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WikiProject Ancient Egypt to-do list:

Needed articles.

We should have an article on every pyramid and every nome in Ancient Egypt. I'm sure the rest of us can think of other articles we should have.

Cleanup.

To start with, most of the general history articles badly need attention. And I'm told that at least some of the dynasty articles need work. Any other candidates?

Standardize the Chronology.

A boring task, but the benefit of doing it is that you can set the dates !(e.g., why say Khufu lived 2589-2566? As long as you keep the length of his reign correct, or cite a respected source, you can date it 2590-2567 or 2585-2563)

Stub sorting

Anyone? I consider this probably the most unimportant of tasks on Wikipedia, but if you believe it needs to be done . . .

Data sorting.

This is a project I'd like to take on some day, & could be applied to more of Wikipedia than just Ancient Egypt. Take one of the standard authorities of history or culture -- Herotodus, the Elder Pliny, the writings of Breasted or Kenneth Kitchen, & see if you can't smoothly merge quotations or information into relevant articles. Probably a good exercise for someone who owns one of those impressive texts, yet can't get access to a research library.

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Latitude exactly the speed of light.

Should there be some brief mention that the Great Pyramid seems to have been built on the latitude of the speed of light. I.E. if you put the coordinates 29.9792458N 31.132778E into google maps, the pointer of the red pin lines up exactly with the point of the great pyramid. The speed of light is one of the most important concepts in physics - it's basically the relationship between time and space, so it's pretty much as important as constants such as PI. Obviously it's probably just a very strange coincidence, but it is a very strange and notable fact. Obviously the ancient Egyptians probably didn't use metre units (regarding the metre per second units for the speed of light), but the Earth's circumference is almost exactly 40,000 kilometres, so the metre isn't just an arbitrary modern unit. (I'm not a crank by the way, just I was surprised the facts didn't let me easily dismiss the coincidence.) 77.103.105.67 (talk) 04:48, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Snopes covers this.[1] Doug Weller talk 09:22, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, one degree of latitude spans around 111 km (the length of a WGS 84 meridian, 20003.93 km / 180°), thus the value of 29.9792458° implies a precision of 0.0111 m or 1.11 cm. It is doubtful that the last 4 digits of the latitude are significant when specifying the location of a building the size of the pyramid. cmɢʟee⎆τaʟκ 16:22, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Year Notion to Common Era

The dates within the article should be changed from BC->BCE and AD->CE to reflect neutral academic terminology of the Common Era that does not carry with it any religious or ethnocentric bias.

As this article has nothing to do with Christianity or Christian-influenced Western culture, there is no reason for the date notion to be based around the birth of Christ (BC meaning Before Christ and AD Anno Domini, Latin for "in the year of our Lord.").

Also because this article is related to the funerary and spiritual beliefs of Ancient Egypt, I believe it is extra important for there to be religious/cosmological objectivity, making Before the Common Era/Common Era the appropriate choice.

According to the Wikipedia Manual of Style, chronological notation can be changed when it makes sense for the article. While it gives specific examples of when to use to Julian or Gregorian calendar, early societies in the Near East are not explicitly stated.^[1] Using BCE/CE also follows the standards set by the majority of leading manuals of style including those for Encyclopædia Britannica, American National Biography, Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, MLA, Chicago Manual of Style, AP Stylebook, and more.

My previous edits reflect this change in date format in the article.

016bells (talk) 22:34, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Usually, the article era style is set by those editors who contribute to it. While BC/AD are "Christian" designations, BCE/CE are just new names for old, names that keep to the Christian chronology while pretending not to. If we were really being culturally sensitive, we would probably date everything to years of an Egyptian president's term, as Egyptians would have dated events in reference to pharaoh's reign; but people would probably find that extraordinarily inconvenient. Dhtwiki (talk) 18:35, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "For dates in early Egyptian and Mesopotamian history, Julian or Gregorian equivalents are often uncertain. Follow the consensus of reliable sources, or indicate their divergence." https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Julian_and_Gregorian_calendars

Giza Pyramids are a great circle map to the Pacific Ocean

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Giza Pyramids are a great circle map to the Pacific Ocean

Great Circle Navigation Archaeology ... Giza Pyramids GPS/Antipodes Map to Strait of Magellan, Drake Passage, Pacific Ocean

Pyramid of Khufu, Pyramid of Khafre, Pyramid of Menkaure, Strait of Magellan, Drake Passage, South Shetland Islands Antarctica

https://goo.gl/maps/NVqVUM5Zv3jTppJr9 ... Google Map

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fi1akWT-tIDylDf8i3lEy3CNBvGD-M_z ... Great Circles

https://drive.google.com/file/d/15l72bYiyTC6IGe-hCTywMwy-Hp9XE_G8 ... Great Circles

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1j_DbmniDE67V3z1-XX5qzz9xca3FiAry ... Great Circles

WiNtekoWa (talk) 10:27, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. We don't include pseudo-scientific theories in our articles, everyone can produce some maps and claim that they are evidence of something. Please see WP:OR for a better explanation of why this won't become part of the article. Fram (talk) 12:11, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fram, this is User:SteveBenassi. Besides this kind of weird OR, he's also into anti-semitic trolling. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:12, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Yes, I saw his post at Talk:Antisemitism after I had replied here, and figured that they were a troll who wouldn't last very long here. Had no idea whose sock they could be, so didn't pursue that angle. Fram (talk) 15:17, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] "For dates in early Egyptian and Mesopotamian history, Julian or Gregorian equivalents are often uncertain. Follow the consensus of reliable sources, or indicate their divergence." https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers#Julian_and_Gregorian_calendars

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