Talk:Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (video game)

Cost of GBAs

The article says: "getting four people with GBAs and cables together to play this game is daunting, unlikely, and expensive."

I wonder if this true anymore. It should probably be switched to the past tense, as GBAs are $10-20 each, and a single person can now feasibly buy four GBA-SPs for only $160 or so (less than the cost of most PC graphics cards.)

I wonder if it should mention it at all. The only hardship faced was getting the GCN-GBA cables, which wasn't that much at all - even less if each player bought their own cable... the game wasn't intended for one player to buy four GBAs and four GCN-GBA cables, but for people who already have GBAs amongst themselves. So it wasn't really that daunting unless everyone you happened to want to play with were either cheap or non-gamers, in which case it wouldn't be a huge loss in the first place... at any rate, I agree that it ought to be at least in the past tense. 24.70.68.199 07:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The section refers to the price of GBAs at time of release; it's referring to reaction, not "reaction after 2 years". At the time it was in no way worth it, and, in my opinion, definitely not worth it to buy 4 GBAs now. I can only think of two games that would utilize it. Oh wait, NONE. Because neither LOZ 4 Swords nor Crystal Chronicles actually USED the GBA. It just REQUIRED it. Okay, sorry, I've gone much farther than I needed to.--Katana314 01:28, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Also: I took out "(But the family trade Thief isn't an option.)" since the family trade Warrior/Scholar/Magician aren't options, either, so this isn't a particularly useful bit of information... 24.70.68.199 07:37, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

I tweaked the text here to reflect that this a relatively high expense when compared to the price of the game, and that the difficulty is more logistical. This can be further amended as needed. -- Slordak 14:52, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Last Final Fantasy game for the Nintendo console

"Since Sony partially owns Square Enix, the company that makes the Final Fantasy series, it seemed extremely unlikely that Final Fantasy would ever be published on a Nintendo console again."

I'm not sure about this. As people know, there is a Final Fantasy game being made for the Wii and it's also being made by Square Enix.

It seemed unlikely. At the time, Final Fantasy was not lined up for any of Nintendo's consoles, save for re-releases of previous titles on the GBA. It's like saying that the odds of Rare releasing another Banjo-Kazooie game on one of Nintendo's consoles are slim to none, as they are owned by Microsoft now. Of course, now we now that Square Enix has no problem releasing original titles on other consoles. 69.165.194.193 00:39, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

With Snake appearing in SSBB, anything can happen. --Katana314 01:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Criticisms

Can anyone document the critisisms? They seem to be two fan boys (one who doesn't mind Nintendo, the other who seems to hate it) and they just parry each other's comments. --Thaddius 01:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Crystal Chronicles Template?

It's now apparent that Square Enix plans on continuing Crystal Chronicles as it's own series...so should it get it's own template, or at least section under the FF template? Right now all 3 CC games are listed under "spinoff."--Claude 06:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Hurdy, Gurdy and the Scholar of Tipa

The article says:

"Gurdy: The rather untrustworthy Clavat makes his living out of cheating people out of their money. Players see him cheat both the Fields of Fum caravan and Amidatty. Possessing a great acting ability and silver tongue he seems to get away with it, though he often comes begging to players for help or money. Though one of the less pure characters he does help players a great deal in their quest with his poems. It later turns out that he has suffered from a loss of memories and barely knows who he is."

"Hurdy: A traveling priest who is apparently Gurdy's brother. However, near the end of the game, players will be given clues that suggest that Hurdy IS Gurdy, who thought his name was Gurdy after his memories were stolen by Raem, but this is not confirmed."

"The Scholar of Tipa: In year 2 onwards till around year 5 the village elder will stop characters on the bridge on their way out of Tipa to give them some information about a scholar from Tipa who wanted to rid the world of miasma and hired the Black Knight for protection when he traveled in search of a way to get rid of miasma. The scholar apparently dissapeared after sending a letter home to him from Mag Mel. He also claims that he recited certain poems which seemed to refer to the Lynara Desert. Gurdy will later recite these poems for players revealing that he could possibly have been the scholar before he lost his memories, however this is not confirmed. "

Not confirmed? In the official guide is confirmed that Gurdy, Hardy and the scholar of Tipa are not different persons.

"Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Official Guide" says:

"The story of Hurdy is told by Tipa's elder. // According to the elder, Hurdy was a young scholar born in Tipa and full of good intentions. // After several adventures, he quickly learned that the key to the enigma of the world lay in miasma streams. He eventually discovered the five poems leading to the treasure of the Linary Desert... // Upon hiring the Black Knight to protect him. // Hurdy and Gurdy are in fact the same person."

Hurdy is the Scholar of Tipa, and Gurdy is Hurdy.

Merge soundtrack in here

It's a few sentence mention, not a whole article. Judgesurreal777 03:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Anyone willing to expand it? There's plenty of room for it...--Claude 00:26, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Expand what? Kariteh 08:15, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. Now, Anybody want to UN-merge it? Create a "Music of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles" page? There is still an album called "Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Opening Theme - Sound of the Wind" which I have not put in (YET). Anybody care to add a bit to what I put? (more text, a ref or two...)happypal (Talk | contribs) 12:18, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The general trend is that a "Music of" article is created when there is more than one album. Kariteh 13:03, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I'll get working on it then (I don't know when). I'll need a little help with text and intro, cuz I really suck at that. If anybody wants to help, it's fine if you edit this page, then I'll move everything together.happypal (Talk | contribs) 13:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Character page merger

The article has no references, and is unlikely to meet any Good Articles criteria at the moment...Judgesurreal777 23:18, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

CC a FF9 spinoff.

I think someone should have pointed out once that Crystal Chronicles was an obvious spinoff of Final Fantasy 9 or maybe even a sequel. The fact that the character designs are identical to FF9 and that most every supporting character from FF9 reappears in CC(examples-Stilzskin,Artemicon, Mog) is a dead giveaway. Everytime I try to add this it gets edited out by whoever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.192.187 (talk • contribs) 06:32, 6 August 2007

We'll need citations and references for that. If not, it's apparently Original research. — Blue。 07:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Just because the monster designs are similar doesn't mean anything... and because there are moogles (especially Moogles that have been in other Final Fantasy games, when talking of famous Stiltzkin, Artemicion, and Mog)... That's nothing, really. That's not "most every supporting character". What about Black Mages? Qu? Any nezumi? Tantalus Troupe? Beatrix? I'd say most of the supporting characters from FF9 are missing, not reappearing.. -JC 10:09, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Music of Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles

I would like to move the Audio section to a new page. It is currently as big as the rest of the article. I can do this via simple cut and paste, but is there anyway to do a correct "move" on the subsection only? I'm also not too familiar with the tags requesting for help. Thanks for the help. happypal (Talk | contribs) 13:06, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

I think the proper way to go about it is to put up the split template on the top of the page. From what I can gather it's explained here.--Niroht | Smoke signals 21:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

On second thought, I think it would be better not to move it. It is stronger in this article. If we moved it, it would just become a boring Stub.happypal (Talk | contribs) 16:24, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

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Reassessment

This article seems to be coming along quite nicely, and I'm thinking maybe it should be reassessed by the various projects and possibly put up for review. Could I have some more opinions on this?--Niroht | Smoke signals 23:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Echoes of Time announced

Announced today in development for the DS and Wii. http://wii.ign.com/articles/915/915165p1.html NinjaRooster (talk) 22:44, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, what do we need for GA?

Just got back to the FF WikiProject, and this still hasn't reached Good Article status? In that case, just tell me what needs to be improved and I'll get right on it! Yellow Mage (talk) 14:22, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Princess Fiona

The article says she is half-Selkie, noticeable through "her large bust, and Selkie crest on her left cheek." However, the Final Fantasy Wiki states her mother, who had passed away, was a Clavat. Her Selkie like appearance in Leuda is supposed to be a disguise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redeemer3 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Indeed you are correct. The latest game in the series, My Life as a Darklord, specifically states that she is half-lilty, half-clavat. I have made the change to the article, however the only citations I could find to back this up are in fansites and on youtube and they are frowned upon as sources. However, I assure you that the game does state this. It is a shame we cannot cite software like we can books. --Taelus (talk) 11:49, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (series)

This article has no demonstrable individual notability, and could have all its content easily placed inside the real parent article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 01:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Agreed; the only thing in the series article that's not copied from the first game's article or the music article is a couple paragraphs of plot recap from the games of the series, and the list of games from the navbox. At 8 items + music, it couldn't even really support a list. --PresN 21:28, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Been a few weeks and no objections, could you merge this User:PresN? I would but I am bad with mergers of this kind, not sure what to keep and what to toss. Perhaps we could merge the Code Age article too...? :) Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:49, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Merged; there really wasn't anything to merge in- the list of sequels (except for the browser game) was already at the first game's legacy section, the world info was a mix of the setting sections of two of the articles, and the music was just a summary of the music article. --PresN 16:45, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Assessment comments

These have been moved here from a subpage as part of a cleanup process. See Wikipedia:Discontinuation of comments subpages.

Article requirements:

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• B: all of C and (1) most technical details in infobox; (2) technical personnel in personnel section; (3) no obvious issues with sourcing; (4) no obvious issues with readability, though it may not conform completely to style guidelines; (5) no glaring omissions of information (see some suggestions at WP:ALBUM) or extraneous information, like trivia.
  
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--This article does not meet the basic criteria for a "start" class under the standards of WP:ALBUM. In order to do so, it would need an infobox and a track list.

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 12:36, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

Immediate Failures

• It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria
• It contains copyright infringements - a copyvio check brought up very little
• It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include {{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
• It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Links

• External link is to "Official Japanese Site", should we not at least include the English version? Also, the wording is poor. Maybe "Square-Enix Official website (Japanese)", or similar. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I've addressed this issue, but including the English site is problematic as it runs using Flash, which doesn't reliably archive, and as the site is long dead, the English web page seemed unnecessary for this article's completion. --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:27, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
• You are currently using some shortened format (Harvard Style citations), mixed in with traditional. These are generally for acedemic references, as you are simply noting who has stated this in the past. I believe (Although it's ambiguous) that the references are citing the instruction book, but this could easily be done as a cite book. I would recommend changing this Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  •  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:27, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
• The same is true for the added reference at the bottom, citing the instruction book. I'd have all of the citations as universal. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  •  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:27, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
• Nice archiving! Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
• would the link to the VG portal, or WikiMedia/WikiQuote make sense for this article? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:23, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  •  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:27, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Prose

Lede

• "2003 in Japan and 2004 in Western territories." - Not a fan of the term "Western Territories", and it suggests that it was not only released everywhere in the West, but it was not released in other Eastern countries outside of Japan. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  •  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:21, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
• Wikilink schism. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Negated with some rephrasing. --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:21, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
• "Miasma" - I'm sure this is described later in the article, but if it's a name, it needs ital. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  •  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:48, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
• "Square Product Development Division 2" is first mentioned in the lede, but it doesn't explain what it is. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I've addressed this, I hope. I decided to do some rephrasing so it was a little less wordy for casual readers. --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:21, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
• "Multiple Crystal Chronicles games were later produced for Nintendo consoles" - These are sequels, yes? I'd mention that it's a series, and not simply games based on this video game (It's a tiny bit ambiguous) Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:34, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  •  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:21, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Gameplay

• Wording in general needs an overhaul in this section. It doesn't flow, and reads like a lot of disjointed sentences. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• Is "Tipa Caravan" a name? If so, it should be ital Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• "adventurers who travel the world searching for rare trees which produce a special substance dubbed "myrrh" which fuel the crystals protecting the world's settlements from the poisonous Miasma" - a lot of supposition here. Miasma really should have more information, as it's not really a normal thing. I'd also recommend changing the word "dubbed", as it suggests that the substance was found and named during the events of the game. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• The game plays through a cycle of events; the caravanners set out from their village, travelling to the trees guarding the vessel which gathers the myrrh, exploring dungeons in which the trees reside, then return home to renew their village's protective crystal.[5]:12-13 - Is this really gameplay, or plot? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• Players choose their player character - Rephrase. Either Player Characters are..., or players choose their character... Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• they can access two genders and four body types. - access sounds like a really poor word here. How can you access a gender? Could you not simply say characters can be male or female? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• "Each character's attributes are further customised by choosing the profession of their family" - reword. I'd also like to see an example as how this effects gameplay.
• The main areas are dungeons which follow different environmental themes, such as a forest or abandoned mines - I'd remove "main areas", unless you can source it.
• Progress through these areas relies on navigating the environment and solving puzzles. - What does navigating the environment mean? Surely you do that in every game? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• The elemental affinity of the player's attacks can be changed using special crystals found in dungeons. - remove "Special". Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• Depending on player performance, points are awarded which are used to raise attributes. Artifacts found in dungeons can also be used to raise attributes when equipped to characters - shorten - Both of these sentences say the same thing! Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• Multiplayer also unlocks an exclusive mini-game dubbed "Blaze's Caravans", a racing game played on the GBA - What type of racing game? Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• The type of radar and what it shows is determined by the color the player's Moogle is painted during stays in towns and visits to the Tipa Caravan's hometown - I know what a moogle is... But the casual fan is going to be very confused by this Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
• Overall this section needs cleanup. The last paragraph is pretty good though! Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:22, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
  • @Lee Vilenski: This was way too much to respond to each individually, so I'm doing a post down here. I've done my best to tidy up the section and address your concerns above. I've expanded on the pieces you noted as lacking, trimmed some sentences, removed superfluous info, and merged a few sentences together. As to the cycle of the caravan travelling and returning, that's tied as much to gameplay as story, and after my edits it should be clearer. On a personal note: I've always hated putting gameplay sections together, it's so much faff and not nearly as interesting as the narrative or behind-the-scenes stuff. --ProtoDrake (talk) 15:16, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

That's ok. I'll finish the rest tomorrow and then look back at this. I understand some people don't like putting these sections together. I quite like it, as it's explaining what the game plays like. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:02, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Synopsis

• This whole section is criminaly under wikilinked. There are 5 paragraphs, and zero links. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
• This should really follow WP:VG/MOS. So, Plot should be the stage two header, and Story be used as a header over plot. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Setting and characters

• Crystal Chronicles takes place in an unnamed fantasy world. The world is inhabited by four different races. - Perhaps turn into one sentence.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
• This whole section seems pretty in-universe. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
• Usually, we would overlay more about the setting of the game, and then move into the characters that inhabit this. There seems to be very little on the setting (Other than place names, and that it's nameless)Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
• You mention that crystals run the cities, but the article says nothing about them. We need more information on the setting for it to be important. Otherwise, it's all plot.Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
• In the distant past - Please reword. For a start, this article says nothing about what time the events even take place. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Plot

• One big issue I have with the article as a whole is the use of the word: Caravan. Your dictionary has two meanings for the word, but I believe in this article, it's an in-game term, and means a party of people? (I may be wrong). In this case, I'd be very careful about the wording, and not use offshoots such as "caravanners", instead, "the members of the caravan".Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
• This needs a serious copy-edit. The plot should be the summary of the game as a whole, wheras this seems to be a list of the events in the game. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
• For example, "Hearing of the world's plight and the caravanners' efforts to help their home, the Carbuncles direct them to Mount Vellenge, the source of the Miasma. There they fight the Meteor Parasite to halt the flow of miasma once and for all. When the caravanners are about to strike the final blow, they are pulled into an alternate dimension: there they meet Mio, a girl-shaped being connected to peoples' memories" - This goes between event to event, but seems to have no reason for any of the plot being mentioned. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
• "While both feed on memories to sustain themselves" - This is not a sentence that can just be said, and not explained. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
• As a whole, the plot section is not very well created. I'm usually pretty lenient on plots, as they don't need to be sourced, and they are very POV. However, they usually follow the same process as any story, they lay the initial setting, then what the issues are, and what the resolution is. This one isn't good enough for a GA. I'll take another look if you work on it. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:08, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

• @Lee Vilenski: I've seriously done my best with all this. I've deleted several non-essential elements, generally condensed events, and tried to make it less in-universe in tone. As to your issue with the plot being a series of discrete events, it's nothing I could help; it's actually structured like that regardless of how much it's written. And yes, Raem and Mio only appear at the end with a slightly nonsensical info dump. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:42, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Release

• The game came packaged with a link cable for use in multiplayer - should be explained, or wikilinked to the GBA link cable Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

• It's already linked in gameplay, and I didn't want to double-link in the same article. I've added a truncated description. --ProtoDrake (talk) 12:36, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

• In North America, the game released the following year on February 9.[32] In Europe, the game was released on March 12 of that year,[33] while in Australia it released on March 19.[34] The game was published worldwide by Nintendo.[28][33] - Should at least once say that it's 2004. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

•  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 12:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Reception

• Video game review aggregate site Metacritic gave the game a score of 80 out of 100 based on 55 reviews.[35] - Generally, we wouldn't have review scores if they are already in the table beside it in a GA. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

•  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 12:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

• The art design and music were given praise, but the story was considered lacking by several reviewers compared to other Final Fantasy games. The gameplay received praised for its implementation of multiplayer despite the hardware requirements and its detrimental effect on the single player campaign. - I know you are referring to many reviewers stating this, but it needs to be explained. Otherwise, it seems as though metacritic said this Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

•  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 12:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

• Usually, we would split a reception by topic, rather than by publication as it is here Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

• I chose by publication due to everyone saying virtually the same thing about each aspect with minor variations. Typically other reviewers for my GANs have frowned upon seemingly repeating the same praise or criticism over and over again. --ProtoDrake (talk) 12:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

• Overall, the reception section is actually rather good, outside of the above. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Legacy

• Overall, the legacy section is good. I'm a little confused as to why there is no Crystal Chronicles series article, as there are 6 games in this way. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:12, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

• No-one's created it yet. I'm thinking that might change. It's one of my potential future projects. --ProtoDrake (talk) 12:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Notes & References

• "Shell company for Square (later Square Enix) Product Development Division 2" - Should probably be expanded, could be a bit confusing as to what is being said.
  • Did my best with this. The note may need removing altogether. --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:26, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
• Notes should have references with them for claims made, except for direct translations.
  •  Done --ProtoDrake (talk) 14:26, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

GA Review

• ProtoDrake - I've completed my assessment as above. Please continue to update the article, and I'll give a final update tomorrow. However, if this were to pass, I would recommend that the article meet WP:VG/MOS in terms of headers, and an improvement to the GamePlay section. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:15, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

   I did have to change "Sysnopsis to plot. Theoretically, if the gameplay section was shrunk, this could simply be a sub-section to fit with WP:VG/MOS

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

   The sources are very good for the article

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   I would very much like to see a "Crystal Chronicles" series article, as I feel the final paragraph on the series is a bit lacking information.

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

   No Bias

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

   Y

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   I would like to see some alt text on the images, which would be helpful, but not enough to force an issue.

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Edits 11/1/18

Added a statement on the remaster in the legacy. Thank you for taking the time to read and looking forward to your feedback.

Jgesnard (talk) 04:50, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

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