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Q4: Why is this article calling it a murder instead of a death/killing?

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Q5: Wasn't Floyd killed near a store called Cub Foods, not Cup Foods?

A5: The store is Cup Foods, and is not affiliated with the Cub Foods store chain.

Q6: Why does the article use such a graphic photo? Isn't it in poor taste?

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Q8: Why do we not call the protests riots?

A8: Because most reliable sources call them protests, not riots.

Q9: Did he not die of a drug overdose?

A9: No, whilst fentanyl was a contributory factor, his death certificate lists his cause of death as "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression".

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Requested move 3 June 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

It was proposed in this section that George Floyd protests in Chicago be renamed and moved to George Floyd protests in Illinois.

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Procedural close. The target page is a non-redirect that possesses substantial content. It is therefore not suitable as a "new" title for this article. This appears to be more of a merge request, which is a different process with its own procedures. (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 22:57, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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George Floyd protests in Chicago → George Floyd protests in Illinois – The List of George Floyd protests page is set up by the state. Protest by state articles are emerging and work better than by city. It is important that the smaller events can be mentioned, discussed, and moved at the next level. gidonb (talk) 01:54, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support A lot of cities are not particularly thick on content although Chicago is not one of them, but could do with a good trim down, to prevent Illinois from getting to a crazy size. Games of the world (talk) 06:58, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Having Wikipedia editors arbitrarily decide each US state needs a George Floyd protest article is not consistent with our long time policy on notability. If any particular location has protest events where the crowd turns to violent behavior (riot) or significant property damage, that would quite likely meet the Wikipedia general notability criteria for an article. Even without violent behavior or property damage, it could very well be that a multi-day, long-running protest might meet that criteria. But insisting on a state-level article name when the more notable violence/prop damage in just in one locale does not make sense. N2e (talk) 03:43, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support - There is a lot of info on the Chicago protests, so that can be its own section (especially considering it's a major city and it's to be expected), while the protests in other Illinois cities can be merged here as a list. Love of Corey (talk) 20:44, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

For the sake of history, I'll add that the move was proposed before George Floyd protests in Illinois existed! I have no problem with the technical closure after someone set up the state article. Besides the additional article, the amount of content for both articles also grew. gidonb (talk) 17:20, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Which protests qualify as "George Floyd protests" ? (regarding August 9-10, especially)

Simply put, are all post-George Floyd police brutality/BLM protests "George Floyd protests" ? Sure, there is unarguably an increase in such activity, which can undeniably be attributed to George Floyd's death. However, should we count as a "George Floyd protest" events like those on August 9-10, which were sparked by a shootout with police on the same day ? I'm wondering, especially since sources do not always mention the general context of increase in such protests. We need to think about this, especially going forward. Fa suisse (talk) 05:43, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I've just started a discussion on this very topic at the George Floyd protests article's talk page. Fa suisse (talk) 06:10, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]