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Requested move 14 November 2024

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– Current title violates WP:PDAB. Floridian (Amtrak train) is also ambiguous, so use decades instead. 162 etc. (talk) 04:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: Of the two articles, this one is clearly the primary, with over 80% of pageviews. Since it is currently operating and the other isn't, that's likely to skew higher as time goes on. (It's also possible that this iteration of the Floridian will last past 2029, in which case the decade-based disambiguation will become invalid anyway.) Pi.1415926535 (talk) 05:16, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exceptions are made at WP:PDAB when "there is one (...) that is very well known and is considered much more highly notable than the others." I don't see that here with these two train services. This isn't Thriller.

It's also entirely unsurprising that the pageviews are currently high for Floridian (train), since the service launched just a few days ago. See WP:RECENTISM. 162 etc. (talk) 15:28, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for reasons above. DAB page for historical properties is appropriate, and there is no evidence of a page of an active transit service DAB'ed. See, for instance, 7_(New_York_City_Subway_service). Calwatch (talk) 05:41, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's quite false. See Hiawatha (Amtrak train), Pere Marquette (Amtrak train), Valley Flyer (Amtrak train). 162 etc. (talk) 15:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. There is no evidence that the current train will be have more long-term notability than the older train. Esolo5002 (talk) 06:32, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Per Pi.1415926535. There is a fundamental misunderstanding with WP:PDAB here; WP:PDAB allows for the primary subtopic to have partial disambiguation. Please see WP:PDABLIST for a list of examples with established community consensus on their current page names. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 07:13, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Pi and OrdinaryScarlett. The 1970s train isn't going to become any more notable than it already is. Mackensen (talk) 12:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose move per above. It's clearly the primary topic of the two. O.N.R. ^(talk) 13:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]