Talk:Helmut Bauer (bishop)

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The man in the photo is not the bishop Bauer. Gianlu2790 (talk) 14:08, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

There were two 1980s pictures like that, from the same source, where the death date and biography match the article. I did find another picture of Bauer in old age here, and the features matched the younger picture, which I believe confirms the identity. In case the source for the 1980s picture had used the wrong photograph, please would you provide a link to a correct picture of Bauer in the 1980s, for comparison? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 08:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi [@Storye book, in the description of this photo there is a link to this site https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/augsburg/Augsburg-Unternehmer-Helmut-Bauer-stirbt-an-Corona-Tod-macht-Freunde-fassungslos-id58696891.html so I assumed that the man in the photo is this entrepreneur with the same name died in 2020 at the age of 62. Gianlu2790 (talk) 15:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. I have now uploaded a replacement picture of the older man with the correct biography. Let's see if that one works? The second upload may take a while to show on the article. (I have asked an admin to delete the first upload). Storye book (talk)

How about a different name for the other image? I removed the "young man" for now - misleading. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:09, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

The "young man" has now been removed from the image filepage. Only the old man is showing there now. However, the system has not yet updated to show the old man on the article. I shall try changing the filename. Storye book (talk) 17:16, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Done. Storye book (talk) 17:22, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

That's great! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:28, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Actually, it's astonishing that they are different people. If you compare the features of the young man and old man, they are identical, apart from age. Maybe they are related. Storye book (talk) 17:38, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

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Maria im Aufgang chapel in Schimborn

• ... that Helmut Bauer, auxiliary bishop responsible for church music in the Diocese of Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, founded a chapel to Mary (pictured) in his home town? Source: [1]
  • Reviewed: Samuel Lander
  • Comment: You can see on youtube how parts from Mozart's Requiem were performed for him at his cathedral today (beginning c. 6 min into it).

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2120 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:06, 12 October 2024 (UTC).

• Date, length, hook, QPQ, close paraphrase check checks out. Image free on Commons (albeit not great quality). --Soman (talk) 13:44, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
  • @Soman and Gerda Arendt: a couple of things. Firstly, on English terminology: notwithstanding the direct translation of "Feldkapelle", a "chapel" in English is usually a room in a larger building. I would instead call this a "shrine" or similar.
    Secondly, on WP:DYKINT: perhaps we could trim the bits about his various jobs and focus on the chapel? To me, it is interesting that it is now a hiking destination, or that a ceremony has been held on the same feast day since 1984, the day of its consecration. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 08:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

  learning English: this is the first time I hear that chapel has a different meaning from Kapelle. We could do nothing, relying on "usually". We could use the original Feldkapelle, which would clarify better that it is in nature (which the image shows - open to the front) but not clearly. "Shrine" tells me that there are some relics, such as those of Hildegard of Bingen in the village church of Eibingen (not the abbey). Wrong? - As for shortening: yes we could stop right after Gotteslob which speaks of responsibility for the common German-language hymnal (for German-language countries that is), far beyond the Würzburg diocese, and far far beyond some little open space in the fields. I only picked it because of the image, and because he loved Mary as well as church music. Yes, there was one piece to Mary sung in the Requiem, but the heavy weight was on Mozart's Requiem. - Just today I remember a 10-years-old hook about Mela Tenenbaum, and am happy that it says something about geography in her life and dedication of music to her, and not just that she played a piece with an unusual instrumentation, or just that she played on Queen Elizabeth 2. Happy also to have mentioned Ukraine in 2014. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, perhaps using the original Feldkapelle would be best. The image is also rather low-quality and probably shouldn't be used. With that in mind, I'm rather struck by his work on confirmations—including the 500 in Tanzania. If he considered that work his prime duty, he'd probably prefer a hook on it—and you get something about geography in his life too. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:11, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

  ALT1: ... that Helmut Bauer, responsible for church music in Würzburg and president of the commission for the Gotteslob hymnal, confirmed around 150,000 young people, including 500 in Tanzania? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

  Ok for ALT1. I'm still also ok with the original hook, a kapelle is a chapel and a feldkapelle is a field chapel. See for example "feldkapelle, or field chapel, a Northern European tradition of building small chapels in rural and agrarian landscapes." ([2]) --Soman (talk) 09:55, 19 October 2024 (UTC)