindi names add authenticity. Did you remove them because we shouldn't favor Hindi over other languages that practice Hinduism? I don't know what to do about that since we can't add every languages word for each item, but since Hindi is the most common language spoken by Hindus, I think we should include them - Taxman ^Talk 12:36, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

OK, the problem is that a Hindu wedding is too complicated to be simply described in two paragraphs. No tradition/ritual exists in all kinds of Hindu weddings; I'm a Hindu, and have lived in India for 20+ years, but have *never* heard of any of the terms mentioned in the article that I removed. Adding Hindi terms for rituals that only Malayalis practise is absurd; the word would probably exist only in Malayalam anyway. Adding terms like baraat in Hindi is fine though, if accompanied by a description of which communities/regions it pertains to. For rituals that exist in all Hindu traditions, Sanskrit is arguably the best choice. I'd recommend Sanskrit terms as being more traditional and authentic than Hindi terms for such terms. Ambarish 17:48, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well you're certainly a better one to improve the article than I. Yes, I know it needs a lot more to explain the variations, but I didn't want to add too much without good references, and I found very few in english (and none so far of high quality), the only language I know well. I didn't want to write much just from what I knew because that's not very verifiable which is important. The article needs good sources and to cite them. I've only been to three Hindu weddings, all in the US. One between a Panjabi and an American, one Gujarati/Panjabi and one Panjabi/Telagu (Is that an ethnic group too? The family was from AP in any case). Almost all Hindu weddings here have a program outlining the ceremonies. The three I saw were primarily in English with the names also in what I thought was Hindi. Maybe they were Sanskrit, but certainly they were romanized. I'll try to find one of them. I don't know which would be the ritual you referred to as only being practiced by Malayali's though. Certainly the article should make it clear that there is a great variety in the traditions, and I tried to do that with this small start, please make that clearer if you think I didn't. If you don't have a chance to expand the article, hopefully someone else will, to avoid me doing a hack job at it. I guess using Sanskrit does make a lot more sense for those, after thinking about it, but of course, I don't know the which words are in Sanskrit unless someone tells me. - Taxman ^Talk 19:20, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

I will work on it whenever I do have the time; in the meantime, I think it would be great if anyone contributes to it; after all, it's a lot easier for me (or anyone else) to correct mistakes and add incremental stuff that to write entire sections. Please feel free to add whatever it is you come across. In short, be bold, and I shall be too! P.S. I actually don't know enough about Malayalis myself; I'm not one, and I just meant it as an example. I do know though about similar customs for even particular sub-communities of people. For instance, among Brahmins from the state of Tamil Nadu, there are 3-4 sub-sects, each of whose wedding rituals is different. Complicated? Yes. Fascinating? Yes! Ambarish 10:42, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In case it has not been noted most of the terms in Devanagari (like पाणिगृहण ) were in Sanskrit. You will find them in Sanskrit wedding manuals all over India. --Vikramsingh (talk) 00:43, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge

There's currently a fork of this at Indian wedding. That article should be changed to a list of pointers to Hindu wedding, Muslim wedding, Jain wedding etc, and anything in there that's relevant brought into here. Jpatokal (talk) 04:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it is a good idea to merge Indian wedding article into this article. There are customs which are different in Hindu and Indian weddings. Merging that article into this will leave no differences between the two. Twin.priyanka (talk) 11:57, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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This is another of the confusing articles in the wedding series, eg. Indian Wedding. I'd like to help edit this article but I'm not sure what's the best way to divide traditions between North/South, brahim/non brahim, Gujarati/Tamil/Punjabi, etc. This is essential a Pandora's box for Hindu weddings and like what other commenters said, several traditions don't overlap (even ones currently mentioned in the article). Should this article be a general introduction to Hindu weddings and then we branch off with articles to specific regions (e.g. Tamil Hindu Wedding)? Or something else? -- Sapphirecut 23:32, 07 November 2013 (UTC).[reply]

Resolved

I just wanted to point this out: "Modern Hindu weddings are often gassy, much shorter, and do not involve all of the rituals of the traditional ceremony, which sometimes go on for five days." Gassy? I'm not sure what that word was meant to mean but it could use clarification. 65.188.250.30 (talk) 03:35, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like an old bit of vandalism that didn't get picked up when it happened. I've reverted to an older version, essentially the same but without "gassy". Thanks for the note. Adrian J. Hunter^{(talk•contribs)} 03:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Much better distinction here (and elsewhere) needs to be made between what is written in the Veda's (Vedanta) and Hinduism. Mixing up Spirituality and Religion is confusing. People adhering to the teaching of the Vedanta are not by definition Hindu's and vice-verse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AernoudDekker (talk • contribs) 05:29, 6 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Change name

This article clearly describes a north indian wedding. Please dont call it a hindu wedding. It doesnt have any information related to south indian weddings or manipuri weddings. So I urge admins to rename this article. Or else hire people to change its content. Also please dont use hindi names. If possible use sanskrit names. coz this is not abt a north indian wedding. 71.90.100.176 (talk) 16:14, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Overlap/duplicate/missing information on the ritual?

Currently the following articles exist related to Hindu weddings:

Overviews: Marriage in Hinduism · Hindu wedding · Vedic wedding ceremony · Vivāha · Yogic marriage.
Rituals: Thread ceremony · Gaye holud (Bengali) · Shakunamanojaya · Balle Mallarada Puje · Pade Puje · Kankana Dharane · Khasa Pada Puje · Satphere · Saptapadi · Mangal Ashtaka · Pradakshina · Parikrama.
Regional: Andhra Pradesh (Telegu) · Arunachal Pradesh (Panchai baja) · Bengal · Bengal (Hindu) · Kerala (Kettu Kalyanam) · Rajasthan (Rajput) · Sikkim (Limbu) Tamil (Iyer)

Could it be that some of the separate articles on rituals need to be merged in one of the overview articles, or in a new article? I don't see what belongs where, as hardly any of them is mentioned in the overviews, so it is confusing at the moment. They seem to be incomplete as well (e.g. Khasa Pada Puje is missing, and what follows after that?). Wiki-uk (talk) 13:27, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have just been to a Hindu wedding. If I had read this article first I would have been confused as during the three hours long ceremony some of the rituals mentioned were not performed and others added. The article is therefore deficient in scope and context. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.18.150 (talk) 12:33, 6 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Student Edit to "Additional Rituals"

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Additions by Kithuz

User:Kithuz added to the lead -

Especially, there are a few rituals done during the wedding period. Firstly, it is called Dholi. It is where the bride's friends and family throw rice grains on her before she leaves her parents house to wish her parents good luck forever more. Then, the Vaaynuvi happens. It happens when the bride groom ties the auspicious string, 'Thali' on her. The people around would throw yellow rice on them as a form of respect for the 'Thali' and to also make sure it is secured on her neck. Lastly, the Chortaan Ka Tel happens. Before the bride enters her in- laws house, she would kick a pot of rice, believed that it informs the house that a new member has joined the house.

Dear Kithuz - I have removed the above because it is unsourced. Wikipedia community requires that content should be verifiable in reliable sources, and articles should follow certain style and format. Please see WP:LEAD, WP:MOS, WP:REFB and WP:V for help. Your contribution is welcome with WP:RELIABLE sources. Peace, Lisa.davis (talk) 12:36, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vedas and Vedic rituals manipulated and distorted by Sanatana dharma

Is there any info on Vedic rituals being manipulated and distorted by sanatana dharma ? there are several incidences of this given that many new gods were added as original source gods to hinduism by primarily sanatana dharma as they absorbed everyone into their religion which was not what the indus valley people had in mind even worshipping prabupada etc sai baba — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.97.160.122 (talk) 01:29, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge with Vivaah

Vivaah and Hindu wedding discuss the same topic. Suggest merger into this article.--Redtigerxyz ^Talk 06:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but it would be better to merge Hindu wedding into Vivah. .👨🏻‍🎨 💠245CMR💠.•^👥📜 08:00, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A merge makes sense, but I support merging Vivaah into this article. As a reader who knows nothing about the topic, this article seems to be better written, organized, and sourced. Schazjmd (talk) 22:35, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support They're clearly the same topic. I agree with the original proposal that Vivaah should be merged into Hindu wedding, as Hindu wedding is a more general term and that is the better article of the two. Would anyone be able to perform this merge? Lennart97 (talk) 23:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Yenne Saastra into Hindu wedding

Part of the Hindu wedding process. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support @Emir of Wikipedia: I can't think of any reason why anyone would oppose this. Please perform the merge if you can! Lennart97 (talk) 23:31, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Proposed merge of Vedic wedding ceremony into Hindu wedding

See Talk:Vedic wedding ceremony#Merge with Vivāha and Hindu wedding? Ost (talk) 23:33, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Both are clearly the same topic. LearnIndology (talk) 11:04, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support They should be merged. Only the references and images need to be added to the target article. The content is already present. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 10:58, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support Vedic wedding is unlikely to have unique content that cannot be covered under Hindu wedding Chancemill (talk) 14:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merger complete. Klbrain (talk) 09:34, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]