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Etymology

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Say what the word Gitmo is derrived from. 65.95.194.171 (talk) 11:56, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron talk 04:05, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

5x expanded by Based5290 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Based5290 :3 (talk) 04:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.
Overall: Oof, that's a heavy topic. Article appears to be new enough and long enough. Reading through it, it appears balanced. Earwig is unhappy, but this appears to be due to the lengthy quotes. No QPQ needed, and no image. Looks good to go. Preference for ALT 1 or ALT 2  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 5 November 2024

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) JJPMaster (she/they) 01:41, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Gitmo playlistMusic torture in the war on terror – About half of the sources on the page currently lump in music torture at Gitmo with the other American detention camps in the War on Terror, so I think we should expand the scope of this article beyond Gitmo. @AirshipJungleman29 did suggest "Auditory torture in Guantanamo Bay", but most of the sources almost exclusively focus on music. It's possible both are just pitfalls of my research, but I think this is still good enough reason for a move. Based5290 :3 (talk) 07:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. JJPMaster (she/they) 04:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support – expanding the scope slightly will increase the article's accuracy. The article itself strates that, "Loud music was employed in interrogations in other American detention centers during the war on terror, including Abu Ghraib", and furthermore about a detention facility in Morocco. Thus, extending the scope of this article to include all American detention camps during the war on terror is natural. Makkkkus (talk) 12:48, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination, expanding the scope seems to be a good idea. Di (they-them) (talk) 14:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Peer review

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I think I got this article as far as I can apart from a few minor things, but I'm not super experienced with writing, nor was I super familiar with this topic before I started researching. I was hoping to get some feedback to bring up the quality of the article. Thanks, Based5290 :3 (talk) 07:31, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Airship

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Article looks generally good, and ready for a formal review process like GA, which I've kept in mind while reading it. My only comment is that the title chosen is somewhat odd. By the looks of it, there are four names for the "playlist", but no actual playlist is known to have existed and the songs seem to have been more semi-randomly chosen by guards. In addition, most of the article is not about anything that can be called a "playlist", but instead about the mechanisms and reception of the torture. I would thus suggest renaming the article to "Auditory torture at Guantanamo Bay" or something similar.

You may also want to expand the background section to go into more detail on use of auditory torture by US forces outside Guantanamo Bay. For example, this 2003 BBC News article talks about auditory torture being used in Iraq. You could also specify specific songs or incidents: see this list of songs used on prisoners, or this fairly comprehensive source published by a subject-matter expert, so you don't have to worry about WP:SELFPUB. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The title apparently came about from someone copy pasting a bunch of text from a newspaper to start this article, but I wouldn't be opposed to changing it. However, by a very rough count, only about half of the sources focus on Gitmo specifically, while the others generally lump it in with the other detention centers. Maybe it should be renamed to something like "Auditory torture in the War on Terror" (which should be as simple as moving some info from background to use and changing a few words around)?
Thanks for the suggestion to include more information in the background section and this review in general. Based5290 :3 (talk) 01:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Z1720

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Comments after a quick skim:

  • Per MOS:ALLCAPS, titles in a citation probably should not be in all caps.
  • Some paragraphs are quite long, making it hard to read (especially on a mobile device). I suggest splitting up some of the paragraphs: my recommended target length is 4-6 sentences per paragraph.
  • Wikimedia Commons might have some images that could be added to the article.
  • Additional places that you might find sources are Google Scholar, Archive.org, WP:LIBRARY or your local library system.

I hope this helps. Z1720 (talk) 14:11, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]