Talk:Girls und Panzer

IOC und Panzer.

According to RT-Pravda, Premier Putin now proposes that sensha-dou a.k.a. main battle tank biathlon shall be a demonstrational sport at the 2020 Tokyo Summer Olympics! (A pilot event was held this August among six T-72 teams from various countries of the former USSR, with the russian crew winning by far.) 87.97.103.74 (talk) 21:42, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

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Go have a cry Benlisquare. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.211.86.228 (talk) 09:37, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

In-universe nomenclature in English

Moved from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga‎

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In cases where we have an anime series that has been localised in the west, and the in-universe official English-language nomenclature differs, which one do we use? For example, in the case of Girls und Panzer, the official print media in Japan uses "Panzerfahren" as the English (yes, English, even though it's German) translation for senshado (戦車道), as can be seen here, whilst Sentai Filmworks localises it as "tankery" in its North American release anime dub. Both are official, which one should be used? --benlisquare_T•C•E 09:44, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Has either been used more in discussion by reliable third party sources? If not, could you just leave it as senshado and then write "(officially translated as "Panzerfahren" in the manga and "tankery" in the anime)" when the term is first introduced? Failing that, I'd just say default to the source material, so "tankery".--十八 11:03, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

I'd make a specific footnote in a note section for something this complex and note both English terms prior to the note. We can address the issue better in a footnote for readers who are confused or put off by this, also this would mean picking and referring to a singular usage going forward and I might suggest "Tankery" because it is not the German word. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:45, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

"Official print media published in Japan" is very vague. Can you provide a more specific source for "panzerfahren"? I was unable to find out where that photo came from. ー HigherFive〈Ｃ | Ｔ〉 08:39, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Source for the above image is:

• 電撃ホビーマガジン編集部 (2013), ガールズ&パンツァー 模型道 公式教本 大洗女子学園×黒森峰女学園. アスキーメディアワークス. ISBN 4048916564
• DENGEKI HOBBY BOOKS (2013), Girls & Panzer: Mokei-dō kōshiki-kyōhon Ōarai-joshi-gakuen × Kuromorimine-jogakuen. ASCII Media Works. ISBN 4048916564

The book can be puchased from Amazon.co.jp here, and is indexed (no preview) on Google Books and on WorldCat. --benlisquare_T•C•E 09:23, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. I've gone ahead and cited it to the footnote. ー HigherFive〈Ｃ | Ｔ〉 16:16, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Over-analysis

This set of edits [1] seems to contain much psychological analysis not backed up by references. This looks like WP:OR. This seems overdone for Wikipedia; Wikia or TVTropes would be more suitable for this sort of thing. --John Nagle (talk) 02:18, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Girls and Peace

I wonder if the title of the anime inspired the album name Girls & Peace by Girls' Generation. Maybe it is like a positive answer... --Christian140 (talk) 21:14, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

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Reception section

I wonder if anyone has "analyzed" the reception in Germany. Wouldn't surprise me if the (official) reception was a bit chilly. Most of the material seems an exercise in absurdity when compared to history, but German officialdom is a bit humorless about comical depictions of the Third Reich. 83.25.201.221 (talk) 19:31, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

non-NPOV

"overall, the opinion piece was ridiculed by the majority of Chinese netizens online, many of whom criticized the paranoid attitude of the writer, and were skeptical of the intentions of the opinion piece."

sounds like this fan of the show didn't like the remarks. alas, biased POV. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.185.38.232 (talk) 06:38, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Translation Nitpick

The article states: "translation from German: Girls and Tanks". But while "und Panzer" does indeed mean "and tank(s)" in German, "Girls" is obviously English. The German word for "girls" is "Mädchen", so "Mädchen und Panzer" would be the fully German translation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.200.70.38 (talk) 13:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Well, "translation from German" sounds less sloppy than "translating 'und Panzer' from German'". 207.157.127.34 (talk) 17:41, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

The word Girls

In German? — Preceding unsigned comment added by הראש (talk • contribs) 09:54, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Edit war over MOS:CONFORMTITLE

@Whoop whoop pull up:, I have reverted your Citation bot suggestion three times already in regards to un-italicizing the titles of works inside a reference tag. It should be italicized as per MOS:CONFORMTITLE. Kindly help me out to understand why you keep on un-italicizing those titles for us to be on the same page. Thank you so much. Centcom08 (talk) 07:14, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

That appears to be a bug in Citation bot. Writing up a bug report right now. Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes} 09:18, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Aaand bug reported here. Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes} 09:23, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I really appreciate your time in making the bug report. Centcom08 (talk) 09:38, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Summarizing infobox

@Dark PikaDex: I would like to remind you that you can only do the bullet-style list if each item has its own stand-alone article, which in the case of Girls und Panzer's books and video games they do not have. Thank you for understanding. Centcom08 (talk) 21:46, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Dark PikaDex: Going by your logic (based on your edit summary here), there should be no infobox related to anime since it has been detailed on the "Anime" section. Quoting from your edit summary: the same information is repeated so why only manga and video games? Centcom08 (talk) 22:03, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

I thought it could be summed up that way, because I've seen it edited this way in articles like Yuki Yuna is a Hero and Little Busters! (adaptations section). The information related to "anime" is kept in the template because most of the people who enter the article do so to know information about the anime, we all know that the manga does not sell as much as the anime, and even less if we talk about spin-off manga. --Dark PikaDex (talk) 22:19, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Dark PikaDex Per MOS:LEADELEMENTS, infoboxes contain summary information or an overview relating to the subject of the article, so at least readers can see a summary of the article without going to the article body (quoting from MOS:LEAD, The lead is the first thing most people will read upon arriving at an article, and may be the only portion of the article that they read.). So infobox has at least the details needed for readers to find without going deep diving into the article body if that is too long for them to read. If, for example, a manga and/or video games have a separate article then we agree to list it in bullet style with a hyperlink. About the Little Busters!, I can't comment on that because the infobox is not located in the Lead section of the article. For the Yuki Yuna is a Hero, I think it should have an infobox for each manga (but again, a discussion on that article's talk page is a good start to determine the infobox presentation since only the manga has a bullet-style list whereas the video game titles have their own infobox). Centcom08 (talk) 22:40, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Dark PikaDex To address your statement: we all know that the manga does not sell as much as the anime, and even less if we talk about spin-off manga., that is a bold assumption without reliable sources, so that is not a good reason for reducing the infoboxes in the Lead section. Centcom08 (talk) 22:43, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

@Dark PikaDex: Checking other popular Japanese series, I might reconsider the bullet-style list. I'll ask someone I worked with before. Centcom08 (talk) 22:57, 9 August 2022 (UTC)